GAME 19 - OKLAHOMA (11-7) @ SOUTH CAROLINA (10-8) 6:00pm CST on SECNETWORK

[cbertus6]

Schertz is the clear cut answer right now (whether we can poach him or not is another story). After that, we are going to be looking at a guy like Calhoun and then you start getting into the unprovens like Hodgson, Skinn, and Siddle

 

[TEvans4Three]

And I gave you about a dozen examples of current top 25 coaches who came directly from mid majors.

Michigan - Dusty May (FAU)
Iowa St - TJ Otz (UNLV)
Purdue - Matt Painter (Southern Illinois)
Illinois - Brad Underwood (Oklahoma St 1 yr, SFA)
Florida - Todd Golden (San Fran)

That is just the KP Top-10

 

[colston15]

Schertz is the clear cut answer right now (whether we can poach him or not is another story). After that, we are going to be looking at a guy like Calhoun and then you start getting into the unprovens like Hodgson, Skinn, and Siddle

I like Schertz and Olen at New Mexico. We could double their salaries and still pay them less than Moser.

 

[colston15]

Michigan - Dusty May (FAU)
Iowa St - TJ Otz (UNLV)
Purdue - Matt Painter (Southern Illinois)
Illinois - Brad Underwood (Oklahoma St 1 yr, SFA)
Florida - Todd Golden (San Fran)

That is just the KP Top-10

Now compare the NIL funding at those schools to OU.

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

I like Schertz and Olen at New Mexico. We could double their salaries and still pay them less than Moser.

Schertz is making $2M at St. Louis. Porter is making $3.5M.

Nonetheless, we could give him a pretty good bump.

 

[CMSOONER]

Now compare the NIL funding at those schools to OU.

You're going to have get over this NIL funding stumbling block you keep hitting. OU is not going to up NIL, especially right now. OU is not going to poach a proven P5 coach, mark it down.

 

[daqman]

yeah we're not going to poach a coach from a p4 program.
it's going to be a mid-major head coach or an assistant from somewhere.
and we're going to have to hope for the best.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Now compare the NIL funding at those schools to OU.

The NIL issue will be the same regardless of where our next coach comes from. Identifying a good coach is a separate issue entirely.

And given how rarely Iowa State signs highly ranked portal players, I don’t think they have a massive budget. They evaluate players who fit what they want to do, develop them, and coach them incredibly well.

 

[colston15]

The NIL issue will be the same regardless of where our next coach comes from. Identifying a good coach is a separate issue entirely.

And given how rarely Iowa State signs highly ranked portal players, I don’t think they have a massive budget. They evaluate players who fit what they want to do, develop them, and coach them incredibly well.

Iowa State is the blue print for doing more with less. I agree with that point.

I think it’s incredibly difficult to replicate that, though.

 

[cvangild]

I'm not saying we don't need a new coach, because I do believe it's time for a change. However, it doesn't matter who the coach is...if your best players can't make open shots...you're going to struggle mightily to win. Our starting backcourt has gone 3-14 and 2-14 from 3 in the past two games (that's 18%!!). Both of these games were ones we had a chance to win, and failed to do so. We HAVE to start hitting open shots, or it won't get any better.

 

[hoopsaustin]

I'm not saying we don't need a new coach, because I do believe it's time for a change. However, it doesn't matter who the coach is...if your best players can't make open shots...you're going to struggle mightily to win. Our starting backcourt has gone 3-14 and 2-14 from 3 in the past two games (that's 18%!!). Both of these games were ones we had a chance to win, and failed to do so. We HAVE to start hitting open shots, or it won't get any better.

Part of that is they arent good looks at 3 and that is because there is not enough movement on offense and also no sets from Loser.

 

[daqman]

Part of that is they arent good looks at 3 and that is because there is not enough movement on offense and also no sets from Loser.

and part of it might be that some of the players have mentally checked out and just aren't focused.

 

[Boom Soon]

and part of it might be that some of the players have mentally checked out and just aren't focused.

I’ve found, from my limited experience of coaching young players, is that defense is one of the best ways to tell how bought in a team is. All kids, no matter the level, want to score. A kid doesn’t have to be bought into the program to want to put up big numbers on offense. But a team that plays tough defense is especially locked in to what their coach wants. Because defense is hard. And I don’t think Moser just forgot to coach defense. That has never been an issue since he got here. But this year the defensive issues have been a factor since day one. It makes me wonder if there’s been some locker room problems since day one. And now it’s catching up to the offense too. Just my two cents.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I'm not saying we don't need a new coach, because I do believe it's time for a change. However, it doesn't matter who the coach is...if your best players can't make open shots...you're going to struggle mightily to win. Our starting backcourt has gone 3-14 and 2-14 from 3 in the past two games (that's 18%!!). Both of these games were ones we had a chance to win, and failed to do so. We HAVE to start hitting open shots, or it won't get any better.

Well, there are a lot of ugly college basketball games where teams shoot like crap and still win because they defend their butts off. ISU is good offensively this season but was winning with great defense the past few years. Michigan State wins lots of rock fights. Tennessee. Houston, obviously. If a team can only win by shooting well, it says a lot about the identity of the team.

 

[steverocks35]

I'm not saying we don't need a new coach, because I do believe it's time for a change. However, it doesn't matter who the coach is...if your best players can't make open shots...you're going to struggle mightily to win. Our starting backcourt has gone 3-14 and 2-14 from 3 in the past two games (that's 18%!!). Both of these games were ones we had a chance to win, and failed to do so. We HAVE to start hitting open shots, or it won't get any better.

There are a lot of factors involved in being effective on offense, not just shooting. We’re a low assist team because our coach has no offensive plan. We play lots of hero ball. The ball sticks and we end up jacking up prayers at the end of the shot clock. The players have no accountability. If you know you have to take good shots and run good offense or you’re going to sit, then you’ll do those things and the shooting will improve. It’s not just “oh well they didn’t make shots.” We also make tons of boneheaded plays. You can chalk that up to a particular player or two if it’s confined to one season but we’ve seen over the last 5 years the Moser pattern of bad passes and dumb turnovers. Moser gets paid more money than most of us can even dream of to make sure these things don’t happen. Good coaches make sure their kids do the little things that lead to winning plays. If you make enough winning plays you’ll win games. Moser’s teams do not do this. If we win it’s in spite of his coaching.

 

[61sooner]

Andy Enfield at SMU?

 

[mict085]

Andy Enfield at SMU?

OU can’t afford him or his buyout.

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

Andy Enfield at SMU?

Oklahoma ties through his wife, if I remember correctly. She is an OSU grad.

Rick Hart, former SMU AD, is rumored to be a leading AD candidate. He hired Enfield at SMU (with the help of some well-heeled BMDs).

I'm not sure if we can hire a coach from a Power conference at this point. That's a name worth considering, though.

 

[soonertrash77]

5 games in 5 days in Nashville shooting 60% from 3. What if we just become NC State and Kevin Keatts this thing to a Moser extension lmao

Keep in mind the year after KK went to the FF he didn’t win enough games to qualify for the ACC tournament and they fired him right after that season