Is This Rock Bottom For the Program?

Shameless. The only sales pitch must be.. "yeah he hasn't made the tournament in 4 years but listen, that is all bc ou fans don't come to the games well enough and all ou's fault, remember that final 4 10 years ago? Eh? Remember?"
Porter still has a good reputation in the basketball world. To us, he's the guy that couldn't get it done at OU. Outside OU, he's the guy that took Loyola to the Final Four.

By all accounts, he's a good guy that has a lot of friends in the profession. He just hasn't gotten it done here.
 
Porter still has a good reputation in the basketball world. To us, he's the guy that couldn't get it done at OU. Outside OU, he's the guy that took Loyola to the Final Four.

By all accounts, he's a good guy that has a lot of friends in the profession. He just hasn't gotten it done here.
I'm so tired of hearing this. I seriously doubt any legit program would even consider hiring him. He will have to go back to the mid (or low) major level once he is finally gone from OU. I don't care if he has friends in the profession.

There are a lot of mediocre coaches who have made a FF. Lots of them wash out of the profession. There is a reason he was at low level programs for two decades. He clearly wasn't a hot candidate till he caught lightning in a bottle. Now, given a chance to coach at a higher level, he has shown who he really is as a coach.
 
Yes. Not sure where, but he'll head back to the Midwest. Perhaps Drake if McCollum takes a bigger job?

Porter has a good agent that is getting his name out there for other jobs. I saw his name floated for the Indiana job. Crazy but true. As I told someone on another board, Porter is closer to being fired by Oklahoma than to being hired by Indiana.
A friend of mine used to be involved in the Indiana program. We were talking the other day and he was asking if they could take Porter from us. When I explained why the answer was, yes, he changed his tune a bit. Porter is going to have to take a step down before he takes a step back up.
 
I'm so tired of hearing this. I seriously doubt any legit program would even consider hiring him. He will have to go back to the mid (or low) major level once he is finally gone from OU. I don't care if he has friends in the profession.

There are a lot of mediocre coaches who have made a FF. Lots of them wash out of the profession. There is a reason he was at low level programs for two decades. He clearly wasn't a hot candidate till he caught lightning in a bottle. Now, given a chance to coach at a higher level, he has shown who he really is as a coach.
He will indeed have to go to a lower level if he wants to be a head coach again. I'm just saying he has a very good reputation outside OU circles.
 
He will indeed have to go to a lower level if he wants to be a head coach again. I'm just saying he has a very good reputation outside OU circles.
Sources? I mean, if he had a very good reputation as a coach, those people would hire him. Liking him doesn't mean people think he is a good coach at this level.
 
I'm so tired of hearing this. I seriously doubt any legit program would even consider hiring him. He will have to go back to the mid (or low) major level once he is finally gone from OU. I don't care if he has friends in the profession.

There are a lot of mediocre coaches who have made a FF. Lots of them wash out of the profession. There is a reason he was at low level programs for two decades. He clearly wasn't a hot candidate till he caught lightning in a bottle. Now, given a chance to coach at a higher level, he has shown who he really is as a coach.
He’ll go to work at espn as an analyst. Greenberg couldn’t cut it as a coach either. He’ll be the Mack brown of their basketball broadcasts.
 
Porter still has a good reputation in the basketball world. To us, he's the guy that couldn't get it done at OU. Outside OU, he's the guy that took Loyola to the Final Four.

By all accounts, he's a good guy that has a lot of friends in the profession. He just hasn't gotten it done here.
It should be pretty obvious that the final four run was a fluke
 
Not even close to the same situation. A lot of people are going to eat crow after football season this year.
Probably not the people you expect, after a season where they will have to bust their butts to make a bowl.
 
Sources? I mean, if he had a very good reputation as a coach, those people would hire him. Liking him doesn't mean people think he is a good coach at this level.
Lots of fans from other teams have interest in Porter Moser. That Final Four goes a long way, whether or not he is a good person, he still has that rep from Loyola.

Mid-Major teams will be interested if he wants out. Look for dominos to fall with Indiana and see what opens up from there or openings up from plucked head coaches.

IMO, if his buyout was less, he would be gone already.

That being said, he is back on the hot seat. Just need to find a good way to either take a small hit on the buyout for a smaller market school, or bite the bullet.

I will say, per the discord, I do not like the first names floated as replacements, but do not think those are very well sourced. (tbh)
 
Lots of fans from other teams have interest in Porter Moser. That Final Four goes a long way, whether or not he is a good person, he still has that rep from Loyola.

Mid-Major teams will be interested if he wants out. Look for dominos to fall with Indiana and see what opens up from there or openings up from plucked head coaches.

IMO, if his buyout was less, he would be gone already.

That being said, he is back on the hot seat. Just need to find a good way to either take a small hit on the buyout for a smaller market school, or bite the bullet.

I will say, per the discord, I do not like the first names floated as replacements, but do not think those are very well sourced. (tbh)
Oh I don’t doubt that fans think that way. But if the poster was suggesting schools/ADs at any major programs still think of him as a really good coach, I would call BS on that. They may say nice things about him because that’s what people do, but people who pay attention see what has happened here.

And your point about the buyout is a good one. I’m sure it’ll be offset to some degree since I agree that a mid major will hire him for probably a couple million per year.
 
Oh I don’t doubt that fans think that way. But if the poster was suggesting schools/ADs at any major programs still think of him as a really good coach, I would call BS on that. They may say nice things about him because that’s what people do, but people who pay attention see what has happened here.

And your point about the buyout is a good one. I’m sure it’ll be offset to some degree since I agree that a mid major will hire him for probably a couple million per year
He's a good coach, sometimes you just have to find a good level/fit.
 
Porter still has a good reputation in the basketball world. To us, he's the guy that couldn't get it done at OU. Outside OU, he's the guy that took Loyola to the Final Four.

By all accounts, he's a good guy that has a lot of friends in the profession. He just hasn't gotten it done here.
He had his shot at the big leagues. He failed. It was his first high major job at 55 years old. He’s going back to his level.
 
He's a good coach, sometimes you just have to find a good level/fit.
He is a good coach but I believe his strength as a coach is building teams over time and not rebuilding a team every year. What college basketball is now does not play to his strengths.
 
He is a good coach but I believe his strength as a coach is building teams over time and not rebuilding a team every year. What college basketball is now does not play to his strengths.
Good coaches have teams who can inbound the ball. Good coaches have offensive schemes that work. Good coaches get the most out of the players they have. Good coaches make good thoughtful substitutions during games. Good coaches have teams who close out halves well. Moser does none of these things. He sucks.
 
Good coaches have teams who can inbound the ball. Good coaches have offensive schemes that work. Good coaches get the most out of the players they have. Good coaches make good thoughtful substitutions during games. Good coaches have teams who close out halves well. Moser does none of these things. He sucks.
good coaches have players that improve as the year goes on ..

I was thinking about this yesterday in regards to Fears ... early in the year all we heard was "Moser knew he would make mistakes but he has to let him play through them" .. and that worked Fears was playing loose (sometimes too loose ) and free .. and was borderline dominate.

in conf play (especially after the rough start) Moser has gone back to his micro management ways ..

and the Team and Fears in particular are playing tight ..
 
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good coaches have players that improve as the year goes on ..

I was thinking about this yesterday in regards to Fears ... early in the year all we heard was "Moser knew he would make mistakes but he has to let him play through them" .. and that worked Fears was playing loose (sometimes too loose ) and free .. and was borderline dominate.

in conf play (especially after the rough start) Moser has gone back to his micro management ways ..

and the Team and Fears in particular are playing tight ..
Yep, that and the never-ending revolving door substitutions make it tough to get in a groove and stay in it.
 
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