Consensus Bubble Watch

[SoonerBounce13]

In re: "And what are the predictions based on?"

Margin of victory. Games/minutes without injured/suspended players.

what about margin of loses? b/c you know, we have less of those.

I'm not discrediting the BPI b/c I don't know anything about it. But I find it extremely odd that something used as a prediction of what will happen has osu ahead of OU. I just am struggling to see what variables go into the formula to have an output favoring OsU.

 

[Section31]

You don't have to bet on a team. You just have to bet on whether or not the comments you called asinine were asinine. That is, whether Oklahoma St. would be favored if we played again.

Who was favored in the first two meetings? Spread? How did the games play out?

You misinterpreted my use of the term RPI rankings page to assume I was placing all of my eggs into the RPI rankings themselves and that wasn't what I said or implied.

 

[Section31]

Spreads are better than BPI or Sagarin, because they're a prediction of the outcome of the game that the predictor stands to lose money on if he's wrong.

When people don't have anything at stake (like you), they're much more free to make inaccurate predictions.

Again, that's really not the case. There's a lot that goes into spread as I've heard bookies on the radio state on numerous occasions.

 

[CarlWeathers]

Why would you say any other year the Big XII is the third or fourth best conference. The Big XII/Big 8 is consistently one of the top major conferences not one of the weakest major conferences. The conference has been down the last few years but it roared back this year and it wasn't that down just OU, OSU and Texas were down a bit.

You're right I'm just remembering when the big east, acc, and big ten were considered on par or slightly better than the big 12. Or that's what espn used to say. We've always been one of the best but the talking heads usually put on or two of those conferences ahead of ours.

 

[steverocks35]

Embid played when OSU beat them. He played 29 minutes according to OSU website.

You're correct, not Embiid-less but certainly listless and uninterested.

 

[Kewllane]

You're correct, not Embiid-less but certainly listless and uninterested.

Embiid left with a few minutes to go in that game because he injured his back (Hasn't played since if I'm remembering right). He didn't get to play when the game was close in the closing minutes.

 

[oSuJeff97]

I was looking over Lunardi's "bracketology" brackets, they don't make much sense. He has OU as a 5 seed playing in Spokane and Texas as a 6 seed playing in San Antonio. Why would a 6 seed get to play a de facto home game and a 5 seed get shipped all the way to Spokane?

For the same reason that OSU (5 seed) had to play Oregon (12 seed) on the West Coast last year when it would have been very easy to just flip OSU with the lowest 5-seed... once you get outside of the top 4 seeds, the committee rarely (if ever) considers geography.

It's more about fulfilling the other criteria that they have to follow when seeding along the S-curve.

It means that some of the higher seeds on the 5-8 lines will get "screwed," geographically speaking, and some lower seeds on the 9-12 lines will get unfairly "rewarded."

 

[steverocks35]

For the same reason that OSU (5 seed) had to play Oregon (12 seed) on the West Coast last year when it would have been very easy to just flip OSU with the lowest 5-seed... once you get outside of the top 4 seeds, the committee rarely (if ever) considers geography.

It's more about fulfilling the other criteria that they have to follow when seeding along the S-curve.

It means that some of the higher seeds on the 5-8 lines will get "screwed," geographically speaking, and some lower seeds on the 9-12 lines will get unfairly "rewarded."

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[DenverSooner]

Tulsa made it. Anyone have an updated list of conference champions?

 

[DenverSooner]

I found it:

Gonzaga - West Coast
North Dakota State - Summit
American -Patriot
Eastern Kentucky - Ohio Valley
Mount St. Mary's - Northeast
Wichita State - Missouri Valley
Manhattan - Metro Atlantic
Milwaukee - Horizon
Tulsa - CUSA
Delaware - Colonial
Coastal Carolina - Big South
Albany - America East