Marcus smart just hit a fan!

DenverSooner said:
This makes no sense. You can't beat someone when you disagree with their speech. Clearly any and all types of private retribution is not allowed
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But you can be fired for telling your boss to stick it where the sun doesn't shine, athletes lose endorsement deals for saying stupid things, etc. The government cannot arrest you for saying those things, but that doesn't mean your speech is without consequences.
 
Desmond Mason was just on ESPN and pretty much said those of you that think the fans words matter are wrong. He said people said racist things to him during games. He said you get hit, pushed, and otherwise given the business when you fall in the stands. It is simply part of the game and never justifies touching a fan
 
152219 said:
But you can be fired for telling your boss to stick it where the sun doesn't shine, athletes lose endorsement deals for saying stupid things, etc. The government cannot arrest you for saying those things, but that doesn't mean your speech is without consequences.
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Tech is the government. You can't be this stupid. I really hope you don't have a degree from OU.
 
DenverSooner said:
Desmond Mason was just on ESPN and pretty much said those of you that think the fans words matter are wrong. He said people said racist things to him during games. He said you get hit, pushed, and otherwise given the business when you fall in the stands. It is simply part of the game and never justifies touching a fan
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Agreed. Smart should be suspended and I don't see how the Big 12 will set aprecedent by not suspending because it will allow other athletes to enter the stands and go after fans.
 
Free speech is not an absolute. There are laws against libel and verbal harassment. The latter tend to be regarded more seriously if applied to race, gender, and other such differences. Since most are state laws, the consequences vary by state.
 
DenverSooner said:
Tech is the government. You can't be this stupid. I really hope you don't have a degree from OU.
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Again, have boosters been banned from attending state institution sporting events? Yes or no?

LOL, I thought the same thing about you on Friday with your awful strawman argument.
 
sybarite said:
Free speech is not an absolute. There are laws against libel and verbal harassment. The latter tend to be regarded more seriously if applied to race, gender, and other such differences. Since most are state laws, the consequences vary by state.
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Someone appears to have a tough time understanding that.
 
ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms said:
Did anyone see ESPNs interview with Des Mason? N word was a regular occurrence. You suck it up keep your calm.


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How is a school's fans frequently using the N word and no one has heard about it before now? The same fans that are at Lubbock are at Texas, OSU, and OU......


I call bs.
 
steverocks35 said:
The fan has a right to say what he wants, he DOES NOT have the right to attend TT games.
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Fans scream obscenities at basketball games and the universities due nothing. Once they establish that precedence they really have a tough time saying F&@ker is allowed but N$&@er is not.

I do not think fans should scream racial slurs but I do think fans have that right. The appropriate response is the surrounding fans to shun and silence the seaker
 
I guess that chair smart kicked and beat up is racist too.This could be the second time in 3 years Jesse Jackson comes to Stillwater to defend a basketball player.
We should quit calling them cowboys and just start calling them "the victims"
 
DenverSooner said:
Tech is the government. You can't be this stupid. I really hope you don't have a degree from OU.
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Denver validates a well known rule of thumb. When most people reference the constitution or founding fathers to justify their position it's usually a tell they have no idea what they are talking about.

Lol @ any brain dead imbecile who says the constitution guarantees a persons right to be a racist free of consequences.
 
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152219 said:
That isn't a state action, but the ability of the school to restrict him from attending future games. You going to argue that is illegal? Because it isn't, as schools and the NCAA have banned boosters from affiliating before and will continue to do so when they deem necessary.

Guess we will see how this plays out.
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152219, I am reading everything you're writing on this topic. You are wise and reasonable. I like that.

I think I remember you from the old OU Insider board and I thought that back then too.
 
sperry said:
Again, the punishment should be determined by what was said. Any prosecutor or court of law would consider what was said in any potential assault case.
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It looked to me like Smart said something and the pushed him when he responded. So....do we get to consider what Smart said to him? I am sure he was not discussing the price of gas. If he did reply to the initial words from the fan with profanity or vulgarity then what? He should have taken the hand up the fans were giving him and walked off. He helped make it worse that would be taken into account too would it not?
 
robinT said:
152219, I am reading everything you're writing on this topic. You are wise and reasonable. I like that.

I think I remember you from the old OU Insider board and I thought that back then too.
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I was on OUInsider but only on the hoops board, which ultimately became this board. I don't post on any other boards, in particular the football boards because most make me shake my head.
 
152219 said:
I was on OUInsider but only on the hoops board, which ultimately became this board. I don't post on any other boards, in particular the football boards because most make me shake my head.
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Yeah, I remember you.

I posted under a different username at OUI. But, I don't post on that board at all anymore and haven't for years.

I show up here sporadically.
 
DenverSooner said:
Fans scream obscenities at basketball games and the universities due nothing. Once they establish that precedence they really have a tough time saying F&@ker is allowed but N$&@er is not.

I do not think fans should scream racial slurs but I do think fans have that right. The appropriate response is the surrounding fans to shun and silence the seaker
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Take 15 Denver and come back to us. People have the right to spread hate speech at a Bball game? You're crazy.
 
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