Tiny investigation update

The article mentions that if Oronde helped Tiny and/or Willie take the money from this guy that the school will be in big trouble.

What do you guys think the odds are of something like that happening?
 
It seems odd to me that Capel would hand out all 13 scholarships, if he knew what was going on. If OU has to give up some scholarships, what happens to the kids that are already here?

Could very well be why Capel went ahead and signed for all 13, if he feels he might lose some in the future.
 
Obviously, we all want to believe Coach Capel knew nothing about this. When Orande first resigned, I put 2+2 together like everyone else did. I spoke with a co-worker and good friend of mine - someone who was the second or third guy off the bench for the South Carolina Gamecocks a few years back. I wanted to get the perspective from a D-1 hoops player. He didn't tell me what I wanted to hear.

He believes it's very difficult for an assistant coach to do what Orande did without the head coach knowing what was going on. I tried asking all the slanted questions that would exonerrate Coach Capel in his mind. He wasn't going for any of it, though. I know it's just one person's opinion, so I was hoping to hear from anyone on this board who played college basketball at a high level what their opinion is on this matter. Is it reasonable for Orande to do what he did without Coach Capel knowing what was going on? I hope my buddy is in the minority of that opinion.
 
Not to be sarcastic but if as a coach you are going to do this WHY leave a trail on a school phone??? How do you get to be a D1 assistant coach with no more common sense than that. That is not to say I approve just scratching my head in disbelief.
 
Not again! We actually get off of probation this weekend from the Sampson phone debacle.
 
Not to be sarcastic but if as a coach you are going to do this WHY leave a trail on a school phone??? How do you get to be a D1 assistant coach with no more common sense than that. That is not to say I approve just scratching my head in disbelief.

You're telling me it doesn't take a JD to become a D-I assistant?
 
Not to be sarcastic but if as a coach you are going to do this WHY leave a trail on a school phone??? How do you get to be a D1 assistant coach with no more common sense than that. That is not to say I approve just scratching my head in disbelief.

It sure seems like drug dealers are smarter than our coaches...maybe they should watch "The Wire" and learn a little about burner phones.
 
You're telling me it doesn't take a JD to become a D-I assistant?

Damnit, that's why I went to law school. I thought it was going to give me a leg up in coaching. Now I need to figure out something else to do. Way to ruin my dream.
 
Are we really to assume that Jeff Capel knew nothing about this?

If OU had already found proof of that, Jeff would have been fired/forced to resign already. And quickly.

You may assume anything you like though. I have a feeling you would like to assume he did.

Who knows, maybe you will be right.
 
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This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. This will for sure result in ANOTHER "Lack of Institutional Control" major violation. I would expect OU to be hit really hard this time. If Capel knew about it, he should be fired/resign. He knew coming in what had occurred under Sampson and that this was "no room for error" situation. Sounds to me like Taliaferro recruited Willie and Tiny by using the benefits that they would be getting from the Merrill Lynch guy. :facepalm

We're probably looking at a post season ban, loss of scholarships, and possibly an out of conference TV ban.
 
This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. This will for sure result in ANOTHER "Lack of Institutional Control" major violation. I would expect OU to be hit really hard this time. If Capel knew about it, he should be fired/resign. He knew coming in what had occurred under Sampson and that this was "no room for error" situation. Sounds to me like Taliaferro recruited Willie and Tiny by using the benefits that they would be getting from the Merrill Lynch guy. :facepalm

We're probably looking at a post season ban, loss of scholarships, and possibly an out of conference TV ban.

Agreed. Even if Jeff didn't know about it and allegations wind up being true, we will probably get hammered. The NCAA has got to be getting sick of calling us into their office.
 
I don't like the way all of this is sounding. At least you should have something to show for the cheating, like a conference crown not a 9 game losing streak.
 
At least it seems that Capel was smart enough to have his assistant do it rather than get caught red handed like Kelvin!

I remember getting killed on this board for saying that EVERY program breaks the rules and that EVERY coach breaks the rules. People were going on and on about how Capel was somehow above all this and would never allow that in his program.
 
Man I am not sure how I feel about this...I big part of me believes that if WW, gallon, and big O were all involved and Capel really had no clue what was going on, then he should be fired for just having his eyes clues...dudes the head coach open up your eyes!!

Maybe thats why we had discipline problems..."oh I didnt know they were out partyin or steeling"..these guys are kids, kids are going to have to be put on a leash
 
Man I am not sure how I feel about this...I big part of me believes that if WW, gallon, and big O were all involved and Capel really had no clue what was going on, then he should be fired for just having his eyes clues...dudes the head coach open up your eyes!!

Maybe thats why we had discipline problems..."oh I didnt know they were out partyin or steeling"..these guys are kids, kids are going to have to be put on a leash

Hard to argue with this
 
Just to look into the future if we are going to loose scholarships that may be why Coach got some many young guys? And as we graduate (hopefully) players we may just have to play with what we have and do without the scholarship for a year or two then bring a bunch more in?
 
At least it seems that Capel was smart enough to have his assistant do it rather than get caught red handed like Kelvin!

You (and a few others) have obviously got it all figured out. If Joe C. was a regular visitor to this board, Capel would already be gone.
 
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