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Congrats to Robert Spears-Jennings (Steelers), Jaren Kanek (Titans) and Deion Burks (Colts) for being drafted in Round 7. I thought Spears-Jennings would have gone a bit sooner, but I had Kanek at 50/50 being drafted. Burks literally spent FOUR HOURS on Mel Kiper's "Best Available" list. When he finally got his name called, the commentators said they will dig into why it took so long. Players fall in the Draft every year. I just have never seen it happen to a Sooner in this fashion. He was #96 on Mel Kiper's final top-150 ranking. He's been wrong before, but seldom 160 picks off on a player.

All in all, 7 Sooners were drafted which is higher than their average. Still, we need to start getting more than one guy drafted in the first two days.
 
WaymanFan said:
Congrats to Robert Spears-Jennings (Steelers), Jaren Kanek (Titans) and Deion Burks (Colts) for being drafted in Round 7. I thought Spears-Jennings would have gone a bit sooner, but I had Kanek at 50/50 being drafted. Burks literally spent FOUR HOURS on Mel Kiper's "Best Available" list. When he finally got his name called, the commentators said they will dig into why it took so long. Players fall in the Draft every year. I just have never seen it happen to a Sooner in this fashion. He was #96 on Mel Kiper's final top-150 ranking. He's been wrong before, but seldom 160 picks off on a player.

All in all, 7 Sooners were drafted which is higher than their average. Still, we need to start getting more than one guy drafted in the first two days.
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Yea only getting one offensive skill guy drafted, and at the very end of the draft, is a pretty accurate representation of where our offense has been the last two or three years. We already know we won’t have any RBs drafted next year, so really need to hope the WRs are much better as a group than they were last season.
 
hoopsaustin said:
Often its better to not be drafted if its the 7th round.. but i looked and the Colts took no WRs. So that's amazing prolly.

Its better for OU to get as much drafted as possible regardless
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There are definitely two sides to that coin. On one hand, you are correct because if you're not drafted, you can simply decide which team is the best fit for you. You may as well go to a team where you have the best chance of making a roster. On the other hand, if a 7th round pick is fighting tooth and nail with a UFA and it's too close to call, the team will likely keep the draft pick. It's a better look for the management team who drafted that player. Plus, it's easier to hide a UFA on the Practice Squad than a drafted player.
 
Ott signing with the Chiefs is hilarious. He and Murray reunited … very strange he would choose to sign there given how much of a disaster this season was for both of them.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Yea only getting one offensive skill guy drafted, and at the very end of the draft, is a pretty accurate representation of where our offense has been the last two or three years. We already know we won’t have any RBs drafted next year, so really need to hope the WRs are much better as a group than they were last season.
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Two 7th round guys, but your point is still valid. Now, let's look at the other side of the ball...the one Venables is slowly cleaning up. We've had a total of ONE defensive player selected in the 1st round of the NFL Draft in the last SIXTEEN drafts. To give you an idea of how pathetic that is, Ohio State had THREE defensive players selected in the first 11 picks this year alone. YIKES!
 
WichitaSooner said:
Ott signing with the Chiefs is hilarious. He and Murray reunited … very strange he would choose to sign there given how much of a disaster this season was for both of them.
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I have to agree...very strange. Ott cost himself a lot of money by mailing in the season. Had he played hard and to his potential, he would have heard his name called today and his agent would be prepping for contract negotiations. NFL teams generally don't reward college quitters. I forgot his name, but we had a DT about a dozen years back who looked like he had a promising career ahead of him, but quit to focus on the Draft. The Eagles gave him a tryout after he went undrafted, but he was quickly cut and never heard from again.
 
WaymanFan said:
Two 7th round guys, but your point is still valid. Now, let's look at the other side of the ball...the one Venables is slowly cleaning up. We've had a total of ONE defensive player selected in the 1st round of the NFL Draft in the last SIXTEEN drafts. To give you an idea of how pathetic that is, Ohio State had THREE defensive players selected in the first 11 picks this year alone. YIKES!
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Part of that is that arnold was such a bum, he took 1 year of tape. And then mateer wasn't elite and took another 1 year of tape
 
WaymanFan said:
Two 7th round guys, but your point is still valid. Now, let's look at the other side of the ball...the one Venables is slowly cleaning up. We've had a total of ONE defensive player selected in the 1st round of the NFL Draft in the last SIXTEEN drafts. To give you an idea of how pathetic that is, Ohio State had THREE defensive players selected in the first 11 picks this year alone. YIKES!
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I never know if TEs count as skill guys. I think it’s usually WRs and RBs but I know some people also count TEs.
 
hoopsaustin said:
Part of that is that arnold was such a bum, he took 1 year of tape. And then mateer wasn't elite and took another 1 year of tape
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I think our skill guys are better than the results suggest.

Hopefully we'll find out this year by staying healthy.
 
WaymanFan said:
Congrats to Robert Spears-Jennings (Steelers), Jaren Kanek (Titans) and Deion Burks (Colts) for being drafted in Round 7. I thought Spears-Jennings would have gone a bit sooner, but I had Kanek at 50/50 being drafted. Burks literally spent FOUR HOURS on Mel Kiper's "Best Available" list. When he finally got his name called, the commentators said they will dig into why it took so long. Players fall in the Draft every year. I just have never seen it happen to a Sooner in this fashion. He was #96 on Mel Kiper's final top-150 ranking. He's been wrong before, but seldom 160 picks off on a player.

All in all, 7 Sooners were drafted which is higher than their average. Still, we need to start getting more than one guy drafted in the first two days.
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Burks was a huge surprise after his combine showing. I felt confident he'd be 3rd or 4th round. Nobody suffered more from Mateer's injury than he did, as evidenced by him shredding both great defenses he played while Mateer was healthy. Alabama and UM were littered with NFL guys. He's not very big, and he's not Hollywood level explosive, but he'll absolutely have an NFL career.
 
Eielson said:
Burks was a huge surprise after his combine showing. I felt confident he'd be 3rd or 4th round. Nobody suffered more from Mateer's injury than he did, as evidenced by him shredding both great defenses he played while Mateer was healthy. Alabama and UM were littered with NFL guys. He's not very big, and he's not Hollywood level explosive, but he'll absolutely have an NFL career.
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I hope he does but I’m skeptical.
 
WaymanFan said:
Two 7th round guys, but your point is still valid. Now, let's look at the other side of the ball...the one Venables is slowly cleaning up. We've had a total of ONE defensive player selected in the 1st round of the NFL Draft in the last SIXTEEN drafts. To give you an idea of how pathetic that is, Ohio State had THREE defensive players selected in the first 11 picks this year alone. YIKES!
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Ohio State certain has incredible talent. That's not really a coaching staff thing, though. That's almost entirely NIL, as this was the expected outcome for 3 of their 4 guys drafted in the top 11. While I'd love to do what they're doing, I don't think pillaging Bama's top players is in our budget.

More impressive to me, is that BV is getting comparable production from 4th round picks, which is exponentially more sustainable. I don't really care where our guys are picked when our defense is top 5 in every advanced analytic.

Let's also note that Indiana had a top 5 defense, which they won it all with. Our defensive draft was comparable to theirs...if you cut ours in half.

Can BV win it all with 4th rounders? Perhaps he needs to upgrade to the 3rd rounders...like Rocky Calmus and Torrance Marshall
 
I think this also a good spot to point out how hilarious it is that bedwetters spent several pages claiming our defense was falling apart based on the loss of guys like Damonic Williams. How will BV ever replace that UDFA?
 
Eielson said:
Ohio State certain has incredible talent. That's not really a coaching staff thing, though. That's almost entirely NIL, as this was the expected outcome for 3 of their 4 guys drafted in the top 11. While I'd love to do what they're doing, I don't think pillaging Bama's top players is in our budget.

More impressive to me, is that BV is getting comparable production from 4th round picks, which is exponentially more sustainable. I don't really care where our guys are picked when our defense is top 5 in every advanced analytic.

Let's also note that Indiana had a top 5 defense, which they won it all with. Our defensive draft was comparable to theirs...if you cut ours in half.

Can BV win it all with 4th rounders? Perhaps he needs to upgrade to the 3rd rounders...like Rocky Calmus and Torrance Marshall
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I don't disagree with anything you said. I was just putting into perspective the fact that one 1st round pick on defense in the last 16 drafts is pretty bad - and we haven't won a title or a playoff game in that span to contradict that. Other than this past season, the reason we haven't won a playoff game was because of a porous defense. What we don't want to do is flip the script which we have a title-contending defense and a porous offense (kind of like last season). If we can somehow have quality players on both sides of the ball, our fortunes will turn.
 
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