What a soft team

[Big Old Booger]

That's some serious revisionist history right there. Oklahoma really didn't lose any games that weren't possible losses no matter the coach; Maybe Texas and Arkiesaw on the road could have flipped to Ws but we were really the third or fourth #2 seed that season (#7/8 overall in the bigger scheme). There is no way were were going to leap over Pitt, UNC, Louisville, or UConn for a #1 with the seasons they had; Probably doubtful the committee would have bumped us over Memphis or Duke either. The only difference in match ups might have been the difference between UNC and Pitt and going through Pitts bracket would have had the tougher road to get to them.

Weren't we ranked #2 when we lost to Texas and Blake got the concussion?

If Blake plays we win that game and we beat KU at home 2 days later. Then we probably don't end up with the OSU matchup in the 2nd round (1st game for us) in the Big 12 tourney. Under that scenario, we probably win our first round conference game (osu was the worst possible matchup for us; we had just played OSU a few days before and we swept them that year).

We are most definitely a 1 seed if Blake doesn't get the concussion.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Guess what, your boy Capel lost at home to Stephen F Austin with a team that had Blake Griffin and most of those examples are games that were home last year and road this year. If you think that doesn't make a difference than you know absolutely nothing about sports.

I don't always agree with bgrch, but he has a great point.
I think everyone can agree that we have a more talented roster this year. Its pretty much the same team as last year with some additional talent.

It's still early in the season but I'm not sure we are playing better right now than we were this time last year. We are playing better defensively but the offense is horrendous

 

[Big Old Booger]

Thats just Naive. We lost to the NCAA champions. And we should have been a 1 seed but they wanted to see a Griffin/Hansbrough matchup...and they got it.

I don't buy this. The selection committee and all college basketball fans would have preferred a BG vs UNC matchup in the final 4 or final game. If we get the 1 seed, that is probably where the matchup occurs.

 

[152219]

Doubtful. UNC dominated us (especially Hansboro) and won the national title. I don't think it mattered who was coaching against UNC that afternoon. We had Blake, they had 'Hans' and then the next three or four best players on the court. Capel, even with all his deficiencies during his tenure at OU probably took as far as any coach could have given the match ups that tournament.

Hansbrough dominated OU in the Elite 8? What game were you watching?

Johnson and Crocker were garbage in that Elite 8 game. Crocker was on fire against Cuse and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn against UNC.

Combined, Johnson and Crocker went combined 3-13 from the floor, 0-7 from 3 point range, ended up with 6 points, 4 assists, and 3 turnovers and Lawson lit up the Sooners.

 

[152219]

Thats just Naive. We lost to the NCAA champions. And we should have been a 1 seed but they wanted to see a Griffin/Hansbrough matchup...and they got it.

OU didn't get the 1 seed because of their losses to Texas and KU (and partially the loss to Okie State). If OU takes the first two games which Griffin missed, they are likely a 1 seed. The loss solidified that OU was going to be a 2 seed even in the committee took Griffin's injury into consideration.

 

[suncoastsooner]

Weren't we ranked #2 when we lost to Texas and Blake got the concussion?

If Blake plays we win that game and we beat KU at home 2 days later. Then we probably don't end up with the OSU matchup in the 2nd round (1st game for us) in the Big 12 tourney. Under that scenario, we probably win our first round conference game (osu was the worst possible matchup for us; we had just played OSU a few days before and we swept them that year).

We are most definitely a 1 seed if Blake doesn't get the concussion.

Completely disagree with you. Pitt only had four losses that season and that was the most of any #1 seed in that tournament. All four of the #1 seeds had much better RPI's than Oklahoma as well. Oklahoma could have won the Texas and Kansas game and it only would have meant the difference between which #2 seed we received and really would have only left us in a more difficult bracket to reach the Elite 8 since we almost certainly had the easiest road to reach that far of any of the #2 seeds in the tourney. You are completely revising the history of that season overall on the landscape of college basketball not just Oklahoma basketball.

 

[suncoastsooner]

Hansbrough dominated OU in the Elite 8? What game were you watching?

Johnson and Crocker were garbage in that Elite 8 game. Crocker was on fire against Cuse and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn against UNC.

Combined, Johnson and Crocker went combined 3-13 from the floor, 0-7 from 3 point range, ended up with 6 points, 4 assists, and 3 turnovers and Lawson lit up the Sooners.

Hansboro didn't go nuts on the scoreboard but the entire offense ran through him and he nailed the shot everytime he was at the line. Lawson and Green only had the games they had that day (like many other they had that season) because the offensive focal point was Hansboro.

Johnson, Crocker, and Taylor for that matter were shut down because they were out talented; plain and simple.

 

[bgrch1350]

We wouldn't have been a one seed. Pitt, UConn, UNC, and Louisville had those easily on lock before the brackets were ever released. The question was which 2 seed we were going to receive and while UNC was probably the most difficult Elite 8 match up we could have drawn it was also probably also the easiest to get there of all the brackets for both Oklahoma and UNC.

I'll buy that. WE all knew who the best team was and that was UNC so that makes us Number 8? We got screwed no matter what. We should not have been in UNC's bracket.

 

[152219]

Hansboro didn't go nuts on the scoreboard but the entire offense ran through him and he nailed the shot everytime he was at the line. Lawson and Green only had the games they had that day (like many other they had that season) because the offensive focal point was Hansboro.

Johnson, Crocker, and Taylor for that matter were shut down because they were out talented; plain and simple.

Hansbrough scored 8 points, grabbed 6 rebounds, had 3 assists, and 2 turnovers (I don't need to post Griffin's numbers because they are silly compared to Hansbrough). Lawson controlled that game from the start. Again, what game were you watching?

 

[suncoastsooner]

Hansbrough scored 8 points, grabbed 6 rebounds, had 3 assists, and 2 turnovers (I don't need to post Griffin's numbers because they are silly compared to Hansbrough). Lawson controlled that game from the start. Again, what game were you watching?

Griffen and Willie Warren were absolutely the only two players who produced anything that entire game for Oklahoma if they hadn't we would have likely lost by 20+ instead of only an ugly 12!!!

 

[152219]

Completely disagree with you. Pitt only had four losses that season and that was the most of any #1 seed in that tournament. All four of the #1 seeds had much better RPI's than Oklahoma as well. Oklahoma could have won the Texas and Kansas game and it only would have meant the difference between which #2 seed we received and really would have only left us in a more difficult bracket to reach the Elite 8 since we almost certainly had the easiest road to reach that far of any of the #2 seeds in the tourney. You are completely revising the history of that season overall on the landscape of college basketball not just Oklahoma basketball.

OU's RPI was #5 going into the NCAA tourney and was 0.004 below Louisville's.

RPI after the conference tourneys

1. Duke .6677
2. Pitt .6670
3. UNC .6531
4. Louisville .6463
5. OU .6459

 

[152219]

Griffen and Willie Warren were absolutely the only two players who produced anything that entire game for Oklahoma if they hadn't we would have likely lost by 20+ instead of only an ugly 12!!!

LOL, I know this, but that has NOTHING to do with what you posted about Hansbrough dominating the game.

And you are also wrong about the RPI

 

[suncoastsooner]

LOL, I know this, but that has NOTHING to do with what you posted about Hansbrough dominating the game.

And you are also wrong about the RPI

The entire offense ran through Hans. He was what opened Lawson and Green up.

 

[suncoastsooner]

OU's RPI was #5 going into the NCAA tourney and was 0.004 below Louisville's.

RPI after the conference tourneys

1. Duke .6677
2. Pitt .6670
3. UNC .6531
4. Louisville .6463
5. OU .6459

For some reason I recalled a larger gap. I thought Memphis and Duke had higher RPI's as well to be honest.

 

[152219]

The entire offense ran through Hans. He was what opened Lawson and Green up.

Not in that game. Lawson controlled the game the entire time. OU wasn't throwing exotic double teams at Hansbrough. Lawson won that game for them

 

[152219]

For some reason I recalled a larger gap. I thought Memphis and Duke had higher RPI's as well to be honest.

Your recollection has been off the entire time about that season except that UNC had the more talented team.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Not in that game. Lawson controlled the game the entire time. OU wasn't throwing exotic double teams at Hansbrough. Lawson won that game for them

yeah i remember hansborough not really having that great of a game. Didn't he stuff himself on the rim trying to dunk it too? lol

 

[suncoastsooner]

Not in that game. Lawson controlled the game the entire time. OU wasn't throwing exotic double teams at Hansbrough. Lawson won that game for them

Dude they kicked inside outside on us all game.

 

[DenverSooner]

Completely disagree with you. Pitt only had four losses that season and that was the most of any #1 seed in that tournament. All four of the #1 seeds had much better RPI's than Oklahoma as well. Oklahoma could have won the Texas and Kansas game and it only would have meant the difference between which #2 seed we received and really would have only left us in a more difficult bracket to reach the Elite 8 since we almost certainly had the easiest road to reach that far of any of the #2 seeds in the tourney. You are completely revising the history of that season overall on the landscape of college basketball not just Oklahoma basketball.

If OU had beaten Texas and Kansas as well as not lost to OSU wouldn't they have had only 2 or 3 losses (2 if they won the Big XII Tournament)? OU finsished the season 30-6. That means they had five losses prior to the NCAA Tournament. I don't know if OU gets the number one seed but I think it would have been close.

 

[Big Old Booger]

If OU had beaten Texas and Kansas as well as not lost to OSU wouldn't they have had only 2 or 3 losses (2 if they won the Big XII Tournament)? OU finsished the season 30-6. That means they had five losses prior to the NCAA Tournament. I don't know if OU gets the number one seed but I think it would have been close.

Yes. This is correct. We lost to Arkansas and that was our only loss until Blake's concussion. Then we lost 4 of our next 6 before the NCAA tournament started. We wudnhave easily been a 2 seed. Suncoastsooner is the one with revisionist history in this thread.