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He was a bad hire from the start. Their old coach went just down the road and Haith had a black cloud over him before he even got started. He's done nothing since arriving to instill any confidence. Tulsa may want to hire a few extra cops.
 
It's not C-USA, it's American Athletic, and they have the National Title school.

Time will tell on Frank.
 
Didn't realize they were in a new conference next year.

Title or not, they still straddle the mid-major/major line. I think Haith can do OK at that level, though. I think he can be a consistent 20+ game winner there, at least (similar to Wojcik, I guess).
 
The delay in an official announcement is making me nervous.

You better not ruin this for me, Tulsa.
 
Realizing some are pipe dreams:

Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Michael White
Archie Miller (mostly because of his wife)

No real info on candidates has come out yet. No, I don't expect Smart to listen. Yes, I do think there's a slim chance we could be a school Marshall listens to (slim as in "so you're saying there's a chance?"). Miller probably won't leave Dayton right now. That leaves White as the most likely candidate from this list.

Mizzou is at a point where we really have to hit with this coach. And we also have record athletic revenue this year, so we should be able to pay a competitive salary with just about anyone. Not sure White is that home run type, though. I do think there's enough money here and the right mix of frustration/passion around the program to stir up the sort of offer that could tempt a lot of good coaches. It's quite a different feeling than when Anderson left.
 
Really can't believe TU is this dumb!?!? This hire moves the needle in the wrong direction for Tulsa fans. So many options out there and this is the garbage they come up with?? No wonder Manning jumped so quickly, he realized he was surrounded by incompetence. I am truly dumbfounded by this.
 
Marshall + Missouri basketball + SEC money + poor basketball conference = Easily the 3rd best program in that conference and a consistent national power


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Marshall + Missouri basketball + SEC money + poor basketball conference = Easily the 3rd best program in that conference and a consistent national power


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Agreed. I hope Marshall sees it the same way. And if not him, Smart.

He's proven he can do just fine at Wichita State. He could stay there, make seven figures every year and wait for one of the elite jobs. Or he could take a job like Missouri (or Tennessee, or a number of other schools) and try to turn them into a power himself. For a guy who I've read has a huge ego, I could see that being appealing.

It's not completely without precedent, either. Donovan took over a Florida program that had accomplished absolutely nothing other than one good year with Kruger (success he didn't sustain there). He quickly turned that program into one of the nation's best.

Probably won't happen, but I'm happy to just consider the possibility instead of facing another year of Haith's ugly basketball.
 
You can forget about Smart. He has passed up multiple better jobs in recent years than Mizzou. He won't even take a second to look at that job.
 
You can forget about Smart. He has passed up multiple better jobs in recent years than Mizzou. He won't even take a second to look at that job.

Chris Peterson passed up a lot of excellent jobs. Now he's the coach at Washington. That's hardly the best offer he's had, but it was the right one for him at the right time.

I don't think he'll come, but I wouldn't avoid asking because it looks to people like you like there's no chance. I assume he has a very specific set of qualities that he'd need to even consider leaving. I assume those qualities aren't only "traditional blue blood." Someone is going to lure him away from VCU eventually, and I don't think it'll take Kentucky or Duke to do it.
 
Chris Peterson passed up a lot of excellent jobs. Now he's the coach at Washington. That's hardly the best offer he's had, but it was the right one for him at the right time.

I don't think he'll come, but I wouldn't avoid asking because it looks to people like you like there's no chance. I assume he has a very specific set of qualities that he'd need to even consider leaving. I assume those qualities aren't only "traditional blue blood." Someone is going to lure him away from VCU eventually, and I don't think it'll take Kentucky or Duke to do it.

Location played a HUGE role for Peterson. And I believe he waited on a kid to graduate, though I'm not positive on that part.

I wouldn't avoid asking either, if I were Mizzou. I just don't see it happening. He seems VERY content for the time being where he is, and turned down at least relatively equal jobs to Mizzou just this year, and better jobs in recent years. Location of Mizzou won't help, not really any advantage to luring Smart, that I can see. Just sayin'.
 
I think Petersen had a son with cancer or something, and the medical options at Boise made it impossible for him to say no. Something like that is always what I heard.

I definitely don't see Smart coming, but I could buy Mizzou being more appealing than Marquette. Marquette has money, but they're in a shell of the Big East. That might not matter much, but if the goal is to step up the competition, Marquette barely does that anymore. It's also in Wisconsin. I know he's from there, but that doesn't mean it's a location that necessarily provides the type of player he tends to recruit. He's mainly recruited guys from the east/southeast. That isn't Missouri's territory, either, but at least in the SEC we have some easier access to that.

Again, not saying it'll happen. But I'd make him say no. Stranger things have happened. Maybe he's a Brad Stevens and will wait on the NBA (unlikely with his style). Maybe he'll wait for Donovan to get bored at UF and take over that job (wouldn't surprise me). Whatever happens, though, there's no way he's staying at VCU for another 20-30 years. He's leaving eventually, and there's no guarantee he can wait there and land an Indiana/UK/UNC job.

He probably has seen how Capel and Grant turned out and is making sure whatever job he takes isn't just a good paycheck but a school he's damn sure he can turn into a consistent winner. Good move on his part.
 
lol at Tulsa is more like it.

Vast majority of Mizzou fans wanted to move on from Haith. He'd done enough that on paper it would look bad to fire him. This gets us a new coach anyway.

Guys don't move from major conferences to C-USA unless they're encouraged to look.

Lets be realistic. Missouri is in a major conference but not exactly a major program. No final fours, no major football wins, nothing to really celebrate except of course your journalism school. So you clowns can write about sports.
 
Well when you put it that way, I think I'm going to just go shoot myself.

I'd allowed myself to forget we didn't have any semifinal appearances or any recent special-by-appointment football game wins. Top 5 finishes, quarterfinals instead of semis, 30-win seasons, not worth living for without that one more win on the schedule.

Hopefully my obit will be well written, though.
 
The MU job has always been pretty simple. Get the best kid in KC and St Louis and then hit Chicago and surrounding areas. For some reason that seems to be a big problem. I'm wondering who they are going to find to take over this mess.
 
Lets be realistic. Missouri is in a major conference but not exactly a major program. No final fours, no major football wins, nothing to really celebrate except of course your journalism school. So you clowns can write about sports.

C'mon Denver, show a hint of objectivity. Throughout most of the Norm Stewart era, Missouri really was a national power. They weren't recognized as such because of all their NCAA Tournament failures...something an OU fan should certainly be able to relate to. All Missouri did during that era was win more Big 8 titles than ANY other school in that conference. Yes, they've been a middle-of-the-pack program since the start of the Big XII, but let's not act like they never won anything.

Missouri is certainly a good job and a top 5 basketball job in the SEC. They should be able to hire a solid candidate.
 
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