Can you guys explain some Trump things to me?

[steverocks35]

and when they reopen like the US has, they will see spikes again

Not if they've done a good job at reducing the incidence of the virus in the community to close to zero and their citizens take masking and social distancing seriously.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Let's look at the data shall we. I have the spreadsheet if anyone is interested

New York and New Jersey account for 35% of all US deaths.
Democratic states (governors) account for 71% of the deaths.
8 of the top 10 highest death per capita are Democrat stats (with the 2 being Massachusetts and Maryland)
New York and New Jersey both have had .18% of their population die while FLorida has had .02%

I could go on

The republican governors seem to be the only ones getting heat for their responses.
These numbers will likely change and even out and I think it is logical that democratic states will be higher due to larger cities are liberal. But the desparity in the coverage between states is mind blowing.

 

[steverocks35]

Let's look at the data shall we. I have the spreadsheet if anyone is interested

New York and New Jersey account for 35% of all US deaths.
Democratic states (governors) account for 71% of the deaths.
8 of the top 10 highest death per capita are Democrat stats (with the 2 being Massachusetts and Maryland)
New York and New Jersey both have had .18% of their population die while FLorida has had .02%

I could go on

The republican governors seem to be the only ones getting heat for their responses.
These numbers will likely change and even out and I think it is logical that democratic states will be higher due to larger cities are liberal. But the desparity in the coverage between states is mind blowing.

100% of the deaths occurred in a country with a Republican president.

 

[WTSooner]

100% of the deaths occurred in a country with a Republican president.

A country that typically allows the STATES to govern their people.

You guys are something else.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

100% of the deaths occurred in a country with a Republican president.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'd expect nothing less. Thank you for not dissappointing

 

[WTSooner]

100% of the deaths occurred in a country with a Republican president.

You keep comparing us to the EU, but I'm pretty sure those countries were governing themselves, not looking at the EU for blanket protection and guidance.

 

[steverocks35]

A country that typically allows the STATES to govern their people.

You guys are something else.

Making the states go it alone during a pandemic is exactly one of the reasons our response has been a tragic failure. They were bidding against each other for PPE and ventilators!

 

[steverocks35]

You keep comparing us to the EU, but I'm pretty sure those countries were governing themselves, not looking at the EU for blanket protection and guidance.

Yeah you’re wrong about that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_response_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic

 

[sheepdogs1]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'd expect nothing less. Thank you for not dissappointing

I believe we all are responsible for what occurs in this country be it good or bad. Finger pointers are lacking in character among other things.

 

[steverocks35]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'd expect nothing less. Thank you for not dissappointing

It’s so funny that I told the truth and put some responsibility on the actual leader of the country! LOLOLOLOLOL

 

[steverocks35]

I believe we all are responsible for what occurs in this country be it good or bad. Finger pointers are lacking in character among other things.

He was pointing fingers at democratic governors.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

It’s so funny that I told the truth and put some responsibility on the actual leader of the country! LOLOLOLOLOL

So you have never criticized Stitt for his response?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

He was pointing fingers at democratic governors.

No, I was posting stats. Stats don't lie. Liberal states have far more deaths than non liberal states.

If you want to criticize Trump for everything, then I don't want to see any criticism about DeSantos, Stitt,etc.

If the governors are fair game, then I should be able to point out that liberal states have faired worse.

You can't have it both ways

 

[steverocks35]

So you have never criticized Stitt for his response?

Of course I have, but he was following the lead of his cult leader. And I’ve also criticized Bill de Blasio and praised Mike DeWine and Ted Cruz. But the failure for this goes all the way to the top.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Of course I have, but he was following the lead of his cult leader. And I’ve also criticized Bill de Blasio and praised Mike DeWine and Ted Cruz. But the failure for this goes all the way to the top.

So governors are responsible...got it.

Democratic led states are fairing much worse than republican led states.
Do you think that Cuomo and others give a flying flip what Trump says? No, they are doing what they want with this pandemic. They are making the choices of when to open and when to close.

 

[steverocks35]

So governors are responsible...got it.

Democratic led states are fairing much worse than republican led states.
Do you think that Cuomo and others give a flying flip what Trump says? No, they are doing what they want with this pandemic. They are making the choices of when to open and when to close.

You are conflating two different time periods, there were the early days of the pandemic when little was known and we were all flying blind, that’s when it hit hardest in New York, New Jersey and Washington, we barely had testing and treatment was in its infancy, and now, when we know that masks should be required and social distancing is a must.

There’s a huge difference in the two time frames.

 

[sheepdogs1]

So governors are responsible...got it.

Democratic led states are fairing much worse than republican led states.
Do you think that Cuomo and others give a flying flip what Trump says? No, they are doing what they want with this pandemic. They are making the choices of when to open and when to close.

And as stated before, states which flaunt their power and allow ganja to become legal within the state's borders is something the federal government is hand tied, especially when it occurs among numerous states.

 

[steverocks35]

And as stated before, states which flaunt their power and allow ganja to become legal within the state's borders is something the federal government is hand tied, especially when it occurs among numerous states.

Nobody knows what you’re talking about.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

You are conflating two different time periods, there were the early days of the pandemic when little was known and we were all flying blind, that’s when it hit hardest in New York, New Jersey and Washington, we barely had testing and treatment was in its infancy, and now, when we know that masks should be required and social distancing is a must.

There’s a huge difference in the two time frames.

Pretty convenient!
Who would have known without experience that it was a bad idea to put infected people in nursing homes? I'm glad we know better now

 

[steverocks35]

Pretty convenient!
Who would have known without experience that it was a bad idea to put infected people in nursing homes? I'm glad we know better now

By convenient you mean true? Because it’s true.

Anything to deflect blame from your cult leader.