Anyone listening to the Animal?

Pat Jones knows stuff, he's just completely and outrageously biased against OU. I mean, that's fine, he just really dislikes us. Don't take it too personally.

BBJ has no excuse, and his predictions are almost always wrong.

The only reason BBJ ever gets one right is b/c he makes so many predictions...the odds are in his favor to get one right every so often.

Other than Hardrick, theres not one guy on our roster that I don't think can't make some improvements to be a solid player in this league.

Washington and Thompson are the only 2 that are running out of time to make those necessary improvements but Washington is just missing a little more confidence on offense to be solid while Thompson needs to some rebounding and defensive toughness also to be solid. Luckily for these guys, they will be able to compete against one another along with Fitz, Goff, Honore, and Osby in practice.
 
BBJ, Traber, Pat Jones, and Mark Rodgers are all discussing OU basketball. Here's a few fun snippets from the conversation


BBJ is convinced OU bball will get hammered by the NCAA.


Pat Jones said Missouri is a better job than OU, and was ready to debate whether K-State or OU was the better job before Rodgers put him in his place about Missouri.


Traber said only three players on the current roster are worthy of playing D-1.


BBJ said no player other than Clark has any talent.

I would say only Clark and Fitzgerald.
 
I am not saying some of those other guys arent good enough to fill out our roster...

but these 3 are the only ones i feel could play on a championship caliber team...with both Fitz and Pledger being role players and Clark developing into a star...gonna need a lot of work around them to fill out the roster if they want to compete for the Big 12

That's the way I see it, too, Edmond. I think Osby might be on that list, it's hard to say that for sure until we see him play.

As for BBJ, Jones, Traber and Rodgers: Consider the source!
 
I think Neal can be really good. I think Newell needs to basically be a 2. I don't think he can handle the ball well enough to be a point. Kinda like Hollis Price. He was never that comfortable as a point when we got Quannas he was amazing as a 2.
 
Personally, I think Missouri is a better job than Oklahoma.

1. It is THE marquee bball job in the state (the vast majority of folks in this state still think O-State is heads and shoulders above OU in bball).

2. The arena.

3. NO NBA competition.


I know we've had more success than Mizzou, but I'm not convinced it's not a better job. They take their BBall pretty seriously up there.
 
Personally, I think Missouri is a better job than Oklahoma.

1. It is THE marquee bball job in the state (the vast majority of folks in this state still think O-State is heads and shoulders above OU in bball).

2. The arena.

3. NO NBA competition.


I know we've had more success than Mizzou, but I'm not convinced it's not a better job. They take their BBall pretty seriously up there.

I would agree with this.

Mizzou fans aren't very good at supporting athletics on the whole, but they are gung-ho for basketball.
 
I agree also that Mizzou is a better job than OU because of fan support and the arena.
 
I'm not sure where this Missouri support is coming from. I've been to their new arena and over half of the seats were empty against decent competition. They support the team against the big dogs, and stay home with their confederate flags waving for most games.

I'm not buying Missouri is a better job, in the least. St. Louis kids for the most part are soft. Most good Kansas City kids are going to KU. Their fans are really strange people, creeping in from southern missouri, which is the weirdest place in this country. (Has anyone met a Native Bransonite??) They have had a nice, cute little bump in performance the past few years, and while OU's attendance and support isn't any better, there isn't any one reason that comes to mind why Missouri would be a better job, and certainly historical performance wouldn't dictate that. Duke and North Carolina don't struggle with an NBA team in their backyard.

As for the Arena, sure, they have a nicer arena, but their overall facilities are not nicer.
 
I'd agree with the "Mizzou is a better job" side. Their administration/athletic dep. cares substantially more about their program than OU's does. If you gave OU's AthDep $100 dollars to spend on football and basketball, they'd give football $99 dollars and bball $1.
 
I'd throw my hate in the "Mizzou is a better job" hat. Their administration/athletic dep. cares substantially more about their program than OU's does. If you gave OU's AthDep $100 dollars to spend on football and basketball, they'd give football $99 dollars and bball $1.

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I think we're falling victim to the "prisoner of the moment" syndrome. When you look at it from a historical perspective, there is little to zero evidence that Missouri is a better basketball program than OU is. It's better to take a wide view than simply looking at the past two seasons and deciding that Missouri is a better program as a result.
 
One of my favorite threads here in quite some time.
 
I think we're falling victim to the "prisoner of the moment" syndrome. When you look at it from a historical perspective, there is little to zero evidence that Missouri is a better basketball program than OU is. It's better to take a wide view than simply looking at the past two seasons and deciding that Missouri is a better program as a result.
I disagree. Missouri was a long-time Big 8 powerhouse. One also cannot deny that their BBall program is one of the key cogs on campus.

It can be argued that our major rival during the glory days of the 80s was NOT Kansas, but rather Missouri.

They hired a Dookie and fell on hard times.

We hired a Dookie and.......well........
 
I am on Play and Senior's side and it's not that close.
 
I disagree. Missouri was a long-time Big 8 powerhouse. One also cannot deny that their BBall program is one of the key cogs on campus.

It can be argued that our major rival during the glory days of the 80s was NOT Kansas, but rather Missouri.

They hired a Dookie and fell on hard times.

We hired a Dookie and.......well........

I'm just waiting for someone to offer up some factual evidence that supports the theory that Missouri is a better program rather than just their whims and conjecture. I have a feeling I'll be waiting awhile.
 
So, those who believe OU is a better job please explain your philosophy. I'd be more apt to agree with you if I believed our Administration gave a hoot.

I'm just waiting for someone to offer up some factual evidence that supports the theory that Missouri is a better program rather than just their whims and conjecture. I have a feeling I'll be waiting awhile.
Well, whatever. I guess you can just go back to *****ing about boca and abd. I'm just trying to have a decent debate here.
 
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