Flagrant foul on Blake last night

[dubyac]

3 game suspension? It should have just been a regular personal foul. All he did was run in a straight line and put his body on a guy who dunks all over everyone. Jason Smith made a hell of a play to get all the way back down the court and stop the dunk.

That exact same kind of play happens in SOCCER every couple of minutes. Running through the ball, through the man with the ball, through the play. Happens in soccer all the time. Somebody gets knocked down in basketball and these 6'11'' 260 pound freaks cant take it, lol.

Funny how the offensive player can be totally out of control, jump into a defender on the break, put his knee/body in his nuts, stomach, chest, etc, and totally run him over and its just a charge. Defensive player runs through the play and he gets ejected. See the problem here? Some charges are much more violent than this play, and its just a regular foul.

I knew it.. completely invalidates everything you have ever, or will ever post...

 

[thebigabd]

Are you really comparing basketball to soccer? That is just wrong.

Lol, im just saying that soccer has a reputation for being a weenie sports and crap worse than that happens several times a game.

A regular personal foul? Not even an intentional or flagrant? now you are trolling

Yep, regular personal foul. That was about 1/10th as violent as a lot of charges in the NBA when the player goes up for a big dunk on the break.

 

[skyvue]

That was about 1/10th as violent as a lot of charges in the NBA when the player goes up for a big dunk on the break.

The difference is intent. The offensive player has a legitimate goal in mind, and that's getting to the basket and scoring. If a player charged without the ball -- just plowed through a defender in the paint with no purpose but to get him out of the way for his teammate who had the ball -- you'd likely see a similar call.

 

[hoopsaustin]

3 game suspension? It should have just been a regular personal foul. All he did was run in a straight line and put his body on a guy who dunks all over everyone. Jason Smith made a hell of a play to get all the way back down the court and stop the dunk.

That exact same kind of play happens in SOCCER every couple of minutes. Running through the ball, through the man with the ball, through the play. Happens in soccer all the time. Somebody gets knocked down in basketball and these 6'11'' 260 pound freaks cant take it, lol.

Funny how the offensive player can be totally out of control, jump into a defender on the break, put his knee/body in his nuts, stomach, chest, etc, and totally run him over and its just a charge. Defensive player runs through the play and he gets ejected. See the problem here? Some charges are much more violent than this play, and its just a regular foul.

what are you talking about? if you ran through a player like that in soccer it would have gotten a yellow card (especially if your still holding that the player was about to score)

the play was so weird i dont know what jason smith was thinking.. that looked nothing like basketball.. quit being a skip bayless and trying to be provocative

 

[hoopsaustin]

The difference is intent. The offensive player has a legitimate goal in mind, and that's getting to the basket and scoring. If a player charged without the ball -- just plowed through a defender in the paint with no purpose but to get him out of the way for his teammate who had the ball -- you'd likely see a similar call.

BINGO.... nothing pisses me off more than when someone is making a perfectly fine "basketball move" (not like this one) and the player's falling hard gets the flagrant that pisses me off

 

[miesvander]

It's really too bad Smith got ejected from the game. Kids learn not to pull this crap early when they play basketball on the playgrounds. If a kids does something like this on the playground, then very soon afterward the kid that got hurt has a friend get some payback. Smith should have been laid out and then put on the disabled list for week or two. Smith is a punk that needs to learn some playground rules.

 

[MsProudSooner]

A poke's take:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=181&f=2336&t=8840482

 

[schoonerdriver]

A poke's take:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=181&f=2336&t=8840482

:eddie187_jpg_xs:

 

[Sawyer]

I have no problem with Smith doing what he did. Hard fouls (even those with no attempt at the ball) have a place in the sport... to an extent. I hate seeing guys just let players score because they're afraid to commit a hard foul.

That said, I also have no problem with the call and a few game suspension. The rule is pretty clear, and it was obviously a flagrant foul.

IMO basketball needs players to play with this kind of physical attitude every now and then, and it also needs officials who call it correctly to keep things under control.

 

[DenverSooner]

I have no problem with Smith doing what he did. Hard fouls (even those with no attempt at the ball) have a place in the sport... to an extent. I hate seeing guys just let players score because they're afraid to commit a hard foul.

That said, I also have no problem with the call and a few game suspension. The rule is pretty clear, and it was obviously a flagrant foul.

IMO basketball needs players to play with this kind of physical attitude every now and then, and it also needs officials who call it correctly to keep things under control.

What if he injures someone to the point they have to retire? That is the problem with cheap shots. The ones that don't cause injury are easy to dismiss but if he takes aways Griffin's career it cannot be undone.

The suspension is about right but if a guy gets too many (and I am not sure what too many is) I think he should be kicked out of the league for a really long time and possibly forever.

 

[Sawyer]

Has a guy ever had a career-ending injury come from a flagrant foul like that?

It's not like he went Kermit Washington on Griffin. He knocked him to the floor. If he'd just taken a swipe at the ball while doing it, he probably wouldn't have even been ejected.