this hire is like that Eddie Murphy joke

[topcat]

It's a solid hire. LK better hit the recruiting trail because we need an upgrade in talent.

Will he be able to bring any players with him that he was going to sign late?

He needs to cut the fat off the roster and go find some Big12 level players.

 

[oukimber]

that MUST be it. if you didn't get it then there must not have been one. right?

do you have any clue where the basketball skills in the recruiting class are and where the athletes are? and what the difference is? and how this makes a difference as to a coach's style?

there's a lot you're missing here. MAYBE if you took the time to get a clue instead of just opening you piehole for soundchecks then you'd understand a little more of what's going on.

There's one thng I'm not missing. It's that OU is hiring the best BBall coach they could realistically hire, and you are being a whiny little ***** about it.

Wait, that may qualify as two things.

 

[stoops4pres]

He is NOT the guy who can recruit a slew of top-50 athetes and scheme them into winning games. By that same token he's also not the guy who is gonna walk in and take recruits away from Barnes or Self...so you can get that out of your head right now and we're already down to fighting for 2nd or 3rd place at best.

How do you know this for certain?

From what I've heard, he is the only Big 10 coach in history to sign the Illinois POY for 3 straight years. I think that is some pretty solid recruiting.

Besides, the last time OU went to the Final 4, they didn't have a single Top 50 recruit out of high school (maybe Ebi Ere, but that's it).

The dude has won everywhere he's been, including a Final 4, Elite 8's, Sweet 16's... How can you honestly not like this guy? I think you are starving for attention. You let us feed you that, that's for sure.

 

[coolm]

There's one thng I'm not missing. It's that OU is hiring the best BBall coach they could realistically hire, and you are being a whiny little ***** about it.

Wait, that may qualify as two things.

TRANSLATION: Whoops, you're right. But instead of saying that I am gonna try to save face by talking more crap.

How do you know this for certain?

From what I've heard, he is the only Big 10 coach in history to sign the Illinois POY for 3 straight years. I think that is some pretty solid recruiting.

Besides, the last time OU went to the Final 4, they didn't have a single Top 50 recruit out of high school (maybe Ebi Ere, but that's it).

The dude has won everywhere he's been, including a Final 4, Elite 8's, Sweet 16's... How can you honestly not like this guy? I think you are starving for attention. You let us feed you that, that's for sure.

Unless he has changed his ways this has been Kruger's MO every place he has been. It will be interesting to see what he brings to OU recruiting-wise.

I don't know where you get your information but Hollis Price was a top-50 player (around 28 or so with Jarrett Hart 2 spots away). Gilbert was in the 60's, Ebi and Jason and Ace were all Juco's but lauded as JUCO xfers.

 

[sooner8]

Relax cool I am waiting for you to pop a valve!!It's ok to vent,but OU hired a quality coach!!Go Sooners!!!!!!!

 

[Crocker's Long Sleeves]

Who is a better coach then Kruger that we can get coolm?

 

[stoops4pres]

Unless he has changed his ways this has been Kruger's MO every place he has been. It will be interesting to see what he brings to OU recruiting-wise.

So in effect you aren't fond of his MO? Which includes winning wherever he goes? And making runs in the tournament?

Again, I am completely dumbfounded how you can possibly not like this hire. Like I said, you must be starving for attention. That's the only reason I can think of.

I don't know where you get your information but Hollis Price was a top-50 player (around 28 or so with Jarrett Hart 2 spots away). Gilbert was in the 60's, Ebi and Jason and Ace were all Juco's but lauded as JUCO xfers.

Okay then, show me where Hollis was ranked 28th. I find that hard to believe, considering every recruiting service I came across didn't have Hollis at or below 50 (he was just above 50, which like I said, wasn't in the Top 50).

Here is a comprehensive summary of Hollis' class. No ranking had him in the Top 50.

http://www.rscihoops.com/

And I'm fully aware of the juco rankings, but I thought you were talking about Top 50 high school rankings.

But regardless of the minutia, the point stands that you have no solid ground to stand on when it comes to Lon being this "mediocre, C+ hire" that you're purporting it to be. His entire NCAA coaching career contradicts your opinion.

 

[coolm]

But regardless of the minutia, the point stands that you have no solid ground to stand on when it comes to Lon being this "mediocre, C+ hire" that you're purporting it to be. His entire NCAA coaching career contradicts your opinion.

"no solid ground" is your opinion. "mediocre, safe, C+" is mine. Yours has absolutely no relevance to diminishing mine....mainly because you have no clue what my basis is...

...maybe I am an old Atlanta Hawks fan
...maybe I am an Illini fan that hates Mizzou
...maybe I am a KState fan who feels betrayed

or maybe I am an OU fan who was hoping for a little more than a safe, stop-gap hire who will be looking for the rolling hills of retirement in 5 years.

oh, and both hollis and hart were top-50 on Rivals. you can bring up some heresay poll crap until the cows come home and it won't make your statement true.

 

[SoonerLawyer05]

now let your other 3 buddies speak up and the list will be near complete.

Raises hand

 

[eliot]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HptmZa2rYq8&feature=fvwrel[/ame]

 

[SoonerinNC]

I wanted Stevens because I wanted OU to play the way his teams play.

Everyone else had some questions.

Marshall and Grant didn't make the dance, Shaka almost didn't.

Gillespie had his off court issues

Buzz Williams had a pretty so-so season even though he made it to the sweet sixteen.

Evans is pretty inexperienced. He needs to get in front of the line to be one of the OU assistants. Kruger is not known to put in a Sampson or Tubbs like tenure. If Evans has what it takes he would be ready to step up.

I am a little more optimistic than Cool. I agree it is a safe hire but I would give it better than a C+. Stevens would have been an A+.

 

[coolm]

yeah C+ was probably harsh. Little doubt LK can clean things up ... and getting them back on track. That itself is probably worth at least a B.

 

[skyvue]

yeah C+ was probably harsh. Little doubt LK can clean things up ... and getting them back on track. That itself is probably worth at least a B.

Exactly. We hired a (relatively) sure thing, instead of taking a chance again on a long shot.

We could use a little certainty right about now, and Kruger's as close as we can expect to come to that. I'm excited about the hire.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

i say its time for coolm to take a break. tiresome

 

[coolm]

Ahime, che furia!
Ahime, che folla!
Uno alla volta, per carita!
Ehi, coolm! Son qua.
coolm qua, coolm la,
coolm su, coolm giu,

sono il factotum
della citta
della citta

eliot's funny btw. spot on

 

[red recluse]

a lot of people wanted a coach to come in a rebuild the program so it would be an attractive job for someone else to take over in 6-8 years. so this is the perfect hire because you know that's about the time kruger will bolt somewhere else.

 

[stoops4pres]

"no solid ground" is your opinion. "mediocre, safe, C+" is mine. Yours has absolutely no relevance to diminishing mine....

Actually my opinion that you are off-base does hold relevance. His history of winning and turning around programs, along with ringing endorsements from seemingly everyone in basketball, proves just that.

mainly because you have no clue what my basis is...

...maybe I am an old Atlanta Hawks fan
...maybe I am an Illini fan that hates Mizzou
...maybe I am a KState fan who feels betrayed

No rebuttal. Too busy laughing.

oh, and both hollis and hart were top-50 on Rivals. you can bring up some heresay poll crap until the cows come home and it won't make your statement true.

Sorry to break this to you, but Rivals isn't the only recruiting service around.

And at least I showed evidence of other recruiting services (what was it, 5 or 6 different ones?)... Because Rivals doesn't show their rankings prior to 2003, you are relying on Hollis' ranking off memory. Sorry, but you're not important enough for me to take your word for it.

 

[stoops4pres]

a lot of people wanted a coach to come in a rebuild the program so it would be an attractive job for someone else to take over in 6-8 years. so this is the perfect hire because you know that's about the time kruger will bolt somewhere else.

Recluse, do you really think he'll bolt somewhere else? He's already 58... Unless he leaves within the next couple years (don't see that happening), its hard for me to forsee him leaving to take on another gig in his mid-to-late 60's.

 

[coolm]

Stoops ... I am not arguing anymore with you. I made a promise.

Let's say, fer'instance, that Duke needed a head coach next season...or UConn. Do you think LK would be the best bet? think about it.

As for recruiting services. I am just telling you that he was. Sorry I am not important enough for you to believe - that's fine. I know what I know and they were in Rivals top-50 (which was the service we were usually referencing when we gabbed on the old board years ago about it). You can believe whatever you want ... but anything that you put up is hearsay anyway.

 

[stoops4pres]

Let's say, fer'instance, that Duke needed a head coach next season...or UConn. Do you think LK would be the best bet? think about it.

Sorry, but I don't think just because he wouldn't be the choice at a Top 5 job in the country means OU fans should be dissatisfied with the hire. I don't think anyone OU would've gotten would've been the choice in your hypothetical situation.

Simply put, Kruger isn't a home run hire, but OU wasn't going to get a home run hire in the first place. He is about as good as OU was going to get, though (and a coach that has been to a Final 4, Elite 8's, and Sweet 16's with multiple programs is pretty good).

As for recruiting services. I am just telling you that he was. Sorry I am not important enough for you to believe - that's fine. I know what I know and they were in Rivals top-50 (which was the service we were usually referencing when we gabbed on the old board years ago about it). You can believe whatever you want ... but anything that you put up is hearsay anyway.

Okay, that's fine. I'll take your word for it.

Just as long as you know that when a link is shown that supports an opinion showing a player's ranking by 5 different recruiting services (which I did a few posts earlier), that is the exact opposite of "hearsay".