We really need TMG to take a stand and stay C&C

coolm

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we need that kid.

Tommy, suck it up and come back.
 
ok, i've been out of the loop a lot lately. but is there seriously talk about TMG NOT coming back?! i've seen it briefly mentioned in passing on a couple other posts.

where's he going; pro's, transfer, Europe, home?! i havent the slightest clue. did he and Capel have disagreements or does he not want to be a part of the program?
 
ok, i've been out of the loop a lot lately. but is there seriously talk about TMG NOT coming back?! i've seen it briefly mentioned in passing on a couple other posts.

where's he going; pro's, transfer, Europe, home?! i havent the slightest clue. did he and Capel have disagreements or does he not want to be a part of the program?

It mainly just speculation but Jeff was on with James Hale today and during the interview James asked if he was excited about the future of the program and the players that will be returning and Jeff didn't mention TMG at all during the entire interview which could mean something is up or there is noting at all.
 
It mainly just speculation but Jeff was on with James Hale today and during the interview James asked if he was excited about the future of the program and the players that will be returning and Jeff didn't mention TMG at all during the entire interview which could mean something is up or there is noting at all.

I really wish that James had asked him specifically about TMG. Seems like the natural thing to do after Coach failed to mention him....
 
I really wish that James had asked him specifically about TMG. Seems like the natural thing to do after Coach failed to mention him....

Yeah I was surprised that James didn't follow through with that question. I am sure it will be brought up tomorrow on his show or it might be a topic on KREF all day long so who knows.
 
maybe someone can call into his show and ask tomorrow? No doubt it was discussed off mic.
 
seriously where is TMG going to go play ? Not in the NBA next year.
 
I would be completely shocked if TMG is not a Sooner next year, take that for what its worth.
 
might be a motivational tool that Capel is trying to send. One thing that must happen is TMG must buy into the job and philosophy of a point guard. This is where it hurts to not have a Senior pg like AJ mentoring a guy like TMG. Getting defenders into place, fighting through screens and roating, making sure the ball is fed to the post, keeping the ball moving and driving and collapsing the defense are the roles of a pg. TMG has to buy into this philosophy. It's not always about shooting off of the high screen.

The kid has great skills. I have rarely saw any pg that can drive towards the baseline from the top of the key to the side baseline and fade away for 15ft jumpers so prolifically. However, that skill has to be met with a higher basketball IQ, vocal leadership, and more desire throughout the game.
 
Based on what I've read and been sent I'm going to be surprised if he comes back. Apparently a few national guys have stated they think he's gone. This program is imploding.
 
Based on what I've read and been sent I'm going to be surprised if he comes back. Apparently a few national guys have stated they think he's gone. This program is imploding.

"a few national guys"

Have any links?
 
might be a motivational tool that Capel is trying to send. One thing that must happen is TMG must buy into the job and philosophy of a point guard. This is where it hurts to not have a Senior pg like AJ mentoring a guy like TMG. Getting defenders into place, fighting through screens and roating, making sure the ball is fed to the post, keeping the ball moving and driving and collapsing the defense are the roles of a pg. TMG has to buy into this philosophy. It's not always about shooting off of the high screen.

The kid has great skills. I have rarely saw any pg that can drive towards the baseline from the top of the key to the side baseline and fade away for 15ft jumpers so prolifically. However, that skill has to be met with a higher basketball IQ, vocal leadership, and more desire throughout the game.

I agree DM...
 
jus my opinion from a distance: i think ou and capel might be a lot better off with warren returning and tmg leaving then the reverse.
 
"a few national guys"

Have any links?

I'd like to see those links as well.

Also, I rarely disagree with coolm, but I'm content to let the chips fall where they may regarding TMG [and WWIII]. Without knowing anything about the overall situation, if a player does not want to be here, it does the team no good for him to stay...to be clear, I do not know if that applies to TMG or not, and I don't want anyone to take this post as a "we don't need him" type deal.

To me, we could recruit an entirely new roster of JUCO and HS kids and have a season comperable to what we had last season, I am just hoping that the growing pains we put up with last season pay off in the future.
 
I'd like to see those links as well.

Also, I rarely disagree with coolm, but I'm content to let the chips fall where they may regarding TMG [and WWIII]. Without knowing anything about the overall situation, if a player does not want to be here, it does the team no good for him to stay...to be clear, I do not know if that applies to TMG or not, and I don't want anyone to take this post as a "we don't need him" type deal.

To me, we could recruit an entirely new roster of JUCO and HS kids and have a season comperable to what we had last season, I am just hoping that the growing pains we put up with last season pay off in the future.

A Scout guru named Evan Daniels said "If TMG is back at Oklahoma, I'll be quite surprised" on the Phog.net premium board. That's the only "national type guy" I've heard say it.
 
A Scout guru named Evan Daniels said "If TMG is back at Oklahoma, I'll be quite surprised" on the Phog.net premium board. That's the only "national type guy" I've heard say it.


If so, that is too bad...but if he is even waivering on his desire to be here it is a strange deal. Is there bad blood between WW and TMG? Maybe he is waiting to see what WW does?
 
I'd like to see those links as well.

Also, I rarely disagree with coolm, but I'm content to let the chips fall where they may regarding TMG [and WWIII]. Without knowing anything about the overall situation, if a player does not want to be here, it does the team no good for him to stay...to be clear, I do not know if that applies to TMG or not, and I don't want anyone to take this post as a "we don't need him" type deal.

To me, we could recruit an entirely new roster of JUCO and HS kids and have a season comperable to what we had last season, I am just hoping that the growing pains we put up with last season pay off in the future.


Absolutely agree, but I think what Coolm meant by 'suck it up' is that he needs to maybe have an attitude adjustment in regards to the work that needs to be done and buy in to the team concept. If that can be done, we NEED TMG BACK. If not, then we don't.
 
Absolutely agree, but I think what Coolm meant by 'suck it up' is that he needs to maybe have an attitude adjustment in regards to the work that needs to be done and buy in to the team concept. If that can be done, we NEED TMG BACK. If not, then we don't.

Agree 100%, I don't want to be the school where he got his growing pains out of the way, only to end up being a heck of a D-1 PG [see Drew Lavender].
 
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