Everybody in the country watched TCU play against OU and Baylor. Highly ranked teams draw a national audience which is more important than a regional audience watching a mediocre team. The better the teams the higher than ratings the more national audience the higher TV deal. Then only splitting with 10 teams ends up giving Big 12 bigger pay checks. The system is working great.
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Yeah, they've only been a top 5 team in the country one time in all of their three years!
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No they didn't. OU v. TCU was a 1.3. OU v. WVU was 2. OU v Texas was a 2.8. TCU v. Baylor was a 2.8 and that wasn't even a national game. TCU's bowl game was the lowest rating that day (which was a holiday) at 3.5. OU on a Monday night got a 3.0. You simply don't know what you are talking about and make crap up all the time.
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TCU meaningless bowl game was at 9:30 in the morning PST on New Years Eve and was a blowout. On championship Saturday TCU/Iowa State was the 4th rated game in the nation. TCU/Baylor 2nd rated game in the nation that day. TCU/Kansas State 7th rated game in the country. TCU/West Virginia 3rd rated game in the nation that day. TCU/Texas Tech 9th rated game in the nation that day. TCU/Okie State 10th rated game in the nation that day. TCU/OU 9th rated game in the nation that day.
8 times TCU was one of the 10 highest rated games of the day. Saying they did not draw a national audience is hilariously wrong. Colorado State is a clown outfit compared to TCU. In the mountain west TCU went 7-0 vs them.
DFW market versus Fort Collins. lol lol lol Gee what a close call. TCU was a great add. The Big 12 teams are cashing big checks and every game is on national TV. Changing conferences would be stupid. It's working great. OU just needs to get better.
8 times TCU was one of the 10 highest rated games of the day. Saying they did not draw a national audience is hilariously wrong. Colorado State is a clown outfit compared to TCU. In the mountain west TCU went 7-0 vs them.
DFW market versus Fort Collins. lol lol lol Gee what a close call. TCU was a great add. The Big 12 teams are cashing big checks and every game is on national TV. Changing conferences would be stupid. It's working great. OU just needs to get better.
Am I missing something? A TCU game against Baylor had the same rating as OU-Texas (and slightly lower than OU's bowl game), and you don't think TCU was drawing audiences?
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Yes you are missing something. It was a Regional game at a better time slot and had about half the audience. The other half were watching a Big Ten game.
Additionally it was a bigger game. Texas had three losses going into that game and OU had lost the week before. With a regional game it should have doubled the OU v Texas audience but it. Didn't because they don't have the fan base that OU or Texas has.
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Where did I say they were better than the Big 12??
I just said it was a GOOD basketball conference, in response to the poster who said the SEC was NOT a good athletic conference.
They have 3 national titles in the last 9 years, 4 different SEC teams have won a national title at some point (compared to 1 for the Big 12), they had 2 Final Four teams just a year ago, and although its been down in recent years, it is obviously improving.
LSU, Vanderbilt and A&M will all be ranked this year, and Arkansas and Kentucky will be very good again, and Mississippi State and Tennessee made solid moves to improve this off season landing Ben Howland and Rick Barnes, and obviously Florida won't be down for long.
I did not say they are better than the Big 12 currently because they are not, but the SEC is historically a very good basketball conference and probably better than the Big 12 (11 SEC national titles in basketball compared to 3 Big 12 national titles).
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Not a single Big 12 game is regional. Every single one of them is national. When ABC shows 2 games in the 3:30 slot like TCU/West Virginia and Nebraska/Purdue the Big 10 region gets the Big 10 and the rest of the country gets TCU game. The other game is shown on ESPN2 and is listed as ABC Reverse mirror.
How do they decide who is broadcast on ABC in Los Angeles and New York? The better team. TCU was playing for something and draws a national audience.
TCU was a great add. Period end of story. You can bet the Big 12 AD's are LMAO at people complaining about the system as they cash the biggest checks in the country and every game is on national TV.
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The Baylor v TCU numbers are for a regional broadcast and include the numbers for a Michigan state game. It is clearly labeled that way.
To suggest TCU and Baylor have huge national draws is a joke.
My comments are not about the merits of TCU as a program compared to Colorado State, Cincinnati, or Louisville. They are about the potential for including additional TV markets in the Big XII. TCU simply doesn't add markets. The contract is based in part on the number of TVs in the conference.
To suggest TCU and Baylor have huge national draws is a joke.
My comments are not about the merits of TCU as a program compared to Colorado State, Cincinnati, or Louisville. They are about the potential for including additional TV markets in the Big XII. TCU simply doesn't add markets. The contract is based in part on the number of TVs in the conference.
Atlanta isn't a great pro town. They support the Falcons but not the Braves or Hawks. I think they lost the Flames but I could be wrong.
Georgia Tech has good but not great support. Of course average students can't get accepted to the school and it is small so little alumni base. However UGA is an hour away and has fantastic support in the Atlanta area. It is however similar to DFW in that every school in the southeast has alumni in the area.
Georgia Tech has good but not great support. Of course average students can't get accepted to the school and it is small so little alumni base. However UGA is an hour away and has fantastic support in the Atlanta area. It is however similar to DFW in that every school in the southeast has alumni in the area.
As I read the commentary about NYC allegiance to pro sports rather than college sports, I kept thinking that this was similar to Dallas and Houston. I don't think a good number of DFW fans follow TCU or SMU, and they barely know that UTA is there, although about 30,000 are enrolled. They are huge fans of the Mavericks, Rangers, Stars, and Cowboys. I don't think there are many Houston fans that follow U. Houston or Rice.
For many years, the largest alumni fan club in DFW was the OU Club. Now, I think it takes a back seat to that of A&M and UT. Yet, I see a lot more OU bumper stickers than anything from Texas. But, if you are a college sports fan in Texas, it is likely that you support one of the two major state schools, UT or A&M. Baylor is only for Baylor alums. I think a lot of folks wonder where Lubbock is.
I think OU has to leave for somewhere. I'm glad that Boren is now looking at the situation. I wanted the ACC or Big East (when it was still viable), primarily because of the academia. I'd rather be with The Big Ten or the Pac Ten-Eleven-Twelve (whatever) than with the SEC. But, we have to be somewhere other than the Big Twelve (-2).
Right now, the SEC is the strongest sportswise. That may change. Remember that it was Oregon vs Ohio State for the football title, not FSU vs Bama. The sudden decline of Penn State, Michigan, and Michigan State in other sports takes away from the strength of the Big Ten. They are still the best conference in wrestling (any SEC schools wrestle?). They used to be pretty solid in gymnastics and basketball. Baseball and softball are difficult in the Big Ten area during the Spring. They might welcome a southern venue early in the season. We might even take up lacrosse.
For many years, the largest alumni fan club in DFW was the OU Club. Now, I think it takes a back seat to that of A&M and UT. Yet, I see a lot more OU bumper stickers than anything from Texas. But, if you are a college sports fan in Texas, it is likely that you support one of the two major state schools, UT or A&M. Baylor is only for Baylor alums. I think a lot of folks wonder where Lubbock is.
I think OU has to leave for somewhere. I'm glad that Boren is now looking at the situation. I wanted the ACC or Big East (when it was still viable), primarily because of the academia. I'd rather be with The Big Ten or the Pac Ten-Eleven-Twelve (whatever) than with the SEC. But, we have to be somewhere other than the Big Twelve (-2).
Right now, the SEC is the strongest sportswise. That may change. Remember that it was Oregon vs Ohio State for the football title, not FSU vs Bama. The sudden decline of Penn State, Michigan, and Michigan State in other sports takes away from the strength of the Big Ten. They are still the best conference in wrestling (any SEC schools wrestle?). They used to be pretty solid in gymnastics and basketball. Baseball and softball are difficult in the Big Ten area during the Spring. They might welcome a southern venue early in the season. We might even take up lacrosse.
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