2015 Elijah Cain SG

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Another 2015 offer for a SG.

I'm a little worried on the surface.... Shake just left and then another 2015 offer goes out... Could be nothing could mean thomas will be eligible this year. Just thinking out loud...
 
Another 2015 offer for a SG.

I'm a little worried on the surface.... Shake just left and then another 2015 offer goes out... Could be nothing could mean thomas will be eligible this year. Just thinking out loud...

How solid of an "offer" is it? Maybe we offered him a while back and it's just leaking out. Who reported it?
 
You could be right on both counts, Coach. Then again, Kruger usually offers several recruits at every position, knowing full well that "putting all of your eggs in one basket" is risky at best. Our former coach learned that the hard way.

Personally, I think Shake will be a Sooner in the end. By all accounts, he and his mother had a great visit last weekend. I believe the fact that he can play within easy driving distance for his family and friends to attend every home game and a good share of the away games will work in our favor in the end.

I'll still be chewing on my fingernails until he completes all of his remaining visits. But, we all knew in advance that he planned to take three more before making a decision.
 
It was extended yesterday. RJ is the source, along with the kid.

I think we end up with Shake as well..

If anyone has soonerscoop.com RJ Young said on twitter he'll discuss it on their board over there. So.... someone go read his take...
 
It was extended yesterday. RJ is the source, along with the kid.

I think we end up with Shake as well..

If anyone has soonerscoop.com RJ Young said on twitter he'll discuss it on their board over there. So.... someone go read his take...

Thanks. Sounds legit. Saw Swaim post it and I don't believe a word that gaggy says...


I think we get Shake as well.
 
It was extended yesterday. RJ is the source, along with the kid.

I think we end up with Shake as well..

If anyone has soonerscoop.com RJ Young said on twitter he'll discuss it on their board over there. So.... someone go read his take...

There is nothing on SoonerScoop about Elijah Cain.

I did notice that RJ posted on 8/12 that the NCAA had received Thomas' waiver request "last Monday". I know there are some posters that think it hasn't been submitted yet ..... I choose to believe it has.
 
There is nothing on SoonerScoop about Elijah Cain.

I did notice that RJ posted on 8/12 that the NCAA had received Thomas' waiver request "last Monday". I know there are some posters that think it hasn't been submitted yet ..... I choose to believe it has.

SoonerScoop is a very poor sight about basketball information, especially about recruiting. VerbalCommits is usually up to date with offers if you don't follow twitter very well.
 
I did a little research on Cain. None of the best known recruiting sites I looked at show him with an OU offer yet. Since it's all over twitter, including a tweet from Elijah himself, I have to believe it's true.

Most of the sites I looked at showed Memphis was his first and only high-major offer, until now that is. As I scanned through several articles and watched a couple of highlight videos, I couldn't help but think that Cain may be a back up plan, or his scholarship offer is conditional on the kind of season he has this fall. Unless I'm missing something, which is not only possible but likely, he just doesn't appear to be the level of player LK and his staff have been going after the last couple of years.

Judging by everything I found, he's a very versatile scorer who can score from anywhere, which is no doubt why he has getting some attention from high-major recruiters now. According to the scouting report in the link below, he needs to work on his defense to play at the next level. That's the part that caused me to wonder if he's more of a back up plan right now. The link also has a highlight video, so you can decide for yourself if he's the kind of player who could be successful at OU:

Scouting Report
He is a very unique and special scoring guard. He can score in every way possible, whether its a jump shot, posting up smaller guards or taking you off the dribble. He is most effective playing in an uptempo offense. Cain has the ability to be a good defensive player he just doesn’t seem very interested in playing defense all the time. He has many moments of getting lazy and allowing his opponent to score on him. He will need to work on his defensive approach as he gets to college. Due to his amazing offensive abilities Cain will get looks from schools in the AAC, A-10 and CAA. –July 2, 2013

http://cityofbasketballlove.com/recruiting-profiles/elijah-cain-g-2015/
 
He is slow with no left hand. He's not as good as Collins or Harris from 2014.
 
He is slow with no left hand. He's not as good as Collins or Harris from 2014.

Not so sure about that... A lot.... I mean a lot less baggage as those 2. Even though I really like Collins.
 
Someone please explain to me why we would be recruiting a "shooting guard" from Jersey who averaged 7.8ppg on the EYBL Circuit and shot 58% from the line over the summer. We need to focus on the two best guards in Oklahoma with Shake Milton (Owasso) and Curran Scott (Edmond Memorial). If anyone actually got out and watched the Oklahoma kids play this summer then you'll understand where I'm coming from. I'd prefer a shooting guard that can fill it up.
 
Someone please explain to me why we would be recruiting a "shooting guard" from Jersey who averaged 7.8ppg on the EYBL Circuit and shot 58% from the line over the summer. We need to focus on the two best guards in Oklahoma with Shake Milton (Owasso) and Curran Scott (Edmond Memorial). If anyone actually got out and watched the Oklahoma kids play this summer then you'll understand where I'm coming from. I'd prefer a shooting guard that can fill it up.

We are focused on Shake. He's be #1-2 Priority since his freshmen year.
Curran Scott isnt OU level. How are you related to him?
 
Ill take LK and staff opinions on Cain over Dad, uncle, friends opinion on Scott.
I think his track record is slightly proven.
 
We are focused on Shake. He's be #1-2 Priority since his freshmen year.
Curran Scott isnt OU level. How are you related to him?

Completely agree on Scott. Seen him play, very good high school player that wouldn't translate to high D1 IMO.

Complaining about offering Cain? If we miss out on Shake we need a backup plan, you don't want Cain thinking you only started talking to him and offered him because you missed out on everyone else. You can now say you've started a relationship with him and offered him before Shake or someone else went elsewhere. Now I do think we get Shake, above was just hypothetical.
 
That's fine about Shake, and if he's our #1 priority, then I can live with that, but I'm still not sold he's the kind of player to take us to the next level. I'd be interested to know how many of you guys actually get out and watch these kids play. I have nothing to do with Scott, but I do know basketball and actually see all these kids because I travel with an AAU team plus I witnessed him put up 36 or so against PC West last year as I was looking at their young guard.

There's also a really good camp in California (Pangos) that ranked the Scott kid as one of the top five shooting guards at the camp. That camp included both Shake and Isaiah Briscoe (#1) Hopefully you know who he is.......I couldn't care less if Cain, Scott or Shake is the best. I was just pointing out what I've seen with my own eyes instead of what I've read.
 
That's fine about Shake, and if he's our #1 priority, then I can live with that, but I'm still not sold he's the kind of player to take us to the next level. I'd be interested to know how many of you guys actually get out and watch these kids play. I have nothing to do with Scott, but I do know basketball and actually see all these kids because I travel with an AAU team plus I witnessed him put up 36 or so against PC West last year as I was looking at their young guard.

There's also a really good camp in California (Pangos) that ranked the Scott kid as one of the top five shooting guards at the camp. That camp included both Shake and Isaiah Briscoe (#1) Hopefully you know who he is.......I couldn't care less if Cain, Scott or Shake is the best. I was just pointing out what I've seen with my own eyes instead of what I've read.

Not sold on a top 75 guard in the country?? Come on man... So you want us to recruit Scott who is 300ish...?
Yeah I know who briscoe is... Nice try though. Which AAU team do you run?
 
Coach talk: Your previous responses to my post has caused me to do some research. And your backhanded comment about me having ties to Curran Scott were totally false, I have no ties to him. I also never said I "ran" an AAU program, I said I travel with one. Its my daughters team, and each time we were in a town that had boys tournaments being played at the same time, I went and watched some of the Elite boys teams play. So when I make a comment, its usually based on what I have witnessed and not on speculation. Having said that, I assume you would consider the EYBL a high level of competition. A level at which if a player was successful there, there would be a pretty high chance his game would "translate" to the next level, correct??? Especially if statistics backed that up. As I said, I looked up the EYBL stats for some recently discussed guards on this forum who OU has had some level of interest in. They are all 6'3 to 6'4 and between 170 and 195 lbs, class of 2015. I'm going to give the EYBL stats for these 4 players and everyone can tell me which players they think we should be looking at, if any at all. so, here goes:

Player A - 7.8 PPG, 2.1 Assists/Game, 39.7%FG, 58.1%FT, 3.4 Rebs/Game
Player B - 11.6 PPG, 4.4Assists/Game, 50%FG, 82%FT, 5.2 Rebs/Game
Player C - 15.1 PPG, 2.0 Assists/Game, 39.1%FG, 86%FT, 3.4 Rebs/Game
Player D - 4.4 PPG, 0.9 Assists/game, 38.1%FG, 50%FT, 1.9 Rebs/Game

Again, this is for everyone, who do you think we should be looking at if any? No internet cheating either, just look at the stats above, and give your opinion. After everyone weighs in, I will tell you who is who!
 
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Player A - 7.8 PPG, 2.1 Assists/Game, 39.7%FG, 58.1%FT, 3.4 Rebs/Game
Player B - 11.6 PPG, 4.4Assists/Game, 50%FG, 82%FT, 5.2 Rebs/Game
Player C - 15.1 PPG, 2.0 Assists/Game, 39.1%FG, 86%FT, 3.4 Rebs/Game
Player D - 4.4 PPG, 0.9 Assists/game, 38.1%FG, 50%FT, 1.9 Rebs/Game

Give me two heaping helpings of B. That dude is efficient!
 
Give me two heaping helpings of B. That dude is efficient!

Also, minutes play a role in this, as do turnovers, steals, overall defense, and intangibles. If it were JUST about stats, player evaluation would be easy.
 
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