Weekly Polls Thread - Week 19 *polls pending

[BoulderSooner]

On3 does as well

College Basketball Rankings: Predicting the AP Poll Top 25 as losses pile up

The week brought plenty of interesting results across college basketball including double-digit losses from Top 25 teams.

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[BoulderSooner]

WEEK 15 POLLS
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[TH]SOS[/TH]
[TH]RPI[/TH]
[TH]NET[/TH]
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[TD]UH[/TD]

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3​

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3​

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1​

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1​

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3​

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29​

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2​

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1​

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[TD]KU[/TD]

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6​

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7​

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14​

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15​

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18​

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8​

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12​

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[TD]ISU[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]

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10​

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9​

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6​

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10​

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44​

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22​

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9​

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[TD]BU[/TD]

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12​

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13​

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15​

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16​

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13​

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13​

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24​

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13​

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[TD]BYU[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]

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12​

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14​

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28​

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60​

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39​

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8​

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[TD]OU[/TD]

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21​

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24​

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30​

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19​

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46​

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30​

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[TD]TT[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]

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25​

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[TD]TCU[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]

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[TD]UT[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]

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33​

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[TD]CIN[/TD]
[TD]NR[/TD]

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32​

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49​

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[TD]

58​

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[TD]

34​

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[TD]UCF[/TD]
[TD]NR[/TD]

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NR​

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65​

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58​

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[TD]

81​

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[TD]

58​

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[TD]

88​

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[TD]

66​

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[TD]KSU[/TD]
[TD]NR[/TD]

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NR​

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68​

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56​

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50​

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24​

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82​

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77​

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[TD]osu[/TD]
[TD]NR[/TD]

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118​

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119​

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157​

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46​

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191​

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[TD]

135​

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[TD]WVU[/TD]
[TD]NR[/TD]

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NR​

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140​

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151​

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151​

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19​

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175​

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154​

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*now using team rankings rpi as CBS sports rpi page is gone ..

 

[StoopsBros]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1757109369756336352

 

[TINY]

I’m curious how many times we have been ranked top 25 post-valentines day in the past 20 years or so. Off the top of my head I think there were 2 years w BG, 1 w Trae, and 2 w Buddy.

I am setting the o/u at 1.5 for all other seasons (not including this year). The date is somewhat arbitrary but the regular season is almost over.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I’m curious how many times we have been ranked top 25 post-valentines day in the past 20 years or so. Off the top of my head I think there were 2 years w BG, 1 w Trae, and 2 w Buddy.

I am setting the o/u at 1.5 for all other seasons (not including this year). The date is somewhat arbitrary but the regular season is almost over.

Five of Lon's 10 years, one year under Capel, and each of Kelvin's final two seasons.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I’m curious how many times we have been ranked top 25 post-valentines day in the past 20 years or so. Off the top of my head I think there were 2 years w BG, 1 w Trae, and 2 w Buddy.

I am setting the o/u at 1.5 for all other seasons (not including this year). The date is somewhat arbitrary but the regular season is almost over.

2021 9th on feb 15th 7th on feb 22nd 16th on Mar1 25 on Mar 8th
2018 Feb 18th 23rd
2016 3rd-7th feb 15th-Mar 14th
2015 17-13 feb 16th -Mar 16th
2014 RV -23-17-21 from Feb 17th to March 17th
2009 2-7 Feb 16th - March 16
2006 22nd - 24th Feb 20 - Mar 13
2005 22-17 Feb 21- Mar 14


this is the AP poll

edited

 

[WichitaSooner]

2021 9th on feb 15th 7th on feb 22nd 16th on Mar1 25 on Mar 8th
2016 3rd-7th feb 15th-Mar 14th
2015 17-13 feb 16th -Mar 16th
2014 RV -23-17-21 from Feb 17th to March 17th
2009 2-7 Feb 16th - March 16
2006 22nd - 24th Feb 20 - Mar 13
2005 22-17 Feb 21- Mar 14


this is the AP poll

Also ranked this exact week in 2017 (2/12-2/18).

 

[skyvue]

I’m curious how many times we have been ranked top 25 post-valentines day in the past 20 years or so. Off the top of my head I think there were 2 years w BG, 1 w Trae, and 2 w Buddy.

I am setting the o/u at 1.5 for all other seasons (not including this year). The date is somewhat arbitrary but the regular season is almost over.

Things have not been nearly so dire as you thought. Since the year 2000, we've been ranked after Valentine's Day 12 times:

2000
2001
2002
2003
2005
2006
2009
2014
2015
2016
2018
2021

My list came from soonerstats.com--not sure which poll is used there.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Also ranked this exact week in 2017 (2/12-2/18).

thanks missed that one edited my op

 

[Hecubus]

0-1-2-3-_-5-6-_-_-9-_-_-_-_-14-15-16-_-18-_-_-21-_-_-24 … its the spaces that sting lol. Ranked every 3 years hopefully ends this year and starts another string of good times.

 

[TINY]

Things have not been nearly so dire as you thought. Since the year 2000, we've been ranked after Valentine's Day 12 times:

2000
2001
2002
2003
2005
2006
2009
2014
2015
2016
2018
2021

My list came from soonerstats.com--not sure which poll is used there.

Removing Sampson and Trae, bg, buddy then it is a total of 2. That is about what I thought hence the o/u of 1.5

 

[BoulderSooner]

0-1-2-3-_-5-6-_-_-9-_-_-_-_-14-15-16-_-18-_-_-21-_-_-24 … its the spaces that sting lol. Ranked every 3 years hopefully ends this year and starts another string of good times.

I will also add that ranked is not the end all be all ..

08 for instance OU was a 6 seed and was pretty much always relevant .. and was not ranked all year long

 

[TINY]

I will also add that ranked is not the end all be all ..

08 for instance OU was a 6 seed and was pretty much always relevant .. and was not ranked all year long

Wild that team wasn’t ranked.

 

[TINY]

Five of Lon's 10 years, one year under Capel, and each of Kelvin's final two seasons.

Similar to Moser, it wasn’t until Lon’s 3rd season that they were ranked.

 

[Sooner04]

I will also add that ranked is not the end all be all ..

08 for instance OU was a 6 seed and was pretty much always relevant .. and was not ranked all year long

Correct! And 06 was almost the opposite: around the top ten all year but was less than the sum of its parts. Rewarded with a 6-seed and got smoked with the remainder of Bruce Pearl's Milwaukee work.

I'm in the minority; I don't care much about the rankings. But I've been in enough arguments around here over the years to know that it matters A LOT to a big chunk of our posters.

 

[skyvue]

Removing Sampson and Trae, bg, buddy then it is a total of 2. That is about what I thought hence the o/u of 1.5

OK. It's a strange result you were seeking, though. Plenty of strong programs would look less so if you ignored the results they achieved with three of their best players (who didn't play together) and tossed out the success of their best coach over that span.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Correct! And 06 was almost the opposite: around the top ten all year but was less than the sum of its parts. Rewarded with a 6-seed and got smoked with the remainder of Bruce Pearl's Milwaukee work.

I'm in the minority; I don't care much about the rankings. But I've been in enough arguments around here over the years to know that it matters A LOT to a big chunk of our posters.

it also mattered a ton back in the day because top 25 meant you were on SportsCenter highlights .... that is way less of a deal now .. with streaming and social media

 

[skyvue]

Correct! And 06 was almost the opposite: around the top ten all year but was less than the sum of its parts. Rewarded with a 6-seed and got smoked with the remainder of Bruce Pearl's Milwaukee work.

I'm in the minority; I don't care much about the rankings. But I've been in enough arguments around here over the years to know that it matters A LOT to a big chunk of our posters.

I care about them mostly because of the status and cachet that accompanies being ranked. It impacts the coverage you receive in the media and can also have an effect on how you're perceived by recruits. Every little bit helps. It means something that we were in the top 25 in the all-time AP ranking. It's something to brag about to, to impress recruits and the media.

 

[TINY]

OK. It's a strange result you were seeking, though. Plenty of strong programs would look less so if you ignored the results they achieved with three of their best players (who didn't play together) and tossed out the success of their best coach over that span.

More just curious than “seeking some strange result”.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I will also add that ranked is not the end all be all ..

08 for instance OU was a 6 seed and was pretty much always relevant .. and was not ranked all year long

That team's issue was that they got smoked in most their games against good teams. And losing to SFA early probably cost them a spot in the polls at some point.