Worst offense and coaching...

[sybarite]

Not good when a player thinks she is needed/wanted, is ready to commit and the rug is jerked from under her feet.

Unfortunately this is not a infrequent occurrence.

Other than rumor, can you substantiate that?

You also did not answer a rather key part of the questions. Would OU have achieved the level of success had we not had Sherri? What do you think we would have to do to be able to replace her with someone better? Justify.

 

[SoonerSpock]

Other than rumor, can you substantiate that?

You also did not answer a rather key part of the questions. Would OU have achieved the level of success had we not had Sherri? What do you think we would have to do to be able to replace her with someone better? Justify.

Obviously reading comprehension is still one of your shortcomings. I did answer questions about Sherri performance in my post (I concur with everything you say about Sherri's past). Also I explained in my post that I would not/cannot quote the source (cannot quote them and keep them) and continue to get information from that source. But I can guarantee you it does come from inside the program.

It matters not to me what you believe. It is obvious to me and many others here that crimson colored glasses prohibit you from see the facts and truths and we accept you are who you are. Like three conference championship in the last eighteen and likely the last twenty while our chief rival was winning eleven maybe even thirteen. We are not competitive and facts confirm it.

 

[sybarite]

I.e, rumor.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Did you watch the game?

Did anybody actually watch the game here and also watch prior games??

First of all, it was one game... Lets let that sink in.
I thought it was very apparent that we played completely out of character but maybe, I missed something? lol Were not a team that is going to shoot 25 percent and turn the ball over 25 times- and they aren't a team with 6 girls that shoot the three. It was a fluke. They literally missed 16 shots in a row coming into that game.... Give them credit- they played hard. But theres a good chance we will do the same thing to them when they come to our home court.

Vinny, stop with the firing nonsense. Its not gonna happen. She is an active HOF coach who has a team that was just ranked 14th w one 1 senior- and they will finish right around there as well. She literally took Oklahoma Women's basketball from the gutter and made it relevant, she's not going anywhere.

No, this is a team that is going to normally shoot about 35 percent from the field and about 25
percent from behind the arc.


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[Sooners4Life0101]

No, this is a team that is going to normally shoot about 35 percent from the field and about 25
percent from behind the arc.


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Question: Do you think that we will continue to shoot those percentages

Your Answer: ?

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

It matters not what you believe. Like two conference championship in the last eighteen and likely the last twenty while our chief rival was winning eleven maybe even thirteen. We are not competitive and facts confirm it.

It may not matter what you believe, but it does matter that you get your facts straight. Otherwise you look foolish - and no one should want to verify that to the board.

I will look at the past 10 years. A full decade. It is senseless to look back 20 years - before there even was a big-12 conference.

In the past 10 years (2005-06 season to 2014-15 season):

1. # of championships: OU - 3; BU - 5; Texas - 0

2. Top 3 finishes: OU - 9 of 10; BU - 9 of 10; Texas - 2 of 10

3. Average Finish: OU - 2.3; BU - 2.0; Texas - 6.0
.............Texas finished 7th or 8th in 6 of those 10 years.

The problem with just looking at the past 5 or 6 years is that Baylor had Griner 4 of those years. Mostly considering those 4 years is like looking mostly at where we finished when we had Courtney. I'm sure you can understand that. It makes a misleading comparison of the coaches and programs.

 

[BanjoCharley]

She's good.

 

[SoonerSpock]

I.e, rumor.

And this is not rumor:

Like three conference championship in the last eighteen and likely the last twenty while our chief rival was winning eleven maybe even thirteen. And that is wha t needs to be fixed. Status quo is unacceptable. Need: Better players or new coaches. Your choice which comes first.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

And this is not rumor:

Like two conference championship in the last eighteen and likely the last twenty while our chief rival was winning eleven maybe even thirteen. And that is wha t needs to be fixed. Status quo is unacceptable. Need: Better players or new coaches. Your choice which comes first.

No. It's not a rumor - and furthermore, it isn't even true.

 

[SoonerSpock]

I.e, rumor.

And this is not rumor:

Like three conference championship in the last eighteen and likely the last twenty while our chief rival was winning eleven maybe even thirteen. And that is wha t needs to be fixed. Status quo is unacceptable. Need: Better players or new coaches. Your choice which comes first.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

And this is not rumor:

Like two conference championship in the last eighteen and likely the last twenty while our chief rival was winning eleven maybe even thirteen. And that is wha t needs to be fixed. Status quo is unacceptable. Need: Better players or new coaches. Your choice which comes first.

You're struggling SS2. Best plan is to stop digging.

 

[SoonerSpock]

No. It's not a rumor - and furthermore, it isn't even true.

It absolutely is true. You just do not believe it and that is your right. The information to quote newspaper methodology when they cannot name their source is to identify it as coming from an irrefutable/inside source who has requested anonymity.

 

[SoonerSpock]

It may not matter what you believe, but it does matter that you get your facts straight. Otherwise you look foolish - and no one should want to verify that to the board.

I will look at the past 10 years. A full decade. It is senseless to look back 20 years - before there even was a big-12 conference.

In the past 10 years (2005-06 season to 2014-15 season):

1. # of championships: OU - 3; BU - 5; Texas - 0

2. Top 3 finishes: OU - 9 of 10; BU - 9 of 10; Texas - 2 of 10

3. Average Finish: OU - 2.3; BU - 2.0; Texas - 6.0
.............Texas finished 7th or 8th in 6 of those 10 years.

The problem with just looking at the past 5 or 6 years is that Baylor had Griner 4 of those years. Mostly considering those 4 years is like looking mostly at where we finished when we had Courtney. I'm sure you can understand that. It makes a misleading comparison of the coaches and programs.

By count the number is OU 5 and Baylor 11. If you are going to have to count them count them all. If you only going to count half of them do as the NCAA does and count the conference tournament champions as that is the one that earns the qualification to the NCCA tournament.

If you want to get really current count the last 5 years and the numbers are OU 0 and Baylor 10. Go back
seven years and OU looks a little better with OU 1 and Baylor 11.

If you are going to count only one to distort the impact of the numbers you are free to deceive.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Big_12_Conference_champions

 

[SoonerSpock]

It may not matter what you believe, but it does matter that you get your facts straight. Otherwise you look foolish - and no one should want to verify that to the board.

I will look at the past 10 years. A full decade. It is senseless to look back 20 years - before there even was a big-12 conference.

In the past 10 years (2005-06 season to 2014-15 season):

1. # of championships: OU - 3; BU - 5; Texas - 0

2. Top 3 finishes: OU - 9 of 10; BU - 9 of 10; Texas - 2 of 10

3. Average Finish: OU - 2.3; BU - 2.0; Texas - 6.0
.............Texas finished 7th or 8th in 6 of those 10 years.

The problem with just looking at the past 5 or 6 years is that Baylor had Griner 4 of those years. Mostly considering those 4 years is like looking mostly at where we finished when we had Courtney. I'm sure you can understand that. It makes a misleading comparison of the coaches and programs.

So we are to exclude Griner. Baylor recruited her OU did not. We don't discount the significance of the Paris twins, Abi and DRob's impact in their conference championship wins. I surmise with that logic OU may never have won the four conference championships they won in 2006-2009.

By my and the B12 the count is OU 5 and Baylor 11. If you are going to have to count them count them all. If you only going to count half of them do as the NCAA does and count the conference tournament champions as that is the one that earns the qualification to the NCCA tournament. If you are going to eliminate championships with Griner and Paris the count is OU nada, Baylor 3.

If you are going to count only one to distort the impact of the numbers you are free to deceive.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Big_12_Conference_champions

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

It absolutely is true. You just do not believe it and that is your right. The information to quote newspapers comes from an irrefutable source who request anonymity.

What in the world does that mean?

"The information to quote newspapers" ?????

We are not "quoting newspapers".

 

[SoonerSpock]

What in the world does that mean?

"The information to quote newspapers" ?????

We are not "quoting newspapers".

Perhaps I was not clear enough' I was trying to teach you how journalist, see it most frequently in print, when they take statements from reliable informed sources and quote what the source without identifying them by name but instead referencing their request for anonymity. You can accept the sources statement as fact or rumor but the probability of accuracy is much greater than it being a rumor if in fact the source is a reliable source. I know my source in the program to be such. Everything he has told me ultimately been confirmed as truth over a period of about 12 years.

Oh and it is not Sherri although I do speak to her occasionally as we live in the same neighborhood.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Perhaps I was not clear enough I was trying to teach you how journalist, see it most frequently in print, take statements from reliable informed sources and quote what they say without identifying them by name but referencing their request for anonymity. You can accept the sources statement as fact or rumor but the probability of accuracy is much great than it being a rumor if in fact the source is a reliable source. I know my source in the program to be such. Everything he has told me ultimately been confirmed as truth.

Oh and it is not Sherri although I do speak to her occasionally as we live in the same neighborhood.

Unfortunately you were unsuccessful because you did not punctuate the sentence correctly. If you want to teach, you will need to learn to express yourself correctly. Whether it is in the newspaper, in conversations with others, or even on a message board.

Maybe you are not the right person to try teaching others since you are showing signs of not being a good learner.

Perhaps you would be more successful if you simply control your illusions of grandeur and post comments.

 

[sybarite]

Rumors and heresay.

If I were to believe the nonsense that is posted on this board concerning Sherri, I would be insisting on Sherri's removal. Let's see what she has been accused of:

---she only recruits prospects of some religious commitment (at least there is some disagreement on this)

---she apparently does not recruits homosexuals. Either that, or she won't let them be exposed as such while at OU.

---she apparently gets irritated with prospects (reasons not yet clear) and refuses to contact them any further, causing them to withdraw their commitment to OU or to reject OU.

---she plays favorites

---she won't recruit anyone with tattoos, or at least with any significant quantity of them.

---she is incapable of recruiting talent

---she is unable to evaluate talent (this isn't that clear)

---she can't teach blocking out

---she can't teach fakes before shots

---she isn't concerned with turnovers

---she isn't a very good X/O coach

---she and the program are going downhill (to where it was?)

---she was better off when she had a male (Bo Overton) on her staff

---she is too attached to her staff and won't fire anyone to get a good recruiter.

---she hired her son (Gasso, Stoops?)

I guess that there are other things. But, these things keep coming up in post after post and thread after thread.

The points that disturb me the most are the first five. They paint a picture of someone who is rather bigoted, someone that I would detest. They call her character into question.

Yet, none of it is based on anything other than what someone has said, someone close to the program, people who know somebody. Some of it seems to have been due to the remarks of a disgruntled relative whose daughter went elsewhere.

Yet, none of it seems to fit the type of person who arranges for her players and associates to perform charity work, to build homes for the homeless, to spend time with the homeless in Haiti. None of it seems to fit with the person who pens The Write Place and Time.

The rest of the frequent accusations call into question her competence. I guess that you can question that according to your own standards. I admit that I tend to regard Sherri as having a good deal more expertise than anyone on this board. She built the program, and somebody elected her to the Hall of Fame. But, you are pretty much free to challenge her competence if you wish. I will tend to remind you that her record gives her a lot of credibility.

I know that you will say that you didn't have any intention of questioning her character or competence. But, it is what has been done over and over.

 

[KCRuf/Nek]

What in the world does that mean?

"The information to quote newspapers" ?????

We are not "quoting newspapers".

I don't think he knows.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Question: Do you think that we will continue to shoot those percentages



Your Answer: ?

My answer is for the season we are at 40 percent
(barely) from the field and 32 percent from behind the arc.

Which way do you think the trend is going currently?

I say down. Gabbi and Peyton right now are wasted space on the floor offensively. Maddie is a bit better, but not much. Challenge her and our top scorer, KK, misses lay-ups like she's blind.

I see nothing that indicates this shooting slump will end anytime soon. We might have a hot game or two, but if we finish over 40 and 35 percent by year's end, I think we will be lucky.


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