Yeah, yeah. I get it, but we’re in dire straits. If we hire another loser, that means 3-4 more years of total irrelevance and more fan apathy, if that’s possible.
We need a proven winner, not the flavor of the month from the Missouri Valley.
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We need a proven winner, not the flavor of the month from the Missouri Valley.
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Kruger was at a mid major .. so find a "proven coach" from a mid major who is that ?
UNLV is not a mid major. Give me a break.
He’d also coached at Florida, K-State and Illinois.
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??? what .. they 100% are
there are high majors IE the power 5 in basketball .. SEC BIG ACC Big12 and Big East and then mid majors .. MWC being one .. (the non high major leagues that can get multi bids .) ..
then the low majors .
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What a laughable argument. By your method, Gonzaga is a mid major too.??? what .. they 100% are
there are high majors IE the power 5 in basketball .. SEC BIG ACC Big12 and Big East and then mid majors .. MWC being one .. (the non high major leagues that can get multi bids .) ..
then the low majors .
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But in reality they’re not. Same with UNLV, San Diego State, etc.
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they are in a mid major league .. but yeah they are maybe the lone acceptation to the rule
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UNLV is absolutely a mid-major job and has been since Tarkanian left.
But are not a mid major program. Do you see how that works?
I totally disagree, but whatever. If we hire this year’s mid major darling and give him the 14th best NIL in the SEC, we should not be surprised when we get what we pay for.
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Would that include a win over South Carolina?
If your point is that Moser sucks, I agree.
I hope we steer our next hire in the opposite direction of his profile. We should target a coach with multiple NCAA tournaments on his resume who has coached in a multi-bid league.
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Yes, that coach will be RUNNING to Oklahoma...
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Moser's problem isn't that he was a mid major coach. it's that he was an unsuccessful mid major coach for the vast majority of his career, and he is now a bad power conference coach. Nate Oats was a high school coach and math teacher. Dusty May was coaching FAU a few short years ago. Good coaches come from everywhere, as do bad coaches.
Ha. Up the NIL game and we can make a good hire. Nothing else matters in today’s climate.
If we can’t or won’t do that, we will be irrelevant. Trying to find John Wooden in Dekalb is such a dumb way to do things.
There are good coaches at mid majors, but OU has not proven they can identify them.
Even if we could, what can they accomplish with subpar NIL funding?
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Billy and Kelvin were established power conference coaches in your mind?
Give a good coach this exact roster and we are probably 14-5 or 13-6 right now and firmly in the tournament field. Perhaps better, if that coach could better identify and develop depth pieces, i.e., the guys who don't cost a ton of money. Our bench is a weakness, and Moser recruited Dayton and chose to keep Jones and JN. He also recruited a baseball player and a skinny foreign kid. NIL has little to do with those issues. Even with the lack of a bench, we have a better roster than at least three of the teams we have lost to. So a good coach could accomplish quite a bit.
Comparing 1980s and 1990s college basketball to now is outrageous.
But I generally agree with your second point. This team isn’t buying into Moser. It would help a lot if they were. Last year’s team did and we made the tournament.
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The ONLY reason we barely squeaked into the tournament last year was because an NBA lottery pick fell into his lap. It had nothing to do with them buying into Moser.
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Regardless, coaches still have to coach...NIL pocket or not. NIL does help, but coaching well in basketball can absolutely get you over lower NIL funding.
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And I gave you about a dozen examples of current top 25 coaches who came directly from mid majors.
Joe C may not even be the man who makes the next hire. The fact he missed on Capel and Moser doesn't mean you just swear off hiring all mid major coaches at OU this time around. And if your concern is needing a coach who can overcome the alleged lack of NIL, well, mid major guys certainly have to win without high priced rosters.
To be clear, I don't care where our next guy comes from. I only care that he is a good coach and a good fit.
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