GAME 15 - #16 OKLAHOMA (13-1) vs #10 TEXAS A&M (12-2) 8pm CST on SEC NETWORK

[Soonerguy06]

call me a bad fan, but i'm already done with this year's team. I'm so tired of watching this same crap every single season. Moser just isn't the guy and I believe Sooner fans have tolerated enough of this and deserve something better. He's had his chance and I guarantee you this year will end in EXACTLY the same fashion the last several years under him have - several consecutive losses in conference play, with players that begin to not care and stop playing their hardest, only to end up at the bottom of the conference and out of the tourney. Not going to watch the debacle this time around, peace out

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I would not put it past this team to show some real growth by the end of the season but this isn't working.
While I still find the personal attacks childish and not useful, I can admit that @WichitaSooner and his minions appear to be right on PM.
I've said after last year that if we miss the tourney again, I fully support PM's firing. ANd it looks like that will be the case

 

[Sooner Season]

His unwillingness to give FB program what it needed led to Riley leaving, although I’m glad that asshole is gone, Joe C role in that is still present and has cast a cloud over the program still and is still causing problems.

BV contract extension.

Numerous NIL failures. He has been an impediment to our transition to NIL from the start. Saying the university doesn’t have any say in NIL is a lie.

Pete Hughes

Hiring BV instead of a national search.

He almost fumbled the softball stadium and lost patty gasso to Texas.

Jeff capel

Porter moser

Failing on new basketball arena and bball NIL

He’s also failed to raise money and alienated some donors. That’s a major part of his job and he’s failed, despite the enthusiasm and move to the SEC and with NIL and portal.

The failures of the AD and Joe C leadership are numerous.

Don't forget giving Porter Moser a $100,000 raise this past summer for his "leadership"!! Who couldn't see that was a move destined to make you look like a fool!

 

[BoulderSooner]

call me a bad fan, but i'm already done with this year's team. I'm so tired of watching this same crap every single season. Moser just isn't the guy and I believe Sooner fans have tolerated enough of this and deserve something better. He's had his chance and I guarantee you this year will end in EXACTLY the same fashion the last several years under him have - several consecutive losses in conference play, with players that begin to not care and stop playing their hardest, only to end up at the bottom of the conference and out of the tourney. Not going to watch the debacle this time around, peace out

you are a bad fan

 

[Soonerguy06]

Oh trust me, I feel badly about being over it this early in conference play, and will take the 'bad fan' stuff, but I'd rather watch from afar at this point than to get as invested and frustrated as I have been the last 3 seasons. I actually didn't think we deserved an NCAA tourney invite last season, based on how little passion and effort the guys were exerting by the end. I thought this team might be better defensively but they've looked very lazy the last 2 games and I won't watch it. I hope they regroup but i'm just going to check the scores and forums, not watch the games again until I know we've become less infuriating to watch.

 

[cvangild]

Oh trust me, I feel badly about being over it this early in conference play, and will take the 'bad fan' stuff, but I'd rather watch from afar at this point than to get as invested and frustrated as I have been the last 3 seasons. I actually didn't think we deserved an NCAA tourney invite last season, based on how little passion and effort the guys were exerting by the end. I thought this team might be better defensively but they've looked very lazy the last 2 games and I won't watch it. I hope they regroup but i'm just going to check the scores and forums, not watch the games again until I know we've become less infuriating to watch.

Did you expect this team to go undefeated? Some of you give no room for error. I get the past three years, but this is a completely different team for the most part. We weren’t favored at all to win @ bama and I get it, we got blown out, but it can happen in b-ball (look at Tenn). So some of you are basically giving up on this team based off of the result of one game, a home game against a top 10 team who had a dude go off in the 2nd half and hit 6 3’s (he’s a career 26% 3 pt shooter) and several of those were with a hand in his face. I get it, we were up 18 in the 2nd half, but a 18 point lead with 15+ mins to go isn’t at all a done deal. Turnovers killed us amd 4 of those were by a kid who should be a senior in HS. You’re already to give up on that kid for one game? Wow…I simply can’t get there. I hate losing as much as anyone, and we’re all entitled to have an opinion, but you’re not a true Sooner b-ball fan, it’s as simple as that. I haven’t missed a min of a game in 40 years. Last night hurt..it hurt bad. I woke up still thinking about it, but come on! I truly hope our team has more resolve than many of our “fans”.

It’s easy to be a “fan” for a team that always wins.

 

[steverocks35]

Did you expect this team to go undefeated? Some of you give no room for error. I get the past three years, but this is a completely different team for the most part. We weren’t favored at all to win @ bama and I get it, we got blown out, but it can happen in b-ball (look at Tenn). So some of you are basically giving up on this team based off of the result of one game, a home game against a top 10 team who had a dude go off in the 2nd half and hit 6 3’s (he’s a career 26% 3 pt shooter) and several of those were with a hand in his face. I get it, we were up 18 in the 2nd half, but a 18 point lead with 15+ mins to go isn’t at all a done deal. Turnovers killed us amd 4 of those were by a kid who should be a senior in HS. You’re already to give up on that kid for one game? Wow…I simply can’t get there. I hate losing as much as anyone, and we’re all entitled to have an opinion, but you’re not a true Sooner b-ball fan, it’s as simple as that. I haven’t missed a min of a game in 40 years. Last night hurt..it hurt bad. I woke up still thinking about it, but come on! I truly hope our team has more resolve than many of our “fans”.

It’s easy to be a “fan” for a team that always wins.

Is that you Porter????

 

[WichitaSooner]

Did you expect this team to go undefeated? Some of you give no room for error. I get the past three years, but this is a completely different team for the most part. We weren’t favored at all to win @ bama and I get it, we got blown out, but it can happen in b-ball (look at Tenn). So some of you are basically giving up on this team based off of the result of one game, a home game against a top 10 team who had a dude go off in the 2nd half and hit 6 3’s (he’s a career 26% 3 pt shooter) and several of those were with a hand in his face. I get it, we were up 18 in the 2nd half, but a 18 point lead with 15+ mins to go isn’t at all a done deal. Turnovers killed us amd 4 of those were by a kid who should be a senior in HS. You’re already to give up on that kid for one game? Wow…I simply can’t get there. I hate losing as much as anyone, and we’re all entitled to have an opinion, but you’re not a true Sooner b-ball fan, it’s as simple as that. I haven’t missed a min of a game in 40 years. Last night hurt..it hurt bad. I woke up still thinking about it, but come on! I truly hope our team has more resolve than many of our “fans”.

It’s easy to be a “fan” for a team that always wins.

You can’t possibly believe this, right? Saying people are basing it off one game? It’s 114 games. It’s now a very large body of work. And no, this team is not very different than the last three. They are trending in the exact way every Moser team has … beat up on a very soft schedule against which your lack of athleticism doesn’t cost you (despite playing poorly in many of those games), then immediately struggle once conference starts. Like I posted earlier, the issue is that none of the stuff our coach claims to want to accomplish works for us against better teams. We get killed on the glass, we no longer can create turnovers, and when we faced a really good defense last night, all of a sudden, we turn the ball over almost as much as the women’s team. Moser talked after the game about how turnovers haven’t been an issue this year and last night came out of the blue. Well, gee, I wonder why that is. You think maybe Alcorn State and Central Arkansas simply aren’t good gauges of whether your team will be able to take care of the ball against SEC teams? Miles has never played this level of competition. Elvis played for a solid team but let’s be honest, Dayton only plays a few games all season against teams that have any shot of making the tournament. Last night they played an extremely tough defense that makes nothing easy on you and punishes you when you make bad decisions or are a little loose with the ball, and we collapsed. It was remarkable we shot the ball that well against them, but shooting is the one thing in basketball that comes and goes and has nothing to do with effort or execution. We wasted a red hot shooting night because of all the old issues.

If we had been successful the past three seasons and a game like last night happened, people would be pissed about the game, sure. But people wouldn’t be calling for Moser’s job, at least not anyone rational. But it’s 114 games. We have all seen it dozens of times. The players change, the assistants change, the conference changes. One thing is constant, and that’s Moser. He doesn’t put together rosters built to compete at this level, and he doesn’t do a good job in-game. That’s why people are having a hard time staying optimistic.

 

[dksooner]

Even the play where we got a tieup called even though Moore clearly got fouled…..

What was he doing there? It never should have even come to that. He had a clean rebound but allowed himself to get into a position that he never should have been in. Protect the damn ball,

Totally agree and exactly what I told my brother when it happened. Looking at the season so far we totally should have lost to Michigan and won as we should have totally won last night but lost. Finding a way to win Saturday can heal a few wounds.

 

[Boom Soon]

You can’t possibly believe this, right? Saying people are basing it off one game? It’s 114 games. It’s now a very large body of work. And no, this team is not very different than the last three. They are trending in the exact way every Moser team has … beat up on a very soft schedule against which your lack of athleticism doesn’t cost you (despite playing poorly in many of those games), then immediately struggle once conference starts. Like I posted earlier, the issue is that none of the stuff our coach claims to want to accomplish works for us against better teams. We get killed on the glass, we no longer can create turnovers, and when we faced a really good defense last night, all of a sudden, we turn the ball over almost as much as the women’s team. Moser talked after the game about how turnovers haven’t been an issue this year and last night came out of the blue. Well, gee, I wonder why that is. You think maybe Alcorn State and Central Arkansas simply aren’t good gauges of whether your team will be able to take care of the ball against SEC teams? Miles has never played this level of competition. Elvis played for a solid team but let’s be honest, Dayton only plays a few games all season against teams that have any shot of making the tournament. Last night they played an extremely tough defense that makes nothing easy on you and punishes you when you make bad decisions or are a little loose with the ball, and we collapsed. It was remarkable we shot the ball that well against them, but shooting is the one thing in basketball that comes and goes and has nothing to do with effort or execution. We wasted a red hot shooting night because of all the old issues.

If we had been successful the past three seasons and a game like last night happened, people would be pissed about the game, sure. But people wouldn’t be calling for Moser’s job, at least not anyone rational. But it’s 114 games. We have all seen it dozens of times. The players change, the assistants change, the conference changes. One thing is constant, and that’s Moser. He doesn’t put together rosters built to compete at this level, and he doesn’t do a good job in-game. That’s why people are having a hard time staying optimistic.

Exactly this. I completely bought into this season after being down on Moser during the summer. Hell I even bought me and my family tickets to see OU play Vanderbilt. I wanted to believe it would be different. I thought maybe it would be. But it’s the same thing as the last three years. Moser finally gets a good crowd with a real shot of building momentum in the fan base and boom. Disappointment.

I remember watching football with my dad when I was younger. You know, 2007-2012, when OU was a lot of fun to watch. He would tell me about how I should enjoy the success because he had to suffer through the Blake years to get there. I hope that’ll be me someday. Suffering through the Moser years but eventually OU basketball gets there.

 

[cvangild]

You can’t possibly believe this, right? Saying people are basing it off one game? It’s 114 games. It’s now a very large body of work. And no, this team is not very different than the last three. They are trending in the exact way every Moser team has … beat up on a very soft schedule against which your lack of athleticism doesn’t cost you (despite playing poorly in many of those games), then immediately struggle once conference starts. Like I posted earlier, the issue is that none of the stuff our coach claims to want to accomplish works for us against better teams. We get killed on the glass, we no longer can create turnovers, and when we faced a really good defense last night, all of a sudden, we turn the ball over almost as much as the women’s team. Moser talked after the game about how turnovers haven’t been an issue this year and last night came out of the blue. Well, gee, I wonder why that is. You think maybe Alcorn State and Central Arkansas simply aren’t good gauges of whether your team will be able to take care of the ball against SEC teams? Miles has never played this level of competition. Elvis played for a solid team but let’s be honest, Dayton only plays a few games all season against teams that have any shot of making the tournament. Last night they played an extremely tough defense that makes nothing easy on you and punishes you when you make bad decisions or are a little loose with the ball, and we collapsed. It was remarkable we shot the ball that well against them, but shooting is the one thing in basketball that comes and goes and has nothing to do with effort or execution. We wasted a red hot shooting night because of all the old issues.

If we had been successful the past three seasons and a game like last night happened, people would be pissed about the game, sure. But people wouldn’t be calling for Moser’s job, at least not anyone rational. But it’s 114 games. We have all seen it dozens of times. The players change, the assistants change, the conference changes. One thing is constant, and that’s Moser. He doesn’t put together rosters built to compete at this level, and he doesn’t do a good job in-game. That’s why people are having a hard time staying optimistic.

I didn’t even read your long winded gibberish..wasn’t even talking to you. FO

Every season is different dip****. We won’t see a Fears type of player for a bit.

 

[cvangild]

Exactly this. I completely bought into this season after being down on Moser during the summer. Hell I even bought me and my family tickets to see OU play Vanderbilt. I wanted to believe it would be different. I thought maybe it would be. But it’s the same thing as the last three years. Moser finally gets a good crowd with a real shot of building momentum in the fan base and boom. Disappointment.

I remember watching football with my dad when I was younger. You know, 2007-2012, when OU was a lot of fun to watch. He would tell me about how I should enjoy the success because he had to suffer through the Blake years to get there. I hope that’ll be me someday. Suffering through the Moser years but eventually OU basketball gets there.

You two should go on a date.

 

[WichitaSooner]

You two should go on a date.

Pick the spot. We can double with you and Porter.

 

[dksooner]

Pick the spot. We can double with you and Porter.

Not a big ws fan but that was funny

 

[cvangild]

Pick the spot. We can double with you and Porter.

You got me there. Porter is too high wired for me.

Look, I’m not as much of a PM fan as I am a OU b-ball fan. I can’t imagine just not watching, regardless of who the coach is…even if you were coaching…I would watch. Of the 8 players who played significant minutes last night, 6 of them are new to the team this year and are giving their all. The other two are true Sooners who want to be here. Moore could have easily left and found a home somewhere, but he chose to come back and had improved his game. They deserve our support, regardless of what you or anyone thinks about the coach. The two injured players are also new to the team, so yeah, I refuse to lump them in with the past 3 teams that PM has coached. Most of them had nothing to do with how those seasons went. To abandon them or lose all hope already is weak to me…that’s my whole
Point.

If they do fail to make the tourney (certainly is a possibility), and the powers that be think we need to make a change, I’ll support that coach/team as well. I have zero control over that. I do have control over being a supportive fan. If people can’t do that now, I don’t want to see them when we are winning 25+ games…whenever that may happen.

 

[dksooner]

Exactly this. I completely bought into this season after being down on Moser during the summer. Hell I even bought me and my family tickets to see OU play Vanderbilt. I wanted to believe it would be different. I thought maybe it would be. But it’s the same thing as the last three years. Moser finally gets a good crowd with a real shot of building momentum in the fan base and boom. Disappointment.

I remember watching football with my dad when I was younger. You know, 2007-2012, when OU was a lot of fun to watch. He would tell me about how I should enjoy the success because he had to suffer through the Blake years to get there. I hope that’ll be me someday. Suffering through the Moser years but eventually OU basketball gets there.

I was there, not a good crowd. I'd say decent.

 

[WichitaSooner]

You got me there. Porter is too high wired for me.

Look, I’m not as much of a PM fan as I am a OU b-ball fan. I can’t imagine just not watching, regardless of who the coach is…even if you were coaching…I would watch. Of the 8 players who played significant minutes last night, 6 of them are new to the team this year and are giving their all. The other two are true Sooners who want to be here. Moore could have easily left and found a home somewhere, but he chose to come back and had improved his game. They deserve our support, regardless of what you or anyone thinks about the coach. The two injured players are also new to the team, so yeah, I refuse to lump them in with the past 3 teams that PM has coached. Most of them had nothing to do with how those seasons went. To abandon them or lose all hope already is weak to me…that’s my whole
Point.

If they do fail to make the tourney (certainly is a possibility), and the powers that be think we need to make a change, I’ll support that coach/team as well. I have zero control over that. I do have control over being a supportive fan. If people can’t do that now, I don’t want to see them when we are winning 25+ games…whenever that may happen.

Why are you directing that to me? I watch every second of every game.

 

[cvangild]

Why are you directing that to me? I watch every second of every game.

I wasn’t..I was explaining myself on the comment I made to the other poster..that you felt the need to comment on.

 

[snydrosooner]

I was there, not a good crowd. I'd say decent.

attended games in person since 1996 and now season ticket holder, that was a great OU bball crowd for an 8pm game for an opponent not named Tx, KU, or OSU. If that was a Saturday game it would better attendance. And many students were still out. Yea , you can say it was not full and should be, but reality is that was a great crowd for that game.

 

[BoulderSooner]

attended games in person since 1996 and now season ticket holder, that was a great OU bball crowd for an 8pm game for an opponent not named Tx, KU, or OSU. If that was a Saturday game it would better attendance. And many students were still out. Yea , you can say it was not full and should be, but reality is that was a great crowd for that game.

for about 20 years every conf home game had 10k + ... and ranked OU home games were pretty much always sold out ..