About all this questioning substitution patterns and such

[AdaSooner]

WAY too early to make that statement, IMO.

Yes, he has done some things at OU that he hasn't done elsewhere. But he has also been at OU longer. I hope this is the ONE year we miss the Dance under LK. I really do. But if he misses again in 3-4 years, it'll be the same old song. I hope this is his one bad year. But Kelvin and Billy were both around a pretty long time to only have those 1 bad years (seems like Billy might have had more than just the one, but I don't know for sure off the top of my head).

So again, we'll see. LK was hired to do one thing at OU, and he's done that really well. But he has his short comings. Always has. Likely always will. Will be interesting to see what the next several seasons brings.

Lon has done one more thing some here, including you, said he would have to do before he would be accepted as a good recruiter as well as a good coach: Keep KU or one of the blue blood schools from stealing a high profile, home grown recruit.

No one can say that anymore.

 

[WTSooner]

Lon has done one more thing some here, including you, said he would have to do before he would be accepted as a good recruiter as well as a good coach: Keep KU or one of the blue blood schools from stealing a high profile, home grown recruit.

No one can say that anymore.

I don't remember saying that.

 

[WTSooner]

so you ADMIT that what you're striving for is an ideological goal.

a "dream" of yours.

and you consistently bash this coach and program for not meeting your dream.

I choose to find happiness in the now. My view has been on this Earth as a discipline for almost 3,000 years. More people on this planet believe as I do than you. So if my views make you sick then I suggest your own standard is askew.

And I can't stand people who lack the vision to see past the end of their own nose. grow up.

Oh, and dont challenge me to debate. I do this for a living and I am way out of your league.

LOL. Good Lord, dude.

And you don't "do this for a living". You are a small time hack of an attorney. Don't try to church that up, Joe Dirt.

 

[coolm]

As usual. They attack you personally when they can't defend their own views.

I hope you did a better job teaching your kids than that.

I suspect kids coached by Lon would do a MUCH better job defending their position mentally. I am starting to believe thats where you and Lon truly veer off in coaching philosophies. The mental part.

As for the "hack" comment ... wanna compare who has helped more people?
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/Results...ateH=&iLC=&iLCType=&iYear=&iNumber=&citation=

 

[hoopsaustin]

As usual. They attack you personally when they can't defend their own views.

I hope you did a better job teaching your kids than that.

I suspect kids coached by Lon would do a MUCH better job defending their position mentally. I am starting to believe thats where you and Lon truly veer off in coaching philosophies. The mental part.

As for the "hack" comment ... wanna compare who has helped more people?
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/Results...ateH=&iLC=&iLCType=&iYear=&iNumber=&citation=

:facepalm dudes so insecure..

Anyways.. next year? We need you now

 

[WaymanFan]

I believe Sampson's worst year was his 3rd year to the last, which was 04 after the Final 4 with a young team. 05 and 06 were big disappointments though. 04 was disappointing but it was immediately after a final 4 and elite 8 and probably the best 3-4 year run of Sampson's tenure. Then 04 came about with a young team but most of those guys never panned out due to grades or just being knuckleheads. So, 05 was a decent year but ended disappointingly with an early loss in the Big 12 tournament to Texas Tech and then a 2nd round loss in the dance to Utah. 06 was a 1 and done in both the Big 12 and Dance. Everyone saw both of them coming.

So, if Lon takes this young team to the dance next year -- say a sweet 16 -- he will buck a trend by both the previous 2 OU coaches which is taking a young team and forming them into a good tournament team. Neither Sampson or the other coach were capable of that.

BOB, Coach Sampson did a great job with that '04 team. It was a "Murphy's Law" year, much like Billy had in 1991. I don't think any other coach would have done more with that team. Had the NIT committee given us a fair draw, we may have made it to NYC like the '91 team did. His last team was preseason a#5 or #6 in the country. while that wasn't deserved even without hindsight, that last team just never really jelled...but one disappointing season out of 12 is certainly understandable.

 

[stormspencer]

I believe going 11-19 sucks.

I hope we're better next year.

Amen brother.

 

[coolm]

BOB, Coach Sampson did a great job with that '04 team. It was a "Murphy's Law" year, much like Billy had in 1991. I don't think any other coach would have done more with that team. Had the NIT committee given us a fair draw, we may have made it to NYC like the '91 team did. His last team was preseason a#5 or #6 in the country. while that wasn't deserved even without hindsight, that last team just never really jelled...but one disappointing season out of 12 is certainly understandable.

BUT ... maybe at some point ALL of you need to ask "is my standard is a little off"?

If your standard is causing you to not enjoy a game then maybe it's the standard that is failing you.

 

[SoonerinNC]

Some just live in a negative world, others try to feel better about themselves by criticizing everyone else. Some just have superior attitudes and try to maintain their superiority by looking down on others. Mostly they are not interested in facts. They ALREADY know the answers.

And we probably have a few non-OU fans who like to agitate.

Facts are that the toughest schedule in Div I coincided with some unfortunate circumstances.

We only had 3 returnees who one could feel would form the core of a good team. One (Woodard) was pretty much lost before the beginning of conference play. The other two (Lattin and James) were not nearly as effective as expected. The JUCO (Strong-Moore) probably ended up being our 3rd most effective point guard.

Everyone else was freshmen and sophs eligibility wise. That is a tough way to live in a major conference. My first year as a head coach in the big Oklahoma City conference I started 4 sophomores and one junior in a season I would like to forget. We only won seven or eight games. The next year with the same cast we finished 4th in the state with wins over #2 and #3. Believe me the players improved much more than I improved as a coach. As for sub patterns; with young and inexperienced players you never knew who would show up in games or practices ready to play or become a deer in the headlights. Frankly I was not as bothered as some by the sub patterns.

There are also facts that give me some hope.

Our recruiting has improved. McGusty and Young are two of the best players to choose OU since Griffin and Tisdale. Doolittle and hopefully Manek will be nearly as strong.

Odomes had a solid year but a little inconsistent. Even James appeared to be becoming the guy we expected in the latest games. I suspect he tried to do too much to carry the team and when you try to overpower the game at this level it usually leads to trouble. Lately he seems to be playing more within his abilities. Buford became a more well rounded player and McNeace showed good potential. Lattin has been better lately. Shepard is still not showing a great offensive game but plays good defense and doesn't make mistakes that get you beat very often.

So many close losses are of concern. But we were competitive most of the time. Just seemed that we quit executing late in so many games. Like we were out of gas. Some blame lack of leadership but I think the leadership thing is often overblown.

Hopefully, we will return to the dance next year but no matter how good we are as a team we will still have the negative posters, the sunshine pumpers and the trolls. That is just life and moreso on the internet.

 

[WTSooner]

As for the "hack" comment ... wanna compare who has helped more people?
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/Results...ateH=&iLC=&iLCType=&iYear=&iNumber=&citation=

lol, if you knew what I did that isn't a comparison you'd want to make.

YOU made this personal. I don't give two craps about your job or your buddha. Matter of fact, religion isn't supposed to be discussed here. So stop bringing it up. I promise, nobody here cares about your views on such stuff.

 

[coolm]

YOU made this personal. I don't give two craps about your job or your buddha. Matter of fact, religion isn't supposed to be discussed here. So stop bringing it up. I promise, nobody here cares about your views on such stuff.

First of all - I have STILL yet to mention anything personal about you to date. You did that. Only you.

Second - you say I am wrong so I question your standard. you show what the base for your standard is, I show what the base for mine is. No one cares about my views? I care about my views. Thats enough for me.

Quit assuming your right to complain doesn't come with a caveat attached that we might complain back.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

As usual. They attack you personally when they can't defend their own views.

I hope you did a better job teaching your kids than that.

I suspect kids coached by Lon would do a MUCH better job defending their position mentally. I am starting to believe thats where you and Lon truly veer off in coaching philosophies. The mental part.

As for the "hack" comment ... wanna compare who has helped more people?
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/Results...ateH=&iLC=&iLCType=&iYear=&iNumber=&citation=

I just want to comment that I'm not saying you are a hack, and you have obviously been on quite a few cases....but it's hard to take an attorney seriously that has a shirtless pic as their linkedin profile picture....might be a good idea to change that.

Unless you are retired and just don't care. if that is the case, carry on

 

[Big Old Booger]

BOB, Coach Sampson did a great job with that '04 team. It was a "Murphy's Law" year, much like Billy had in 1991. I don't think any other coach would have done more with that team. Had the NIT committee given us a fair draw, we may have made it to NYC like the '91 team did. His last team was preseason a#5 or #6 in the country. while that wasn't deserved even without hindsight, that last team just never really jelled...but one disappointing season out of 12 is certainly understandable.

I agree with you but results wise (NIT instead of NCAA) that 04 team was his worst. I think that 06 team would have been much better with Lavender and McKenzie. It's a shame they didn't stick around. Add DeAngelo Alexander if he doesn't have his academic issue and is here again that 06 (and 05; can you imagine the 04 team with Taj Gray and healthy Bookout?) team is pretty stout.

Like this year, I enjoyed watching that 04 team even when they lost. I loved seeing the development of the young core on that team especially Foust late in the season. That was a good team, they had 20 wins and probably deserved a spot in the dance. However, it was Sampson's worst team because they didn't make the dance. I guess the 96 team wasn't much better though they did make the dance but had an ugly loss to Temple in the first round.

I've enjoyed watching the sooners play basketball for every season (even this year) except the last 2 Capel teams. I watched the games but some nights it was really hard to watch. I didn't see many positives especially that last season. The 2nd to the last season at least TMG was fun to watch and he kept them in many games. This year despite the record has even been a lot of fun and I make time to watch the games. Those 2 Capel seasons, I did not make time. If the game was on I watched it but if not I did something else.

 

[Big Old Booger]

I just want to comment that I'm not saying you are a hack, and you have obviously been on quite a few cases....but it's hard to take an attorney seriously that has a shirtless pic as their linkedin profile picture....might be a good idea to change that.

Unless you are retired and just don't care. if that is the case, carry on

No offense but I had the same thought. However, it's his linkedin so who cares, LOL.

My linkedIn picture is of me sitting in a pool in Cancun so it's not much better. I'm in IT though and trying to appear like I'm more than just a stiff in a suit.

 

[coolm]

so some of you judged my legal career based on a photo in linkedln? LOL

shallow much?

I only do misdemeanors now and only by referral from priors. Whatever is on linkedln means nothing to me and probably just came from my FB site. I dont do anything on linkedln. After practicing for decades I dont need it.

but whatever ... you can believe as you wish.

 

[152219]

This devolved into who is the most arrogant poster on the board. Good times.

 

[coolm]

nvm. just not worth it.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

so some of you judged my legal career based on a photo in linkedln? LOL

shallow much?

I only do misdemeanors now and only by referral from priors. Whatever is on linkedln means nothing to me and probably just came from my FB site. I dont do anything on linkedln. After practicing for decades I dont need it.

but whatever ... you can believe as you wish.

I never judged your abilities....just stated how it comes off.
And if I were looking for an attorney, and I ran across you, I think I would next the next button pretty quick....not b/c of your resume, but because of the unprofessionalism. Again, not trying to judge, but that is how it comes off. Linkedin isn't facebook. But if you are in a place where you really couldn't care less then more power to you

 

[coolm]

I never judged your abilities....just stated how it comes off.
And if I were looking for an attorney, and I ran across you, I think I would next the next button pretty quick....not b/c of your resume, but because of the unprofessionalism. Again, not trying to judge, but that is how it comes off. Linkedin isn't facebook. But if you are in a place where you really couldn't care less then more power to you

Actually - I am glad you posted this here. Thank you.

Many years ago I was in the emergency room about to head into surgery and one of my friends was trying to contact my kids to tell them. The only way she could get hold of my oldest son was thru linkedin because she remembered me telling her who he worked for etc... . I didnt have an account on linkedin so she made one for me and used the "use FB information" option. That picture was my FB avatar and I've never bothered to change it on linkedin because thats not my "marketing". But, thru no fault or even action of my own now you deem me unprofessional.

Much the same way that you and these others look at the Sooners W/L record or merely the final score to evaluate your satisfaction with what the Sooners have done. As I suggested and you have proven you guys are shallow in your judgment. Right here in this example and with the OU basketball program.

Thats why I say you need to re-evaluate your own standards;

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Just trying to give you some advice...b/c whether you use it as marketing or not, it affects how people view you b/c linkedin is a business website. Again, if that doesn't matter to you, more power to you.

But, thru no fault or even action of my own now you deem me unprofessional.

Well it is through your action that I said you APPEAR unprofessonal....b/c your professional headshot is shirtless.