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They both already got hurt. Multiple times.

As with most of your statements, this is blatantly false. Blaylock experienced one injury. Believe it or not, experiencing an injury does not continue in perpetuity. But even if it does, we don't havs all our eggs in 1 RB. There will be at least 5 or 6 on our roster, and they should have more holes to run through.

I'd challenge you to find any evidence that we have had any good RBs the past two seasons, let alone good freshmen RBs...if your theory is true that in order to have good careers at OU, guys need to be good as freshmen, we definitely shouldn't expect much from them.

X has had elite quality games against Ole Miss, Alabama, and Tennessee already in his career, so it's obnoxious to pretend he's not capable of high quality play. He's literally proven it.

As for Blaylock not being a contributor, he was our leading rusher and all-SEC freshman team, so clearly he contributed. You even said multiple times he's our best back. I don't agree that he was better than X, but if he has more room to run with improved blocking, he has the potential to have an elite season.

And what was the reason we were constantly given for why X didn't play the first two months last year? Because DeMarco and crew didn't feel like he was "ready."

He said this himself. Again, if all we get from Hatton is a November starter that gets 5 YPC like X did, we'll be just fine. I would be very surprised if both Blaylock and X went down before September was over. We also have Avant, who looks to be a quality change of pace back that should get more work than Ott and Tatum, whose fan club you seem to run free of charge.

Let's also stop trying to forget that Blaylock was ready from day 1 of the season as a true freshman.
 
As with most of your statements, this is blatantly false. Blaylock experienced one injury. Believe it or not, experiencing an injury does not continue in perpetuity. But even if it does, we don't havs all our eggs in 1 RB. There will be at least 5 or 6 on our roster, and they should have more holes to run through.



X has had elite quality games against Ole Miss, Alabama, and Tennessee already in his career, so it's obnoxious to pretend he's not capable of high quality play. He's literally proven it.

As for Blaylock not being a contributor, he was our leading rusher and all-SEC freshman team, so clearly he contributed. You even said multiple times he's our best back. I don't agree that he was better than X, but if he has more room to run with improved blocking, he has the potential to have an elite season.



He said this himself. Again, if all we get from Hatton is a November starter that gets 5 YPC like X did, we'll be just fine. I would be very surprised if both Blaylock and X went down before September was over. We also have Avant, who looks to be a quality change of pace back that should get more work than Ott and Tatum, whose fan club you seem to run free of charge.

Let's also stop trying to forget that Blaylock was ready from day 1 of the season as a true freshman.
Wow, three games in two seasons! I guess if you are satisfied with someone who has shown they can be really good once every few games, that's fine. I kind of prefer players who produce on a regular basis. I guess we should have all felt great about Sam Godwin since he showed against OSU that he was "capable of quality play."

Every team has a leading rusher. That doesn't mean that person is good, especially when his YPC numbers were terrible in games that were anything other than glorified scrimmages. Choosing between him and X is tough. They are both guys who should be battling it out to be RB2. On a team with a legit lead back, the two of them would ideally combine for about 10-12 carries per game to spell the starter. I don't consider either of them to be as bad a runner as Barnes, but I also don't think either of them has shown themselves remotely capable of being an above average starting SEC back.

And if you think I am a fan of Ott and Tatum, you obviously must have scored poorly on the reading comprehension portions of every standardized test you ever took. What I said was that there is no rational person who would argue that a change-of-pace G5 back and an incoming freshman are as talented as the two aforementioned guys. In other words, our room is less talented now than it was leading into this season. And yet even with that talent, through a combination of poor coaching, injuries, and poor performance, we were one of the worst teams in the nation running the ball. Better blocking will help. It will not make Blaylock suddenly able to make guys miss in space. It won't help us turn 5 yards into 10, or 10 into 20, the way all truly great backs do.

We have done very well (seemingly) at several positions the past two days. That doesn't mean we shouldn't also look to upgrade a position that has been terrible for two years.

While we are here, we should pour one out for Gibson now that he is in the portal. He joins a long line of OU offensive players who have been hyped beyond belief by every OU writer/podcast host the past few years, only to disappear once the games start. And like the other Gibson, Anderson, and several other guys the past three years, he seems to be evidence that at least for OU, injured guys rarely return to form. I don't know why that is. NFL players frequently return from devastating injuries and get back on track. Our guys get hurt, come back, and are a shell of what they were (or allegedly were in spring ball).
 
WR depth is looking good so far, depending on who else departs. Well, a lot better than it did two days ago. Hoping we can get one more WR and one of the young guys is good. Hopefully QB works on his game and has a good year.

College football is insane. Signing day is no longer huge as compared to portal signings. Crazy that so many players (and coaches) are willing to sign with their rivals. That was severe treason not long ago.
 
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In other words, our room is less talented now than it was leading into this season.

It's genuinely hilarious that you continue to say our RB room got less talented after the departure of an upperclassmen that had 21 carries for 68 yards and couldn't beat out the returning RBs you're mocking even when playing through injury. I hope Ott is paying you royalties for being his only supporter.

Let's meet back here in a year and see if this ages as well as your opinions last year that we couldn't develop our DL and that Stone was a bust.
 
This argument about the RB room makes my head hurt. Arguments on both sides are subjective. Is the room better on paper than last year....no, but that room didn't produce. If this new group produces...then they're better. But we won't know until we know. The WR room has had some major talent that never produced. Jadon Haselwood, Theo Wease & Mario Williams were big names but Marvin Mims Jr and Drake Stoops were better producers.
 
You gotta block better and your gotta have RB that can play. X and Blaylock gave effort but probably shouldn't have played the last couple games but nobody else on the roster wanted to really play.

OL getting more experience this year and being together and developing will be big. Hopefully Blaylock and X are healthy by the start of next year. Not sure about the freshmen or the transfer I'm assuming we try and get one more transfer if for any reason to get some snaps in spring where you won't see Blaylock or X practice at all most likely.
 
All this talk about RBs, it’s unclear if we’re pursuing another RB in the portal. I’m not sure how many more spots we will fill. We definitely need a LB, DT, 1-2 more OL, another TE would be nice, maybe 1 more WR. I think we’ve done a fantastic job filling needs so far.
 
All this talk about RBs, it’s unclear if we’re pursuing another RB in the portal. I’m not sure how many more spots we will fill. We definitely need a LB, DT, 1-2 more OL, another TE would be nice, maybe 1 more WR. I think we’ve done a fantastic job filling needs so far.
OU has 14-17 open spots .. I don't believe they are looking at another RB ..

1 more WR 2 more OL 1 more DT 1 more LB maybe 2 if kip is back .. i more DB ..
 
OU has 14-17 open spots .. I don't believe they are looking at another RB ..

1 more WR 2 more OL 1 more DT 1 more LB maybe 2 if kip is back .. i more DB ..
I don't understand why they are going for another WR over another RB. This season, we rarely played more than three WRs in a game. The fourth and fifth guys got very few snaps, and guys beyond that never saw the field. If Sategna is back, you have him and Livingstone and Harris. They have acted for a year like Eli Thomas is the second coming, and the hype has already started on three or four other young guys. Nagy himself said a few weeks ago they want/need to get the younger WRs playing time. If Thomas (and a couple others) are anywhere close to as good as they claim they are, why are we adding more and more guys to either take playing time away from them, or to come in and never see the field? WR is a position where young guys can and do play, and play well, throughout the country. Either our guys aren't as good as they say they are, or something else is going on. Would hate to lose one or more of the young guys if we add another depth transfer to block their PT.

We need help in the back field much more than another WR, especially since we very rarely rotated WRs.
 
OU has 14-17 open spots .. I don't believe they are looking at another RB ..

1 more WR 2 more OL 1 more DT 1 more LB maybe 2 if kip is back .. i more DB ..
I'd say 2 more WR with all the recent departures and they should definitely try to find another RB that could push to start if he doesn't break the bank like Ott.

Say 15 is the number I'll guess:
Offense - 8
QB - 0-1
RB - 0-1
WR - 2-3
TE - 1-2
OL - 3-4
Defense 7
DE - 1-2
DT - 1-2
LB - 2
CB - 1
S - 1

Are Sandell and Miller back for ST?
 
I don't understand why they are going for another WR over another RB. This season, we rarely played more than three WRs in a game. The fourth and fifth guys got very few snaps, and guys beyond that never saw the field. If Sategna is back, you have him and Livingstone and Harris. They have acted for a year like Eli Thomas is the second coming, and the hype has already started on three or four other young guys. Nagy himself said a few weeks ago they want/need to get the younger WRs playing time. If Thomas (and a couple others) are anywhere close to as good as they claim they are, why are we adding more and more guys to either take playing time away from them, or to come in and never see the field? WR is a position where young guys can and do play, and play well, throughout the country. Either our guys aren't as good as they say they are, or something else is going on. Would hate to lose one or more of the young guys if we add another depth transfer to block their PT.

We need help in the back field much more than another WR, especially since we very rarely rotated WRs.
We need more WR because we probably want to use more but haven’t had that luxury. We played 3 because that is all the coaches trusted. We need more talented guys that can make plays and can be trusted. The coaches probably feel
Better about the RB room than you do.

We have some talent at RB and more coming. I think the coaches also believe, and I agree, that if we block better and are able to stretch the field with pass game, it will help tremendously in the run game. Our inability to pass downfield directly affected the run game this season. If we can change that it will help a lot. Of all our needs, I think RB is very low on the list.
 
We need more WR because we probably want to use more but haven’t had that luxury. We played 3 because that is all the coaches trusted. We need more talented guys that can make plays and can be trusted. The coaches probably feel
Better about the RB room than you do.

We have some talent at RB and more coming. I think the coaches also believe, and I agree, that if we block better and are able to stretch the field with pass game, it will help tremendously in the run game. Our inability to pass downfield directly affected the run game this season. If we can change that it will help a lot. Of all our needs, I think RB is very low on the list.
How can you explain a lack of trust in guys given the over-the-top hype about Thomas in the summer? People weren't saying he would be good down the road. They were saying he was already making big plays day after day against our defense. We also had Jordan healthy all season and simply didn't play him, even though he showed last year that he is very trustworthy. Manny Choice is another name that was mentioned a lot. The way I see it, there are two options: either Thomas and Choice aren't as good as people claim, or they are and we were just ridiculously stupid not to play them. Look around the country and there are always a bunch of good freshmen WRs playing, even on really good teams. We had a bad offense with only one really good WR, yet we still didn't play those guys? It makes no sense.
 
I don't understand why they are going for another WR over another RB. This season, we rarely played more than three WRs in a game.

We have one RB on the field at a time and are returning our top 2 rushers. A lot of formations require 3-4 WRs and we are most returning 1 key guy if Sategna returns. It's simple math.
 
I'd say 2 more WR with all the recent departures and they should definitely try to find another RB that could push to start if he doesn't break the bank like Ott.

I just don't see how we bring in anybody clearly better than what we have without breaking the bank. You either have to offer a lot of money or an opportunity for playing time, and it's hard to pitch a guy on playing time when you went to the CFP and have your top two guys returning. Outside of a guy that would command 1M+, there are only two options, and we've done both already.

1) Grab a talented young back that could compete for playing time but is also content sitting on the bench initially. Hatton is about the best case scenario for this.

2) Grab a guy like Avant that either has limited film or played at G5 who can contribute situationally. He likely is our best pass catcher out of the backfield and has decent odds to end up as our KR. I think he will get meaningful snaps even if everybody is healthy, and should injuries hit, I absolutely think we can win a couple games in November where he gets 10-12 touches.
 
I just don't see how we bring in anybody clearly better than what we have without breaking the bank. You either have to offer a lot of money or an opportunity for playing time, and it's hard to pitch a guy on playing time when you went to the CFP and have your top two guys returning. Outside of a guy that would command 1M+, there are only two options, and we've done both already.

1) Grab a talented young back that could compete for playing time but is also content sitting on the bench initially. Hatton is about the best case scenario for this.

2) Grab a guy like Avant that either has limited film or played at G5 who can contribute situationally. He likely is our best pass catcher out of the backfield and has decent odds to end up as our KR. I think he will get meaningful snaps even if everybody is healthy, and should injuries hit, I absolutely think we can win a couple games in November where he gets 10-12 touches.
Yeah that's were I think you go for a guy you think can really play that's stuck behind a stud, or a lower level guy you think can help that isn't expensive. If neither of those options pan out, then don't sign anybody else.
 
How can you explain a lack of trust in guys given the over-the-top hype about Thomas in the summer? People weren't saying he would be good down the road. They were saying he was already making big plays day after day against our defense. We also had Jordan healthy all season and simply didn't play him, even though he showed last year that he is very trustworthy. Manny Choice is another name that was mentioned a lot. The way I see it, there are two options: either Thomas and Choice aren't as good as people claim, or they are and we were just ridiculously stupid not to play them. Look around the country and there are always a bunch of good freshmen WRs playing, even on really good teams. We had a bad offense with only one really good WR, yet we still didn't play those guys? It makes no sense.
That is a legitimate question for the WR coach.
 
lots of dead weight being cut from the wr corps
We can’t say that. The dudes who are transferring out are all guys we wanted to see play more. Guys that all got great reports in the spring and summer. Emmet Jones may have a development issue with the wide receiver room. It would be really nice to see a WR who was recruited to OU out of high school have a large role on the team.
 
We can’t say that. The dudes who are transferring out are all guys we wanted to see play more. Guys that all got great reports in the spring and summer. Emmet Jones may have a development issue with the wide receiver room. It would be really nice to see a WR who was recruited to OU out of high school have a large role on the team.

need better evaluation/development on the entire offense....across the board.
this offensive staff may be the worst we've ever had.....post blake
 
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