Maybe the success of women's gymnastics and softball has made the athletic department complacent about WBB. But since WBB is the marquee sport, I would think it would be the opposite, make Joe C. expect much more from Sherri.
Why Can't Sherri Win on the level of Patty?
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You make some valid points, Atlanta.
Everyone was disappointed to have our two recruits from last year transfer, and even if there were extremely valid reasons - it has to hurt us quite a bit.
It appeared to me we were not committed to playing a game that would utilize Nancy effectively - and my suspicion is she saw that and decoded to leave.
The truth is we cannot win at the level we want with VIvi as our main inside player. We will beat average teams - but cannot consistently defeat the best teams with that style of inside play. She is simply too short - and too slow to be a dominant center. Not her fault, but still true.
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How do you know this? Share your info and thoughts. What has really happened the last two weeks?
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Sybarite was the main reason for both young ladies to leave OU
If you paid for it, you would know, at least most of it.
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You mean the information you got from James Hale on the OUInsider. Best I recollect you have been demeaning Hale for years because he is not knowledgeable regarding OU WBB. Not you are confirming him as "the source".
Seems you are a little inconsistent to me. I concur know one knows for certain why either Dungee and Mulkey left. Everything is pure speculation unless there are open statements made by both players available to the public stating their reasons.
Likewise there being gone is water under the bridge and the only thing that should concern the OU fans is what is Sherri going to do to turn things around, improve both the quantity and quality of players on the roster and field a team that can annually compete on a serious basis for both conference and national basis. Nothing else really matter.
It would appear that it may take her 3 years to turn the corner and get the program where it needs to be. During the interim we need to be patient with Sherri. However if 5 years down the road Sherri has not fixed the problem it is time for her to go.
Seems you are a little inconsistent to me. I concur know one knows for certain why either Dungee and Mulkey left. Everything is pure speculation unless there are open statements made by both players available to the public stating their reasons.
Likewise there being gone is water under the bridge and the only thing that should concern the OU fans is what is Sherri going to do to turn things around, improve both the quantity and quality of players on the roster and field a team that can annually compete on a serious basis for both conference and national basis. Nothing else really matter.
It would appear that it may take her 3 years to turn the corner and get the program where it needs to be. During the interim we need to be patient with Sherri. However if 5 years down the road Sherri has not fixed the problem it is time for her to go.
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At the caravan in Tulsa when asked the transfers, Sherri responded that she has to do a better job evaluating prospects willingness to commit to the program.
interpret that however you want.
Whether the locus of blame lies with Sherri or Mulkey/Dungee or somewhere in the middle which is usually the case.
The problem lies in not recruiting enough stars to absorb this transfer gut punch.
And the prospect of a big class coming up which is not a Sherri strength. She ends up signing a bench full of role players.
interpret that however you want.
Whether the locus of blame lies with Sherri or Mulkey/Dungee or somewhere in the middle which is usually the case.
The problem lies in not recruiting enough stars to absorb this transfer gut punch.
And the prospect of a big class coming up which is not a Sherri strength. She ends up signing a bench full of role players.
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Spoiled most definitely but you need to visit Tuscaloosa, AL. if you want to see spoiled fans with expectations in all sports. They are far from being as successful as the Sooners in multiple sports but have recent national championships in women's gymnastics, men's golf, women's golf, softball in addition to football with unrealistic expectations in all.
At least there is some historical basis for WBB expectations and fan dissatisfaction with no conference championships since 2009.
i doubt you will find a harder working coach than Sherri, but she isnt a good recruiter, doesnt particularly like it, and is committed to her staff rather than to building the team. A better ambassador you cannot find nor a more personable representative.
It is unfortunate that Sherri has a tendency to tell the truth. I doubt there is a coach (other than Switzer) who likes or liked recruiting. It is a disgusting part of coaching. She admitted it openly. Now, it has become the label for some. Don't forget that she recruited Courtney, Ashley, Amanda, Danielle, Abi, Whitney, and, yes, Whaley.
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If you need a reminder of what Sherri is all about, and I think many of you have forgotten it for whatever reason, check out the re-run of "'Neath a Western Sky" tonight on FSN-OK at 7 p.m. Then many of you should hang your heads in shame afterward.
And, you can take note of the praise given to Sherri by none other than Patty Gasso. I didn't notice anyone holding a gun to her head to make her say it, either.
And, you can take note of the praise given to Sherri by none other than Patty Gasso. I didn't notice anyone holding a gun to her head to make her say it, either.
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The question that comes up for me while reading this thread is, why can't some of our fans, just for a few days, simply enjoy the great run our softball team is on rather than focusing on the negative, i.e. the perceived limitations of the basketball team?
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I agree the focus should be on the softball team's level of play.
I just think the inevitable comparisons between Gasso and Coale are there because
they both had career highs in early on 2000/2001. I mean I honestly believe with zero
hesitation if not for an all time UCONN team that Stacey Dales wins the title.
They both established an OU brand in their respective sports. Hired around the same time.
Quickly built Big 12 champs/NCAA title contenders.
They both "struggled" in the 2004 to 2012 timeframe to reach that level again. Sherri
having much more success with back to back final four trips.
But since 2012 their paths have diverged greatly.
Patty is close to dynasty mode.
I just think the inevitable comparisons between Gasso and Coale are there because
they both had career highs in early on 2000/2001. I mean I honestly believe with zero
hesitation if not for an all time UCONN team that Stacey Dales wins the title.
They both established an OU brand in their respective sports. Hired around the same time.
Quickly built Big 12 champs/NCAA title contenders.
They both "struggled" in the 2004 to 2012 timeframe to reach that level again. Sherri
having much more success with back to back final four trips.
But since 2012 their paths have diverged greatly.
Patty is close to dynasty mode.
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While Coale is close to "has-been" mode.
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Very close.
I just don't get why people thought so much of Nancy. She was fair on defense and could block some shots, but she had zero offensive game, and didn't look like she would be able to play down low. I read that she did not want to play post in high school, so that seems to tell the story for me. Players don't tell the coach where or how they will play. Give me an undersized post player with lots of want to every time.
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I agree with you about the Stacey Dales team. OU had the best team in the country that season not named UCONN. I want to add one thing. Stacey had plenty of help. Two players from right here in Ada, LaNeisha Caufield and Caton Hill, had a lot to do with that team's success.
There were others, of course (the late Rosalind Ross among them). Three of the four, Dales, Caufield and Ross were high draft picks after their senior season. Hill was a sophomore. I point all of that out to say this. Another Ada product, Bo Overton, was on Sherri's staff back then. If you'll check OU's roster during the Overton years, I think you'll find that recruiting has been on a slow but steady decline since Bo left. Oh, there have been a few high profile recruits since then, just not enough to allow OU to compete for a conference title these days, much less for a national championship.
That brings me back to what I said earlier about SC's assistants. While I appreciate, even admire, her loyalty to members of her staff, she may not have any choice but to face reality before long...that is, unless she she is so comfortable in her position she is willing to accept mediocrity. I threw that part out tongue in cheek, because the Sherri Coale I have watched over the years is far too competitive to be satisfied with mediocrity. But, if she wants to compete with the likes of Baylor and Texas (never mind national powers like UCONN, Stanford, Notre Dame, etc.), she may have to hire better assistants to bring in better players.
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