Casey Arent

[Seymore Cox]

Apparently he is coaching at Findley Prep in Vegas. Can this help us with there studs?


I have been pleased with Kruger's recruiting, but I am mythes by not being able to close the deal on a few of the Oklahoma kids and by not getting some good prospects from Vegas.

 

[AdaSooner]

Apparently he is coaching at Findley Prep in Vegas. Can this help us with there studs?
I have been pleased with Kruger's recruiting, but I am mythes by not being able to close the deal on a few of the Oklahoma kids and by not getting some good prospects from Vegas.

Not if he reads this board.

 

[CoachTalk]

We'll have a hard time getting kids from Findlay.

 

[j2d2]

Too many Oklahoma kids just want to leave the state.

 

[CoachTalk]

Apparently he is coaching at Findley Prep in Vegas. Can this help us with there studs?


I have been pleased with Kruger's recruiting, but I am mythes by not being able to close the deal on a few of the Oklahoma kids and by not getting some good prospects from Vegas.

Just because they are oklahoma kids doesnt mean they want to go to an OK school. Vegas to norman ok is drastic. Lot of those guys want handouts, OU isnt going to handout jobs etc...

I think LK is doing a mighty fine job.

 

[DenverSooner]

We'll have a hard time getting kids from Findlay.

Why do you say that?

 

[CoachTalk]

Why do you say that?

I just think its a shady institution. LK tends to stay away unless they know they know exactly what they are getting. that also goes along with these are hoops factories a lot of 5 star kids.

We all know its going to be extremely hard to get 5* kids here. LK tends to stay away or not waste a lot of time with UK, Duke, etc...

 

[MisterF]

Lon is doing a great job. He has had to fight a lot...program in the gutter, no fan interest(but building), not in a recruiting hot bed. And he has OU in top 15 and climbing!!

 

[hoopsaustin]

That's cool.. that'd be awesome if it paid off even one time

 

[MenderofRoads]

Too many Oklahoma kids just want to leave the state.

I don't mean this as a shot at Oklahoma, but if you grew up there and had options, why would you stay? Unless you grow up a die-hard fan, leaving is the easier choice. Maybe even the logical one.

The same is true for most places, especially in the midwest. Certainly it's true in Missouri. (The list of kids we've lost in the past decade is sickening.)

Kids fly all over the country for AAU tournaments as teens, then they take visits to several schools. Home very quickly loses its luster. Especially in a state with two major-conference teams, it's going to be hard to build that die-hard loyalty with top recruits until you start winning big (conference championships, final fours, etc).

 

[bigredrl]

That is a shot! I moved here 41 years ago from Texas and I wouldn't move anywhere else. So, I take exception to your remark! Ignorance is bliss!

 

[StatGeek]

I don't mean this as a shot at Oklahoma, but if you grew up there and had options, why would you stay? Unless you grow up a die-hard fan, leaving is the easier choice. Maybe even the logical one.

The same is true for most places, especially in the midwest. Certainly it's true in Missouri. (The list of kids we've lost in the past decade is sickening.)

Kids fly all over the country for AAU tournaments as teens, then they take visits to several schools. Home very quickly loses its luster. Especially in a state with two major-conference teams, it's going to be hard to build that die-hard loyalty with top recruits until you start winning big (conference championships, final fours, etc).

This is straight garbage and reeks of ignorance.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Every recruit is unique, and whatever compels them to select a particular school is as variable as human beings. Isaiah Cousins was not a 5* recruit, but the New York City area product sure looks good in Norman, Oklahoma.

Some players do stay In-State. Looking at the top career scorers in OU history, 6 of the top 8 went to high school in Oklahoma.

2,661 points ... Waymon Tisdale (Tulsa)
2,281 points ... Jeff Webster (Midwest City)
2,275 points ... Tim McCalister ... Indiana
2,097 points ... Darryl “Choo” Kennedy (Oklahoma City)
2,008 points ... Stacey King (Lawton)
1,946 points ... Ryan Minor (Hammon)
1,821 points ... Hollis Price ... New Orleans
1,707 points ... Alvan Adams (Oklahoma City)

 

[MenderofRoads]

Or you could spend your entire life in Oklahoma. That'd be cool, too.

There's nothing wrong with Oklahoma or anywhere else. If you like it, great. But if you grow up there and have no personal affinity for the school, there's no reason to stay. It's a big world. Kids owe it to themselves to go see it. No one should expect more loyalty from an in-state kid than anyone else.

Ideally, you'd have kids growing up dreaming of playing for the state school. Realistically, that doesn't happen with everyone, especially when you're a program like all but a handful that experiences natural ups and downs.

No one's saying Oklahoma's a dump and all kids should get out as soon as possible. Just don't expect them to want to stay there because you like it.

 

[sperry]

Everything mender of roads is saying is accurate.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

I get what Mender is saying....I grew up in Oklahoma and love Oklahoma (and OU) but I moved away when I went to college and never moved back....I haven't set foot in Oklahoma in well over 10 years....love it there but I love other places as well.

I live in North Carolina now and really like it here too (actually reminds me a lot of Oklahoma in a sense).........when I left Oklahoma I really wanted to see the world a little bit.....lived in Michigan, Kansas, Texas and North Carolina....love Oklahoma and would live there again under the right circumstances but wouldn't be my first choice now. If I had my druthers I'd prefer to live on the beach somewhere where I could sit and listen to the waves at night and relax with a cold drink...fortunate enough now to be working a job where that could be a possibility in a couple of years.....

 

[CoachTalk]

I get what Mender is saying....I grew up in Oklahoma and love Oklahoma (and OU) but I moved away when I went to college and never moved back....I haven't set foot in Oklahoma in well over 10 years....love it there but I love other places as well.

I live in North Carolina now and really like it here too (actually reminds me a lot of Oklahoma in a sense).........when I left Oklahoma I really wanted to see the world a little bit.....lived in Michigan, Kansas, Texas and North Carolina....love Oklahoma and would live there again under the right circumstances but wouldn't be my first choice now. If I had my druthers I'd prefer to live on the beach somewhere where I could sit and listen to the waves at night and relax with a cold drink...fortunate enough now to be working a job where that could be a possibility in a couple of years.....

Need any help?

 

[thebigabd]

I agree with Mender completely... the allure of getting to move somewhere else for free is pretty strong for an 18 year old.. A normal high school student looks at out-of-state tuition and is immediately unable to go. But these guys get free room and board and can just look at a map and pick a place.

I have lived in Tulsa, Colorado Springs area, and Denver area... I love all 3 for different reasons, but if I was an 18 year old high school kid and could pick any state I want to live in for free for 4-5 years, I would leave home for sure.

 

[Stikboy]

You are waaaaay underplaying how homesick many of these kids can get, how close they are to their mothers, and how important their parents easily getting to see them play is. Sure, as adults we look at it differently... But there's a reason a famous coach said when it comes to recruiting.. Location, location, location.

 

[sperry]

You are waaaaay underplaying how homesick many of these kids can get, how close they are to their mothers, and how important their parents easily getting to see them play is. Sure, as adults we look at it differently... But there's a reason a famous coach said when it comes to recruiting.. Location, location, location.

It's definitely a thing, but these elite AAU kids are used to jet setting all over the country. Not like football kids, many of whom have probably never left their home state before they take official visits.