For those of you questioning Coach Capel's

[OUhoops11]

ability to evaluate talent and develop that talent, I urge you to remember Eric Maynor, who is a darn solid backup point guard in the NBA. Maynor was recruited and developed by Coach Capel, and wanted to follow Coach to OU.


He's not the most athletic guard in the world, but he stayed four years at VCU and worked his tail off to get better. His freshman year, he averaged 4 points, 2 assists and 2 turnovers per game in 16 minutes. His sophomore year, he averaged 14 points, 6 assists, and less than 2 turnovers per game in 35 minutes.



Our guards are young. They look overwhelmed right now and have made the kind of bad plays that many freshmen make. They will improve with experience and tutelage. While the results may not be as immediate and obvious as most of you fans demand, they have the potential to be solid 4 year players. Maybe they won't turn out to be as good as Eric Maynor, but the latter proves Capel has the ability to develop talent into great play.

 

[scrybe]

Thanks for giving us some positive input on our Coach. Capel, his staff and the players deserve better than what they've been getting here on OUHoops.com during the last week or so. Hope there are others who also appreciate your post.

 

[soonermcd93]

I can appreciate the optimism, but the debbie downer says that is one guy and that was a while ago.

 

[OUhoops11]

Capel, his staff and the players deserve better than what they've been getting here on OUHoops.com during the last week or so.

Absolutely they do.

 

[AdaSooner]

Capel can be credited with recruiting and signing Maynor, but not for his development. Anthony Grant was Maynor's coach while he was at VCU. I could be wrong, but I think Capel left for OU the spring before the start of Eric's freshman season. I do know that he played for Grant for at least three seasons.

 

[Soonercuda]

Capel can be credited with recruiting and signing Maynor, but not for his development. Anthony Grant was Maynor's coach while he was at VCU. I could be wrong, but I think Capel left for OU the spring before the start of Eric's freshman season. I do know that he played for Grant for at least three seasons.

Capel was Maynor's coach for Maynor's freshman year.

 

[thebigabd]

That was one guy... all programs sign good players.

Colorado, under Ricardo Patton (an awful coach at an awful program), signed good players all the time.

 

[buttermaker1]

Good Grief

Capel is a terrible coach, this team has lost how many games in the last 15? We have lost 4 in a row this year. Capel has lost over 33 games by double digits. He is a finger pointer blaming the players and the fans. How many players has he ran off in the last 5 years?

It is time to make a change. The fan base will agree with me. OU will have its worst fan sport since before Tubbs. The OU women will average 30% more fans in the stands.

OU is the worst team in the big 12 this year.

I have zero confidence this coach can turn the ship around.

If you are happy with the direction of the program good luck.

Who cares about Eric maynor we have lost 4 in a row.

 

[OUhoops11]

Good Grief

Capel is a terrible coach, this team has lost how many games in the last 15? We have lost 4 in a row this year. Capel has lost over 33 games by double digits. He is a finger pointer blaming the players and the fans. How many players has he ran off in the last 5 years?

It is time to make a change. The fan base will agree with me. OU will have its worst fan sport since before Tubbs. The OU women will average 30% more fans in the stands.

OU is the worst team in the big 12 this year.

I have zero confidence this coach can turn the ship around.

If you are happy with the direction of the program good luck.

Who cares about Eric maynor we have lost 4 in a row.

And how many games have you been to this year buttermaker? Pretty easy to sit around b!tching and moaning on a message board whining about the crowd support and the coaching, but I'm sure you've probably yet to make a game. Let me guess, you live too far away? I'm sure you were enjoying win after win with an Elite 8 appearance a couple of years ago.



To say he's a terrible coach is nothing more than ignorance and stupidity.

 

[DenverSooner]

To say he's a terrible coach is nothing more than ignorance and stupidity.

the results at OU don't support that position.

 

[OUhoops11]

the results at OU don't support that position.

Winning 4 NCAA tournament games, going to the Elite 8, winning the Big 12 regular season title if Blake doesn't get a concussion doesn't support that position?



Since when do terrible coaches make the Elite 8 or challenge for a conference title?



If you want to say he's not a great coach, fine. He's not a Wooden, Izzo, or K. To say he's terrible is stupidity, ignorance, and undercuts your entire argument.

 

[Edmond_Sooner]

There has probably been too much negative directed at the players, but all the negativity directed at the coaches is warranted...and we might be taking it easy on him to be honest...

We all know these players for what they are, and they just arent good enough to win at this level consistently...but we know that before the season...what is frustrating is the constant excuse making for the coaches...

Anyone with a lick of basketball knowledge: playing, coaching or just the avid fan...knows this team is poorly coached

Look i feel for Capel and i dont think it is for lack of effort, i just dont think he is a great coach when it comes to schemes...just how i see it, and obviously the view of many others (majority)...

 

[thebigabd]

And how many games have you been to this year buttermaker? Pretty easy to sit around b!tching and moaning on a message board whining about the crowd support and the coaching, but I'm sure you've probably yet to make a game. Let me guess, you live too far away? I'm sure you were enjoying win after win with an Elite 8 appearance a couple of years ago.



To say he's a terrible coach is nothing more than ignorance and stupidity.

Ignorance? Its based on real things.

• 36 double digit losses since he got here
• 3 of the worst seasons OU has had in 60 years during his 5 year tenure
• Losing record without Blake Griffin
• Worst team in the Big 12 this year
• Conference picked OU last in Big 12 this year
• One of only a few teams to ever lose to Chaminade
• Recruiting has been awful

Not to mention that Blake is out there dominating the best players IN THE WORLD as a rookie. The better Blake does out there and the worse OU does without him makes it easy to connect those dots as to why OU was good. Having one of the best power forward on the planet playing with amateurs in college basketball along with the holdovers from Sampson (AJ, Crocker, Taylor, etc) will make you a pretty good team.

Winning 4 NCAA tournament games, going to the Elite 8, winning the Big 12 regular season title if Blake doesn't get a concussion doesn't support that position?

Quin Snyder had an elite 8 too... And you cant count a Big 12 championship that they didnt actually win! Come on!

 

[buttermaker1]

And how many games have you been to this year buttermaker? Pretty easy to sit around b!tching and moaning on a message board whining about the crowd support and the coaching, but I'm sure you've probably yet to make a game. Let me guess, you live too far away? I'm sure you were enjoying win after win with an Elite 8 appearance a couple of years ago.



To say he's a terrible coach is nothing more than ignorance and stupidity.

I respectfully disagree. Let me define a terrible coach. One real run in the tourney in 5 years, running off 15+ players over a 4 year period, losing over 33 games by double digits, losing the last 4 games and losing 12 out of the last 14 games last season.

What does my attendance have to do with his record? Attacking my attendance is not an arguement.

Stick to the facts, wins and losses. What is his record while at OU?

Do you really want to hang your hat on 1 out of 5 years?

 

[Big Old Booger]

So, because Capel recruited and coached for 1 year a backup player in the NBA I should admit that Capel can coach and recruit?

Should I say the same thing about John Blake? He recruited Roy Williams and even coached him 1 season so does that mean Blake could coach and recruit?

Frank Solich recruited and developed Eric Crouch, so I guess I should say Solich was a great coach and recruiter, too.

Melvin Watkins recruited Acie Law to aTm and coached him for 1 year so I guess we should say the worst coach in the history of the big 12 (although he could be displaced if Capel continues at his current pace) is also a great coach and recruiter?

The argument you use to support your position is atrocious.

 

[BillyOcean]

Winning 4 NCAA tournament games, going to the Elite 8, winning the Big 12 regular season title if Blake doesn't get a concussion doesn't support that position?



Since when do terrible coaches make the Elite 8 or challenge for a conference title?



If you want to say he's not a great coach, fine. He's not a Wooden, Izzo, or K. To say he's terrible is stupidity, ignorance, and undercuts your entire argument.

you must be a texas fan. do you want an * for that year as well?

 

[DenverSooner]

If you want to say he's not a great coach, fine. He's not a Wooden, Izzo, or K. To say he's terrible is stupidity, ignorance, and undercuts your entire argument.

If I am ignorant then why don't you educate as to Capel's system? What is that he is trying to accomplish? Does he run a motion offense? Does he run the one four set Sampson liked or does he put 5 guys on the court that shoot whenever they want including low percentage 3 point shots?

What is the defensive system? Does OU trap? Does OU press? Does OU play zone? Does OU play man to man?

Every good coach had/has a system that is readily apparent. I have no freaking clue what Capel's system is. I have no clue what the identity of his teams are. I know what Blake Griffin's system was and I know what his identity was but I simply cannot say that about OU. (If you don't know, Griffin's system was to take the ball to the rim and preferably throw down a monster dunk and his identity was to play harder than everyone else on the floor, particularly on the offensive end.)

 

[jmizzy4ou]

DISCLAIMER​

Unfortunately the board will be as miserable as it became during the " Pumpers vs " Cleti" feud at the end of the Sampson era. You have posters who will show up for every game, and they will post in the official game thread about how awful the coach is. You then will get those who want to argue with them and defend the current coach, and eventually you will see the board become a constant feud over if the coach should go or stay

The worst part about it is that Sooner fans who come here to just support the team no matter who the admin hires/fires/keeps/etc, get lost in the shuffle, or just grow tired of the pissing matches and leave. I wanted to follow the game in the game thread tonight, but avoided it because I knew that it would be similar to the OF threads during games.

Sadly, neither side will back off because you have 5-10 posters who just have to be right, and they have to interject their " expertise" into every thread on the board.....:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm

Wow Prophetic Post​

 

[afaSooner]

Ignorance? Its based on real things.

• 36 double digit losses since he got here
• 3 of the worst seasons OU has had in 60 years during his 5 year tenure
• Losing record without Blake Griffin
• Worst team in the Big 12 this year
• Conference picked OU last in Big 12 this year
• One of only a few teams to ever lose to Chaminade
• Recruiting has been awful

Last I checked OU hasn't played the Big12 games yet. There's still a season underway despite what you think. After the year is over I'll tell you who the worst team in the Big12 was but I'll even do you one better... I'll tell you who the best team was too. Are they the worst team in the Big12 right now? Maybe but there's a chance that can change. This is a VERY inexperienced young team but it does have some talent. I think this team can finish middle of the pack which would be a huge accomplishment considering the void those bone heads left by bailing on us. That's too bad OU didn't land another one of its PG prospects instead of TMG who was bound to bail on someone. Same can be said about Gallon.

 

[seniorsooner]

For Christ's sake the guy has won 8 of his last 28 games at OU. We are simply too good of a program to put up with that. I'm willing to give him another year but you guys that act like the people that are calling him out on the board are ignorant and stupid are ridiculous. Get some perspective. There are NO EXCUSES for him. He created this mess HIMSELF, nobody else did.