Clarke to OU, Announcement tomorrow

[WTSooner]

but even by himself he is a better player than Clarke

Right now? Today? No, he isn't.

And we still might have room for other recruits. I could easily see Blair or Newell transferring under the right conditions.

 

[WTSooner]

Yawn and sigh... Lets all sit back and watch the 3-balls fly, while the rest of the team waits for the pass that never happens.

Why would you NOT want Clarke firing up 3's if he hits them at the rate he did in Arkansas the last two years?

As for passing, he averaged nearly the same number of assists per game as Cade did last year. Was Cade a "ball hog"?

 

[garyeb2]

Since My participation on this message board began 2/3 months ago,I've read post that I simply can not understand. This Rotnie Clarke thread is a perfect example. The facts are that The Program is at it's lowest ebb in 40 years. Now, Capel certainly mis-managed many area's of his responsibility. Some of that mis-management has manifested itself in the reality that many of the other conference teams have ended up with better players than O.U. Kruer's job is to fix that. Now, Clarke comes along. He was a starter for a winning team in a BCS conference. He posseses a very unique set of skills. There is a crop of brand new "hot" prospects thay come along every year. Players that can do what Clarke can do come along much less frequently than that. It would benifit people to read something besides this message board. Clarke, for the most part, is not athletic enough to create his own shot. Most of his production occurs when he is coming off a screen. In other words, the Coach calls a play to get him open because the Coach thinks that is their best opportunity to get a basket. He isn't capable of being a ball hog that dismantles a team. He just makes baskets when he can get his shot off. We need that.

 

[Cleavon Little]

Since My participation on this message board began 2/3 months ago,I've read post that I simply can not understand. This Rotnie Clarke thread is a perfect example. The facts are that The Program is at it's lowest ebb in 40 years. Now, Capel certainly mis-managed many area's of his responsibility. Some of that mis-management has manifested itself in the reality that many of the other conference teams have ended up with better players than O.U. Kruer's job is to fix that. Now, Clarke comes along. He was a starter for a winning team in a BCS conference. He posseses a very unique set of skills. There is a crop of brand new "hot" prospects thay come along every year. Players that can do what Clarke can do come along much less frequently than that. It would benifit people to read something besides this message board. Clarke, for the most part, is not athletic enough to create his own shot. Most of his production occurs when he is coming off a screen. In other words, the Coach calls a play to get him open because the Coach thinks that is their best opportunity to get a basket. He isn't capable of being a ball hog that dismantles a team. He just makes baskets when he can get his shot off. We need that.

For someone who just got here 2/3 months ago it might "benifit" you to not suggest that people who have been here longer than you only get their info from this board. That's mighty big talk from a newcomer. Also, your post seems to suggest that Clarke isn't athletic enough to create his own shot and that his entire reputation comes from Pelphrey setting up screens for him. If that's not a weird way of explaining things, I don't know what is. I'm not going to get into why he had the reputation he does, but I suspect you know why and are ready to minimize it in your joy at his coming to OU. I'm prepared to do the same in the interest of fairness and positivity for the future.

I sincerely hope he has a great experience at OU and think he will help the team. Welcome aboard to both Clarke, and garyeb.

 

[garyeb2]

WHOE NELLIE ! Let me dispel a fallacy right now. Participation on this message board, length of participation on this message board, number of post on this message board in no way what so ever is an indication of basketball knowlege or expertise. While their are many many quite well informed participants, their participation here is not a validation of their expertise, but, merely a matter of coincedence. Their are plenty of other venues for people to share their thoughts and opinons. However, there are just as many that want to spend all day argueing some point of view and they haven't done one bit reasearch or have one point of reference to validate their veiw. They just pull something out their butt and call in fact. The internet is a wonderfull thing, if you just use it. And by the way, I'm old enough not be be a "newcomer" to anything.

 

[seniorsooner]

I know more basketball than you

 

[campbest]

Since My participation on this message board began 2/3 months ago,I've read post that I simply can not understand. This Rotnie Clarke thread is a perfect example. The facts are that The Program is at it's lowest ebb in 40 years. Now, Capel certainly mis-managed many area's of his responsibility. Some of that mis-management has manifested itself in the reality that many of the other conference teams have ended up with better players than O.U. Kruer's job is to fix that. Now, Clarke comes along. He was a starter for a winning team in a BCS conference. He posseses a very unique set of skills. There is a crop of brand new "hot" prospects thay come along every year. Players that can do what Clarke can do come along much less frequently than that. It would benifit people to read something besides this message board. Clarke, for the most part, is not athletic enough to create his own shot. Most of his production occurs when he is coming off a screen. In other words, the Coach calls a play to get him open because the Coach thinks that is their best opportunity to get a basket. He isn't capable of being a ball hog that dismantles a team. He just makes baskets when he can get his shot off. We need that.

2009: 14-16; 2-14
2010: 14-18; 7-9
2011: 18-13; 7-9

All in the pathetic SEC West.

However, there are just as many that want to spend all day argueing some point of view and they haven't done one bit reasearch or have one point of reference to validate their veiw. They just pull something out their butt and call in fact.

Gotcha.

 

[garyeb2]

I know more basketball than you

You might. But, it has nothing to do with anything you picked up on a message board.

 

[garyeb2]

2009: 14-16; 2-14
2010: 14-18; 7-9
2011: 18-13; 7-9

All in the pathetic SEC West.



Gotcha.

They did win last season and that was my reference. But, you do have a point. If you are willing to forget about the recent record of the team we are talking about him transfering to.

 

[bgrch1350]

If this is true...good for OU! But I will guarantee one thing, if Clarke does come here, he won't be the best player on this team. We have Osby and cameron CLARK who will be the focal points on this team. He's going to have to beat out Pledger for the starting spot which I believe will be easier said then done. But Clarke is an automatic contributor to a veteran(senior lead) team that should be top 15 in College basketball that year. Not to mention we will at least have 2 more scholarships to give out in next years class.

 

[daqman]

If this is true...good for OU! But I will guarantee one thing, if Clarke does come here, he won't be the best player on this team. We have Osby and cameron CLARK who will be the focal points on this team. He's going to have to beat out Pledger for the starting spot which I believe will be easier said then done. But Clarke is an automatic contributor to a veteran(senior lead) team that should be top 15 in College basketball that year. Not to mention we will at least have 2 more scholarships to give out in next years class.

that's some lofty expectations right there

 

[vbdad]

He will be the best shooter on the team. I trust Coach Kruger's opinion over all of ours.

It will be interesting to see how the holdovers are used next year.

 

[skyvue]

WHOE NELLIE ! Let me dispel a fallacy right now. Participation on this message board, length of participation on this message board, number of post on this message board in no way what so ever is an indication of basketball knowlege or expertise.

It appears that, in your rush to further pontificate, you entirely missed the point of the post to which you were responding.

What Cleavon was suggesting is that a newcomer -- any newcomer -- to this site is not in a position to assess the depth and breadth of the basketball knowledge and general wisdom of other posters, especially those who have been a long time and have already established "poster's equity" with the community. As a newcomer, you've not yet spent enough time here to presume anything about other posters, including what sources they might rely upon in forming their opinions. You simply don't know them well enough to leap to those conclusions.

Finally, I would strongly encourage you, if you're going to display going forward the kind of arrogance and superior attitude that you've exhibited in this thread, to find a text application in which to compose your screeds that includes a quality spell-check feature. No one likes to be lectured, but being lectured by someone whose posts are rife with typos is particularly galling.

 

[daqman]

He will be the best shooter on the team. I trust Coach Kruger's opinion over all of ours.

It will be interesting to see how the holdovers are used next year.

yup.
there will be much more important and entertaining issues in the future for fans to question/doubt kruger's coaching abilities.

 

[MNsooner]

It appears that, in your rush to further pontificate, you entirely missed the point of the post to which you were responding.

What Cleavon was suggesting is that a newcomer -- any newcomer -- to this site is not in a position to assess the depth and breadth of the basketball knowledge and general wisdom of other posters, especially those who have been a long time and have already established "poster's equity" with the community. As a newcomer, you've not yet spent enough time here to presume anything about other posters, including what sources they might rely upon in forming their opinions. You simply don't know them well enough to leap to those conclusions.

Finally, I would strongly encourage you, if you're going to display going forward the kind of arrogance and superior attitude that you've exhibited in this thread, to find a text application in which to compose your screeds that includes a quality spell-check feature. No one likes to be lectured, but being lectured by someone whose posts are rife with typos is particularly galling.

Written like a true writer

 

[lk2183]

It appears that, in your rush to further pontificate, you entirely missed the point of the post to which you were responding.

What Cleavon was suggesting is that a newcomer -- any newcomer -- to this site is not in a position to assess the depth and breadth of the basketball knowledge and general wisdom of other posters, especially those who have been a long time and have already established "poster's equity" with the community. As a newcomer, you've not yet spent enough time here to presume anything about other posters, including what sources they might rely upon in forming their opinions. You simply don't know them well enough to leap to those conclusions.

Finally, I would strongly encourage you, if you're going to display going forward the kind of arrogance and superior attitude that you've exhibited in this thread, to find a text application in which to compose your screeds that includes a quality spell-check feature. No one likes to be lectured, but being lectured by someone whose posts are rife with typos is particularly galling.

:clap

 

[garyeb2]

Well actually, I wasn't trying to lecture everyone. Only the ones that have taken strong positions that they could not defend with any data. And when pressed, it was obvious that they had not done any homework. And if you are so confident in your base of knowledge, why do you assume that I am talking to you? I have taken three really stong positions on the board. First was that Blair isnt any good and Grooms will beat him out. Second it was that Fitz was so inept at the post last season, Arent will get the job. And recently, it was that Clarke would be better than the guards from last years team. I have caught grief on all three of those positions. The only place in the world that could happen is on this message board. My positions are considered universal truths outside of this closed community. So either the posters are right and the majority is wrong. Or, there are some people on here talking about basketball that don't have the first clue. Take Pledger for example. I had a well respected Oklahoma college coach tell me that there were at least 6 guards every year coming out of Oklahoma high schools that were better prospects and had a chance to be a better player than Pledger. And that Capel was stupid for recruiting him. I like my source. The posters that say different are probably wrong. And so it goes. And if someone want to slam me on typo's, that tells me you don't have much to say about basketball.

 

[Tony]

I have taken three really stong positions on the board. First was that Blair isnt any good and Grooms will beat him out. Second it was that Fitz was so inept at the post last season, Arent will get the job. And recently, it was that Clarke would be better than the guards from last years team. I have caught grief on all three of those positions. The only place in the world that could happen is on this message board. My positions are considered universal truths outside of this closed community.

:ez-laugh:

 

[mattham4]

My positions are considered universal truths outside of this closed community.

:ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll:

 

[NickZepp]

gary you are an idiot. We don't know how good Grooms is or if he'll beat out Blair. Anyone that says anything about that with certainty is an idiot. Fitz was a solid post last year. He was just forced to do more than he was really capable of because of what we had. He is probably a better fit with the current roster if Osby is really good. Rontei Clarke is a good guard on some bad teams. They were really not any better than OU/ I don't know if he's better than Osby will be or Pledger or Cam Clark, or Fitzgerald by next year. But he'll definitely fit on the roster and give us a really talented base next year.