Football question

[allday92]

If I am not mistaken, didn’t city of Austin pay 300!million and private donor covered the rest of the UT stadium? I think that was what led to trying to get Norman involved.

Moody Foundation paid $130M. Then they did an innovative deal with Oak View Group. Oak View is a LA company that manages sports venues. Oak View contributed the rest. Oak View built and manages the arena, and for the first 10 years, they get all revenue. After 10 years, the university will start to earn a portion of the revenue from the arena.

‘An innovative deal’: How Texas got a $300 million basketball arena at no cost to taxpayers, boosters

The new Moody Center will be open to the public this week, and the University of Texas-owned arena was built at no costs to the taxpayers, boosters.

www.statesman.com

 

[Boom Soon]

Mateer hasn’t been good, at all. I’m willing to give Ben a bit more time for a couple reasons. One, the overall lack of offensive talent. Two, he wasn’t the guy who took a massive swing on Ott. And I guess another thing is, we still have two or three position coaches who simply shouldn’t be here. When the staff hasn’t developed a tight end or RB for three years, it’s hard for an OC to come right in and get things rolling from day one.

I agree he hasn’t done a good job this year, though. You still should be able to scheme up a handful of plays per game that get easy yards. And Mateer’s play falls in part on the guy who has coached him for three years.

Flame me all you want, but there’s a small part of me that hopes OU loses the MU or LSU game to remind Venables that changes need to be made on offense. I could totally see a scenario where OU makes the playoffs and Venables doesn’t make the necessary changes because he’s just happy they made the playoffs.

Venables has silenced the haters for atleast another year. He’s proven that he can build a championship defense and culture. Now, he needs to do what he’s gotta do to build a championship level offense. Go get the best position coaches that Arbuckle wants and go get a quarterback.

 

[snydrosooner]

Moody Foundation paid $130M. Then they did an innovative deal with Oak View Group. Oak View is a LA company that manages sports venues. Oak View contributed the rest. Oak View built and manages the arena, and for the first 10 years, they get all revenue. After 10 years, the university will start to earn a portion of the revenue from the arena.

‘An innovative deal’: How Texas got a $300 million basketball arena at no cost to taxpayers, boosters

The new Moody Center will be open to the public this week, and the University of Texas-owned arena was built at no costs to the taxpayers, boosters.

www.statesman.com

I saw an interview where Mathew mcanahey said he worked with city of Austin to build stadium as a liaison. Maybe he assisted with that company.

 

[BCSooners]

Flame me all you want, but there’s a small part of me that hopes OU loses the MU or LSU game to remind Venables that changes need to be made on offense. I could totally see a scenario where OU makes the playoffs and Venables doesn’t make the necessary changes because he’s just happy they made the playoffs.

Venables has silenced the haters for atleast another year. He’s proven that he can build a championship defense and culture. Now, he needs to do what he’s gotta do to build a championship level offense. Go get the best position coaches that Arbuckle wants and go get a quarterback.

I'd rather OU make the playoffs.

 

[daqman]

I'd rather OU make the playoffs.

yeah...me too.
doesn't take a genius or a loss to see the offense needs a major overhaul.
whether that is a new qb...new oc...hopefully bv can figure it out and fix it once and for all.

 

[Boom Soon]

yeah...me too.
doesn't take a genius or a loss to see the offense needs a major overhaul.
whether that is a new qb...new oc...hopefully bv can figure it out and fix it once and for all.

I think it’s not smarts it’s loyalty. I know BV probably sees how inept the position coaches have been recently. But he’s clearly very hesitant to get rid of them. He had the PERFECT excuse to completely clean house last spring and didn’t.

 

[Boom Soon]

I'd rather OU make the playoffs.

Oh me too. Just bringing up some thoughts I had

 

[WTSooner]

mateer has been awful. if we lose one or both of the final 2 games....it will be because bv made yet another terrible offensive coordinator hiring decision.
his 3rd.

Good Lord! Our QB is playing with a broken/repaired thumb on his throwing hand. We're also starting two true freshmen at OT, and a redshirt freshman at left OG.

Our RB's are banged up and/or didn't work out (Ott).

Of ALL the blame to put on the offense, Arbuckle isn't getting much of it in my book. I'm not saying he's been great, but he's been good enough to have us undefeated with a healthier roster.

 

[WTSooner]

Not sure if the West side renovations were brought up - but $450M estimated cost. There's no reason they can't have an on-campus arena if they can find that money, they're just choosing not to do it.

Baylor's new arena and Texas' new arena both cost under $300M.

OU Announces “The Palace Project” - University of Oklahoma

NORMAN – The University of Oklahoma Board of Regents last week voted to advance vital renovations to Gaylord Family – Oklahoma Memorial Stadium's west side, ...

soonersports.com

They didn't "find" that money, they've been saving (both internally and donations) for well over a decade.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Flame me all you want, but there’s a small part of me that hopes OU loses the MU or LSU game to remind Venables that changes need to be made on offense. I could totally see a scenario where OU makes the playoffs and Venables doesn’t make the necessary changes because he’s just happy they made the playoffs.

Venables has silenced the haters for atleast another year. He’s proven that he can build a championship defense and culture. Now, he needs to do what he’s gotta do to build a championship level offense. Go get the best position coaches that Arbuckle wants and go get a quarterback.

But using that rationale, he DID make a change on offense this year and well, we're still not even close to good enough on O. So what makes you think hed finally get it right next time?

So screw that, win out and see what happens (please no more extensions tho, idiot joe castiglione)

 

[WTSooner]

I think it’s not smarts it’s loyalty. I know BV probably sees how inept the position coaches have been recently. But he’s clearly very hesitant to get rid of them. He had the PERFECT excuse to completely clean house last spring and didn’t.

It's not 100% Brent's call. All hirings and firings have to be approved by the Board of Regents. The rumor is somebody well above BV's pay grade said no to spending money to buy out assistant coaches and replace them.

 

[WTSooner]

Offensive efficiency score/ranking per ESPN:

2025 - 61.8/42nd

2024 - 39.2/95th

So yes, the OU offense has been MUCH better this year.

 

[WTSooner]

yeah...me too.
doesn't take a genius or a loss to see the offense needs a major overhaul.
whether that is a new qb...new oc...hopefully bv can figure it out and fix it once and for all.

Or maybe they just need to get healthy (QB/RB) and get some experience (OT's).

There have been guys running open all season. Mateer found enough of them against Michigan and Auburn that the offense looked promising, even if not spectacular. Clearly some of that has changed after the thumb injury.

The same moro.....people calling for Abuckle and Mateer to be the shown the door are the ones that didn't like Chavis or Valai. Not everything happens overnight or in a vaccum. I showed above that the OU offense has taken tremendous strides. I would expect them to do the same next year, even with very few changes*.

*I'd still prefer we move on from Murray and JJF, and spend a little more NIL on that side of the ball.

 

[daqman]

Good Lord! Our QB is playing with a broken/repaired thumb on his throwing hand. We're also starting two true freshmen at OT, and a redshirt freshman at left OG.

Our RB's are banged up and/or didn't work out (Ott).

Of ALL the blame to put on the offense, Arbuckle isn't getting much of it in my book. I'm not saying he's been great, but he's been good enough to have us undefeated with a healthier roster.

his thumb has nothing to do with his proclivity to abandon the pocket long before he needs to....or his reluctance to throw to open receivers...many times on his first read.
mateer has been a bust so far. arbuckle's play calling and management of players....leaves much to be desired.
arbuckle's offense if good enough to eke out wins when the defense/special teams give him the ball with an extremely short field and the best kicker in the country.
3 td passes in 6 conference games....can't believe anyone is defending that garbage.

 

[mict085]

This ideas that we would be undefeated if mateer hadn’t been injured is just ridiculous. Totally ridiculous. He is what he’s always been before and after the injury. Tough kid, great leader and competitor. Average QB.

 

[daqman]

Per Pro Football Focus, Mateer has connected on just 2-of-17 attempts of 20+ air yards over the past 5 games, yielding the fewest completions and worst grade on downfield attempts among SEC starters in that span.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Per Pro Football Focus, Mateer has connected on just 2-of-17 attempts of 20+ air yards over the past 5 games, yielding the fewest completions and worst grade on downfield attempts among SEC starters in that span.

Theyre just blind to it. I was concerned in the earlier games before the thumb. Here we are

 

[Boom Soon]

Per Pro Football Focus, Mateer has connected on just 2-of-17 attempts of 20+ air yards over the past 5 games, yielding the fewest completions and worst grade on downfield attempts among SEC starters in that span.

He’s not very good. He needs to be second string next year if OU is serious about a championship.

 

[Boom Soon]

Theyre just blind to it. I was concerned in the earlier games before the thumb. Here we are

The Missouri quarterback is gonna come back after a destroyed ankle and ball out. Meanwhile, Oklahoma fans will still be making excuses for Mateer weeks after he’s been cleared from a thumb injury.

 

[daqman]

He’s not very good. He needs to be second string next year if OU is serious about a championship.

he needs to take a massive pay cut if he's a sooner next year.
besides ott....was there a worse roi for a player than mateer?