Football question

[hoopsaustin]

No one within 10 yards of him and Mateer jumps backwards and throws sidearm. It’s going to be so depressing knowing all offseason that he will be our quarterback next season.

90% he will be our QB again....

 

[WichitaSooner]

Jordan was a weird omission all year IMO for a team with weak sauce WRs..

It made no sense. We basically didn’t have a third WR after Hawkins nearly decapitated Lewis. Gibson was a nonfactor all season. Jordan managed to make an impact last year on the worst offense ever created, but didn’t even get a sniff this year.

 

[jmizzy4ou]

Man, didn't end the way we wanted, but it was a fun season, IMO. Oklahoma can play defense again!! The offense must get better, but I certainly would have taken 10-3 and a home playoff game if you asked me in July. Hopefully we keep improving and go further next year.....

 

[WichitaSooner]

90% he will be our QB again....

As much a they talk about his baseball background, maybe he could go the Alec Blair route lol.

 

[Eielson]

Mateer missed Gibson on a layup for a touchdown. He led guys too far on several throws and that cost us lots of yardage after the catch. He did his usual BS and threw sidearm while jumping with no one around him. And once he threw the pick, he totally lost his way for over a quarter. Since you’re convinced he looked healthy tonight, how do you explain those things?

If you couldn't tell the difference between the guy that threw for 138 yards a little over a month ago vs 307 tonight, then that really says it all. Not surprising for somebody that repeatedly said our defense wasn't elite and predicted a 6 win season.

 

[mict085]

Disappointing end. We gave the game away with unforced errors. 10 points just given away with no credit to the defense. Just sickening.

 

[WichitaSooner]

If you couldn't tell the difference between the guy that threw for 138 yards a little over a month ago vs 307 tonight, then that really says it all. Not surprising for somebody that repeatedly said our defense wasn't elite and predicted a 6 win season.

Where did I say he didn’t look better tonight? That’s a low bar. He still isn’t good enough. He is not a championship caliber quarterback. The team won this year in spite of him, not because of him.

He actually threw for 357 when you add in the TD pass where he hit the Bama defender in stride.

 

[Eielson]

Mateer = Different.. yet threw a decisive pick 6?

When interceptions look that bad, it's often on the WR. I'm told that Lewis ran the wrong route and should have been where the ball was thrown.

I don't know that for a fact, and I'm not going to die on that hill, but he was moving the ball all game against a defense that nobody else does that to. Without any semblance of a run game.

He's not a generational talent, and nobody ever felt he was, but he played well enough to win tonight. We've won with much worse performances.

 

[hoopsaustin]

If you couldn't tell the difference between the guy that threw for 138 yards a little over a month ago vs 307 tonight, then that really says it all. Not surprising for somebody that repeatedly said our defense wasn't elite and predicted a 6 win season.

I mean, he did look better but still missed throws and had his usual near-picks too.. hes just not anywhere near worth even 33% of his contract $$.

 

[Eielson]

Where did I say he didn’t look better tonight?

I'm glad we have all finally come to the common sense conclusion that breaking your throwing hand thumb isn't good for performance and takes some time to fully heal.

 

[hoopsaustin]

When interceptions look that bad, it's often on the WR. I'm told that Lewis ran the wrong route and should have been where the ball was thrown.

I don't know that for a fact, and I'm not going to die on that hill, but he was moving the ball all game against a defense that nobody else does that to. Without any semblance of a run game.

He's not a generational talent, and nobody ever felt he was, but he played well enough to win tonight. We've won with much worse performances.

No.. we were sold that he was a baker mayfield type gunslinger that would be a Heisman quality guy.. instead, we got a 12 TD and 10 INT sort of guy.

The run game partly sucks bc of mateer. Mateer gets more rushes than the RBs that are stronger, faster, and are specifically designed for and experienced in running the ball. 19 carries vs 11 and 3.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I'm glad we have all finally come to the common sense conclusion that breaking your throwing hand thumb isn't good for performance and takes some time to fully heal.

And at his best, before the injury and tonight, his accuracy is subpar and he makes multiple horrific decisions every game.

 

[Eielson]

I mean, he did look better but still missed throws and had his usual near-picks too.. hes just not anywhere near worth even 33% of his contract $$.

It's really amazing that some of you check every tipped ball as an interception equivalent for Mateer. That's life in the SEC, especially with no running game and a bunch of freshmen playing OL. Not every throw is going to be perfect. He was incredibly dangerous out of the pocket today, including the dime that X dropped on 3rd down and the 4th down conversion.

We could do better. But we could absolutely do worse.

 

[Eielson]

No.. we were sold that he was a baker mayfield

I have no idea how you ever believed that. There isn't a single Baker Mayfield in college football today. And even Baker was throwing to Ceedee, Hollywood, and Andrews against inferior defenses.

The run game partly sucks bc of mateer. Mateer gets more rushes than the RBs that are stronger, faster, and are specifically designed for and experienced in running the ball. 19 carries vs 11 and 3.

QB runs get you an extra blocker. Sacks are included as runs in college football and a lot of his designed are short yardage situations. His QB run game is largely why our red zone offense was so good. The problem was getting to the red zone.

 

[WaymanFan]

If not for the brutally bad pick-6, Mateer haters would have been eating a lot of crow. As predicted by some of us, he looked completely different with time to rest his thumb and out of the brace for the first time. It's clear Arbuckle had a hand tied behind his back. This is the guy we saw against Michigan.

Mateer is our QB1 and Arbuckle is the playcaller. And we're gonna win the whole damn thing if we hit on a couple key positions in the portal.

I do appreciate your optimism, Eielson, I really do...and certainly hope you're right. What I saw from watching Mateer was Trevor Knight. I think we need an upgrade, but if you turn out to be right, I'll be owning what I said next year at this time. He needs to make decisions faster, but he also needs more help - especially from his offensive line. I have to believe there will be some noticeable changes in the offseason, most notably on offense.

 

[Boom Soon]

I do appreciate your optimism, Eielson, I really do...and certainly hope you're right. What I saw from watching Mateer was Trevor Knight. I think we need an upgrade, but if you turn out to be right, I'll be owning what I said next year at this time. He needs to make decisions faster, but he also needs more help - especially from his offensive line. I have to believe there will be some noticeable changes in the offseason, most notably on offense.

I find it amusing that people are saying “It’s Mateer’s best game in weeks,” and it still includes a back breaking pick six.

 

[soonertrash77]

You know I agree with all that’s being said about changes in the offense. Especially at the QB spot. Some really good ones in the portal.

I would say tho that just twelve months ago the big question around Norman was ‘how many wins would it take for BV to keep his job’ many said at least 8. Well we won 10 and for that I would say this was a very successful season….warts and all.

 

[Boom Soon]

You know I agree with all that’s being said about changes in the offense. Especially at the QB spot. Some really good ones in the portal.

I would say tho that just twelve months ago the big question around Norman was ‘how many wins would it take for BV to keep his job’ many said at least 8. Well we won 10 and for that I would say this was a very successful season….warts and all.

I agree. Very happy with the overall season!

 

[hoopsaustin]

You know I agree with all that’s being said about changes in the offense. Especially at the QB spot. Some really good ones in the portal.

I would say tho that just twelve months ago the big question around Norman was ‘how many wins would it take for BV to keep his job’ many said at least 8. Well we won 10 and for that I would say this was a very successful season….warts and all.

This is true. We are greedy. But we have moved the goalposts for sure. Its hard not to, bc of HOW we lose the games. Still I would not give BV any more leash than he currently has. And I would bet on another BV 6-7 special than I would another 10 win season next year. Who knows, maybe we change things up and try to upgrade mateer and EVERY position on the team, but I doubt it. We are too loyal and not cutthroat enough

 

[Eielson]

Who knows, maybe we change things up and try to upgrade mateer and EVERY position on the team, but I doubt it. We are too loyal and not cutthroat enough

I'm not really sure how you watched a CFP team and think it's possible to upgrade every position.