This one's on Kruger

[pnkranger]

Second half substitutions left our starters exhausted. We burned a ton of adrenaline getting up 18 ... because we were hot, he didn't pull anyone after five minutes. Then we let them back in it so quickly, he didn't go to his typical sub patterns. We ended up with our starters in for almost twelve minutes straight with very little if any rest.

Buddy was gassed by the end, as were Thomas and Spangler.

 

[StatGeek]

Second half substitutions left our starters exhausted. We burned a ton of adrenaline getting up 18 ... because we were hot, he didn't pull anyone after five minutes. Then we let them back in it so quickly, he didn't go to his typical sub patterns. We ended up with our starters in for almost twelve minutes straight with very little if any rest.

Buddy was gassed by the end, as were Thomas and Spangler.

I disagree that this loss is in anyway associated with fatigue or conditioning. This team played a solid team in a tough environment and came up short because some experienced players made some poor decisions. I think the players are in a bit of a "feeling out" phase with Thomas added to the rotation. Tough loss, but Im confident that this is going to be a fun season.

 

[pnkranger]

I disagree that this loss is in anyway associated with fatigue or conditioning. This team played a solid team in a tough environment and came up short because some experienced players made some poor decisions. I think the players are in a bit of a "feeling out" phase with Thomas added to the rotation. Tough loss, but Im confident that this is going to be a fun season.

Getting winded while playing 18 of 20 minutes in the second half of a close is not a conditioning issue. It's a coaching issue. No one can play that many minutes without rest at that pace and not lose their legs. I'm not saying Kruger should be fired ... just that he needed to give those guys a rest earlier in the second half.

 

[ousooners1baby]

I agree wholeheartedly. Still have to sub. If you bring back our fresh ones that last pull we would have walked away. I think. However, Woodard provided nothing and Cousins was ineffective also. I thought we, as we did last year, made bad decisions with the ball at important times. And, that last set up inbounds play, wow! Gotta say that was a very akward feeling I had during that play. I was like, really?:facepalm:OUbball-logo:

 

[StatGeek]

Getting winded while playing 18 of 20 minutes in the second half of a close is not a conditioning issue. It's a coaching issue. No one can play that many minutes without rest at that pace and not lose their legs. I'm not saying Kruger should be fired ... just that he needed to give those guys a rest earlier in the second half.

Still disagree, if he had substituted and the game played out the way it did some would say he shouldn't have, of the reasons for the loss I would put this somewhere in the neighborhood of dead last.

 

[bocabull]

Kruger teams have been collapsing in the second half every season he's been at OU. Consistently. There's always been a some different excuse.

In year 4 how about he's just not that good of a gameday coach. There is a mountain of evidence.

 

[TINY]

Fatigue can cause lapses in mental game as much as physical. Team made uncharacteristic mistakes down the stretch when they needed to take care of the ball the most.

Also I have to say that a timeout or 2 before they cut it to single digits might have been a nice way to quiet the crowd and settle the team down.

No one is perfect, not even the Lon

 

[pillmanj]

Kruger teams have been collapsing in the second half every season he's been at OU. Consistently. There's always been a some different excuse.

In year 4 how about he's just not that good of a gameday coach. There is a mountain of evidence.

How was your boy Capel on gameday??

 

[bocabull]

How was your boy Capel on gameday??

The guy who made the second round in his 2nd season and the elite 8 in his 3rd? I don't recall him choking up leads to mid majors. I recall him swinging for the fences and landing some questionable character players who imploded. But on game day. He was way better than Kruger.

Typical homer response. How many double digit leads has Kruger teams blown in the 2nd half over his tenure? 15-20? It's a big number. He gets schooled on adjustments all the time.

 

[Escape Goat]

The guy who made the second round in his 2nd season and the elite 8 in his 3rd? I don't recall him choking up leads to mid majors. I recall him swinging for the fences and landing some questionable character players who imploded. But on game day. He was way better than Kruger.

Typical homer response. How many double digit leads has Kruger teams blown in the 2nd half over his tenure? 15-20? It's a big number. He gets schooled on adjustments all the time.

Dear Lord. Not this again.


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[JBaker]

The guy who made the second round in his 2nd season and the elite 8 in his 3rd? I don't recall him choking up leads to mid majors. I recall him swinging for the fences and landing some questionable character players who imploded. But on game day. He was way better than Kruger.

Typical homer response. How many double digit leads has Kruger teams blown in the 2nd half over his tenure? 15-20? It's a big number. He gets schooled on adjustments all the time.

Dude never had a lead to blow in his last two seasons.

 

[pnkranger]

dude never had a lead to blow in his last two seasons.

zing!!!!

 

[SoonerSpock]

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Second half substitutions left our starters exhausted. We burned a ton of adrenaline getting up 18 ... because we were hot, he didn't pull anyone after five minutes. Then we let them back in it so quickly, he didn't go to his typical sub patterns. We ended up with our starters in for almost twelve minutes straight with very little if any rest.

Buddy was gassed by the end, as were Thomas and Spangler.

There may have been a good reason Lon did not play the bench more than he did. He played four members of the bench for 61 minutes. They scored only 8 points on 2-12 from the field (2 treys and 2 FT's) and had only 6 boards.
Creighton's bench had 19 points and 12 rebounds in 63 minutes.

The starters out scored their starters by 9 points in a similar number of minutes (139 vs 137). OU had 3 starters play more than 31 minutes, Creighton had 3 that played more than 35 minutes.

Jordan also got schooled by Chatman and his quickness (17 pts vs 4, 11 boards vs 4, 6 assist vs 4 and 1 TO vs 4). JW just could not get the Sooners offense to have any flow.

Fortunately we did have 16 assist on 22 made FG's.[/QUOTE]

 

[sdcloud9]

The guy who made the second round in his 2nd season and the elite 8 in his 3rd? I don't recall him choking up leads to mid majors. I recall him swinging for the fences and landing some questionable character players who imploded. But on game day. He was way better than Kruger.

Typical homer response. How many double digit leads has Kruger teams blown in the 2nd half over his tenure? 15-20? It's a big number. He gets schooled on adjustments all the time.

Wow Boca, you are in rare form.

 

[jerry]

Point guard play on both end's of the floor has to get better. We won't go far without it.

 

[BoulderSooner]

The guy who made the second round in his 2nd season and the elite 8 in his 3rd? I don't recall him choking up leads to mid majors. I recall him swinging for the fences and landing some questionable character players who imploded. But on game day. He was way better than Kruger.

Typical homer response. How many double digit leads has Kruger teams blown in the 2nd half over his tenure? 15-20? It's a big number. He gets schooled on adjustments all the time.

The BIG East is NOT a mid major conf ..... get a clue

 

[BoulderSooner]

Point guard play on both end's of the floor has to get better. We won't go far without it.

this is the correct answer ..

 

[scrybe]

this is the correct answer ..

You – and jerry – are right. Our point guard play WAS shaky last night.

However, the loss won't cause my head to explode (like many of our other so-called fans) because I realize that Woodard's play last night was an anomaly. Jordan, more often than not, helps us win rather than lose games with his steady, if not spectacular, play.

You can blame Woodard, Kruger's in-game coaching, fatigue, or whatever else you like. The truth is, we lost a hard-fought game to a tough opponent that is very, very difficult to beat on its home court.

Some of the outlandish statements I've read in this and a few other threads just reinforce my suspicions that OU has some of the least knowledgeable/most spoiled fans in college athletics. Of course, we also have some of the best.

The loss to Creighton will not derail OU's season. If anything, the Sooners will likely use the defeat to motivate themselves and make them a better team going forward.

 

[Chiefdaddy]

Agreed on subbing in the second half. It definitely cost us the open 3's because they were tired. I understand trying to let the team play through it when the crowd got into it but sometimes you just have to kill the momentum. Nothing starts momentum like 3's and dunks.

 

[inoref]

the poor defense cost us the game, they could score at will inside