Marques Bolden Update

Smash Williams said:
I have no problem with people reading those sites, or with fans forming their own opinions. I just think it's crazy that people cite such sites as credible, reliable sources for a player's draft stock.

If I started my own mock draft site, and people then started referencing it as a credible gauge of a player's draft stock, I think that would be ridiculous.
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Why? If their mocks show to be as accurate as anyone elses, why is it not ok to reference? That is what I don't get.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
Why? If their mocks show to be as accurate as anyone elses, why is it not ok to reference? That is what I don't get.
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Aside from the reality that they're not as accurate?

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Why not just use Chad Ford's or Jonathan Givony's mock draft as a point of reference, rather than some random site that gets all of its draft intel from those guys?
 
Smash Williams said:
Aside from the reality that they're not as accurate?

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Why not just use Chad Ford's or Jonathan Givony's mock draft as a point of reference, rather than some random site that gets all of its draft intel from those guys?
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that tells me that some ignorant random fan run site with no sources is just as accurate as the experts.
 
but to answer your question, b/c it is alot easier to type in nbadraft.net than go to espn and search for mock drafts. It's convenient, has been around for awhile, is well known, and is just as accurate as the others.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
that tells me that some ignorant random fan run site with no sources is just as accurate as the experts.
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they change their mock wildly from month to month ... and they end up pretty much copying espn and draftexpress ...


their initial mocks are laughable ..
 
BoulderSooner said:
their initial mocks are laughable ..
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Does nobody else change their initial mocks?

Looking at 2017, both draft express and nbadraft.net look pretty similar...

I don't care one way or the other. Just find it funny that people are mocking a mock draft site that is basically just as accurate as everyone else. It seems to be the "it" thing to do....make fun of nbadraft.net
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
that tells me that some ignorant random fan run site with no sources is just as accurate as the experts.
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Of course copying an actual expert's mock draft on the day of the draft and tweaking it to make it "original" is going to produce comparable results. nbadraft.net is the kid who copies his friend's term paper, changes a few verb tenses, replaces a few words with synonyms, pawns off the plagiarized piece as original work, and gets a slightly lower grade.

SoonerBounce13 said:
but to answer your question, b/c it is alot easier to type in nbadraft.net than go to espn and search for mock drafts. It's convenient, has been around for awhile, is well known, and is just as accurate as the others.
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Is it really that difficult? Does your browser not have autocomplete enabled? When I type the letters "es" into my browser, it autocompletes to espn.com, with the next two suggestions being "espn.com/nba" and "espn.com/nba/draft". I literally type two letters, hit the down arrow twice, and press enter. Getting to draftexpress is even simpler. It differs from person to person, depending upon what other sites you visit, but it's not as if you have to click a bunch of links to get to either mock draft.
 
Thanks, guys, for those great updates on Marques Bolden. :ez-laugh:
 
hoopsaustin said:
Great thread... Would not read again
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I'll stop while i'm behind. Smash is an awesome poster with lots of knowledge. If you are on the opposite side of smash, there is a good chance you are on the wrong side:ez-laugh:
 
SilliSooner said:
True, I can certainly see how it went that way for athletic big man, Blake Griffin.
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Perry Jones, Mitch McGary, LeBryan Nash, Joakim Noah, Jared Sullinger...not every player who returns to school improves his draft stock. Some guys return and improve their stock, but plenty of players don't. Contrary to popular belief, returning to school carries plenty of risk, especially for a player like Labissiere, who's valued so highly solely based on potential rather than production.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
I'll stop while i'm behind. Smash is an awesome poster with lots of knowledge. If you are on the opposite side of smash, there is a good chance you are on the wrong side:ez-laugh:
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I'm on the wrong side my fair share of the time. Seven years ago I thought Willie Warren made a good decision by returning for his sophomore year.
 
BoulderSooner said:
they change their mock wildly from month to month ... and they end up pretty much copying espn and draftexpress ...


their initial mocks are laughable ..
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Lunardi's original bracketology he comes out with each year before the season is laughable to. As long as they update it I don't see the issue
 
Smash Williams said:
Perry Jones, Mitch McGary, LeBryan Nash, Joakim Noah, Jared Sullinger...not every player who returns to school improves his draft stock. Some guys return and improve their stock, but plenty of players don't. Contrary to popular belief, returning to school carries plenty of risk, especially for a player like Labissiere, who's valued so highly solely based on potential rather than production.
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The one I remember from OU who returned and should have jumped to the NBA was Ryan Minor. He was a 1st round pick if he had declared after his junior year. Instead he returned, didn't make it as a 2nd round choice and knocked around in baseball for a few years.

I always felt bad for him and believed he made a mistake by returning to OU.
 
usedtobe1 said:
The one I remember from OU who returned and should have jumped to the NBA was Ryan Minor. He was a 1st round pick if he had declared after his junior year. Instead he returned, didn't make it as a 2nd round choice and knocked around in baseball for a few years.

I always felt bad for him and believed he made a mistake by returning to OU.
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That's a good example. It's not as if Ryan was a troubled kid or returned to a bad coach or a dumpster fire of a program. He was a good, hard-working kid whose stock simply dropped.

Around this time almost every year, Harold Arceneaux crosses my mind at least once. Guy lit it up as a junior against UNC, had NBA scouts drooling, but returned to school for his senior year, only to go undrafted.

Returning to school as a good decision for some players, but if you're a definite first round guy, it's a huge gamble.
 
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