C'mon, BCS. One is a 9-time All-Star and 1st ballot Hall-of-Famer who has been on the All-NBA 1st, 2nd and 3rd team more times than not in his career. The other is a great defensive player, but only a 2-time All-Star. I'm not about to compare a 9-time All-Star to a 2-time All-Star in any sport. Plus, the two are different types of players. Holiday should be compared to someone like Mike Conley Jr. Holiday is better than Conley, but they're more similar than Holiday vs Dame.
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C'mon, BCS. One is a 9-time All-Star and 1st ballot Hall-of-Famer who has been on the All-NBA 1st, 2nd and 3rd team more times than not in his career. The other is a great defensive player, but only a 2-time All-Star. I'm not about to compare a 9-time All-Star to a 2-time All-Star in any sport. Plus, the two are different types of players. Holiday should be compared to someone like Mike Conley Jr. Holiday is better than Conley, but they're more similar than Holiday vs Dame.
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Yeah defense doesn’t get you on all star teams. I’m taking Holiday on my team over Dame.
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Yeah but they certainly can get you on all NBA teams and he’s never made one, not even third team.
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Ok what contending team would Lillard be better for over Holiday?
I’ve never said Lillard isn’t going to be viewed as the better player. I’m saying if I have a good/great team Holiday will improve the team more than Lillard.
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Marcus Smart set to sign with The Lakers. Supposedly, Luka recruited him. Contract is for two years at eleven million dollars.
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It is completely dependent on a team’s roster. A team that needs a scorer, someone who absolutely stresses the defense and can take over games, would improve much more with Dame than Jrue. A team needing a defensive minded player who is a fourth or fifth option would improve more with Jrue. But the reason this entire debate started was Coach making the ridiculous claim that Dame isn’t a winner. And all I’m saying is, in a team sport, that is a crazy thing to say. And I would bet that if you asked 30 GMs who they would rather build a franchise around (again, talking about when they were in their primes), they’d unanimously say Dame. It’s easier to find good defenders who are role players offensively than it is to find elite, top 10-15 players.
