Needed....new football coach!!

good riddance...i know this sounds like sour grapes but I was never really a fan. His game management and development and play calling was all questionable...and not just this year
 
I want a coach who acts like a drill sargeant, yet the players respect him and will go to battle for him and play with an edge.
 
He did a good job but not a great job. With minor exception he recruited great offensive players but rarely a better than average defensive player. Always seemed to lose an early game he should not have lost and then came on strong. This year an exception where we had a series of cliff hangers and then lost two of the last three and the conference championship.

I felt all season that we were not a top ten team. Even against Tulane our offensive and defensive lines were man handled. Never saw as many missed tackles as this year and when we hit a ball carrier we seemed to often get pushed back for additional yards.

We need to hit a home run with our next coach or the program will get weaker.
 
There is a lot of stuff coming to the surface, and I know rumors will be flying for a long time to come, but if he did some of the things former players, and media people are saying on Twitter, then he's a complete slime ball.
 
jmizzy4ou said:
There is a lot of stuff coming to the surface, and I know rumors will be flying for a long time to come, but if he did some of the things former players, and media people are saying on Twitter, then he's a complete slime ball.
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Could you share some of the accounts you're referencing? I'll admit I was so stunned by his departure that I'm a little bit obsessed with every revelation or rumor that's out there, which is not my usual approach.
 
jmizzy4ou said:
There is a lot of stuff coming to the surface, and I know rumors will be flying for a long time to come, but if he did some of the things former players, and media people are saying on Twitter, then he's a complete slime ball.
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Stuff I've heard, which is all rumors is:

This pretty much being a completed deal halfway through the season.

Recruited knowing he'd leave for USC & those recruits out west pretty much knew this.

Had a very brief conversation with the players saying he's leaving, not letting them vent, and only had the meeting because the players found out over social media.

Any of this the same info you've heard?

Also I'm assuming this thread is going to be moved over to Campus Corner?
 
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BCSooners said:
Stuff I've heard, which is all rumors is:

This pretty much being a completed deal halfway through the season.

Recruited knowing he'd leave for USC & those recruits out west pretty much knew this.

Had a very brief conversation with the players saying he's leaving, not letting them vent, and only had the meeting because the players found out over social media.

Any of this the same info you've heard?

Also I'm assuming this thread is going to be moved over to Campus Corner?
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Yes, roughly what I've heard. Some have said DeMarco Murray and Bonnito called out Riley during the meeting, but no real idea if that true. The meeting was reportedly very short. And Bob is reportedly pretty hot over the whole deal, despite the official response released to the media. Lincoln has certainly burned bridges.

1947 was the last time an OU head football coach left for another college program. May it be another 74 years before it happens again.
 
skyvue said:
Yes, roughly what I've heard. Some have said DeMarco Murray and Bonnito called out Riley during the meeting, but no real idea if that true. The meeting was reportedly very short. And Bob is reportedly pretty hot over the whole deal, despite the official response released to the media. Lincoln has certainly burned bridges.

1947 was the last time an OU head football coach left for another college program. May it be another 74 years before it happens again.
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If I'm Bob I'd want to beat his a**. Which I'm 100% sure he does.

Apparently Isaiah Thomas addresses some of the things on his show, I'll be very interested to give that a listen.
 
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skyvue said:
Yes, roughly what I've heard. Some have said DeMarco Murray and Bonnito called out Riley during the meeting, but no real idea if that true. The meeting was reportedly very short. And Bob is reportedly pretty hot over the whole deal, despite the official response released to the media. Lincoln has certainly burned bridges.

1947 was the last time an OU head football coach left for another college program. May it be another 74 years before it happens again.
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I read that, too! If even half of what has been reported is accurate, LR deserved to be called out! I’m surprised he made it out of that meeting with nothing more than a bruised ego.

Lincoln Riley is at the very least a liar of the worst kind! He lied to his players and to those he was recruiting. By all accounts he deceived the AD, the university’s president, and the man who stepped aside so he could be OU’s head football coach. I know what Bob said publicly when he heard the news, but that’s because he’s a gentleman. It’s highly unlikely we will ever know how he really feels.

I don’t blame LR or anyone else for doing what they believe is best for them and their family. It’s the way he did it I don’t like! And, there is too much smoke out there saying how it was done for most if not all of it to be true.

OU and the people who have supported Lincoln Riley the past few years, including the fans, didn’t deserve to be treated like this! I have a lot more I could say, but I’m a gentleman and I do my best to avoid using language that is not who I really am!
 
AdaSooner said:
I don’t blame LR or anyone else for doing what they believe is best for them and their family. It’s the way he did it I don’t like! And, there is too much smoke out there saying how it was done for most if not all of it to be true.
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The jury is still out on whether this will prove to be what is best for his family. He was already filthy rich and would have been paid more as the years went by. I posted this elsewhere, but in my view (and I know it's easy for someone like me -- basically a paycheck to paycheck guy-- to say), when an already wealthy person prioritizes more wealth over the well-being of those he purports to care about (and I'm not talking about his family here, although I have thoughts about that too), he has lost his way.

How much money is enough? Eight million a year (and climbing for another 10-15 years at OU) more than sets up his family for generations to come. Does doubling that (which isn't really accurate, considering the cost of living) make a huge difference? How much money can one family spend? How much money does it take to justify trashing the program the program that made you what you are, stiffing the players you left behind, the support staff that helped you succeed, the many thousands of fans who supported you and in fact put their hard-earned money into making you rich?

I don't know Riley personally and I try to be careful not to judge others -- I've got enough to keep me busy marshaling my own behavior -- but what we do know about how Riley handled this tells me either he's never been the man some of us thought he was, or his priorities have gone seriously askew. Seeing how Bob Stoops is handling this situation (and how he handled things when he stepped down) demonstrates very clearly the difference between the two men.

For one thing, Bob Stoops would never back down from a challenge, and it appears that is exactly what Riley has done. Gabe and Teddy said as much in their latest podcast episode; they both feel he's running to the PAC 12 because it's the path of least resistance, that he'd rather dominate that conference (can he? Remains to be seen) than tough it out in the SEC.
 
skyvue said:
Could you share some of the accounts you're referencing? I'll admit I was so stunned by his departure that I'm a little bit obsessed with every revelation or rumor that's out there, which is not my usual approach.
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I grew up with, and have been friends with a guy who QB'd during the Switzer years. He's very involved and connected to the Program. It took him forever to warm up to any coach after Switzer. He now loves Stoops. He told me one of our current starting receivers was so upset because when this story broke, he tried to call Riley and he wouldn't answer. His parents attempted to call him, and he wouldn't answer.

He also said recruits in this region were telling people OU cooled on them a few months ago, and began recruiting west coast guys much harder. Some of the former players and people involved wondered why they cooled on certain kids they surely could have landed....


He said Demarco Murray is very upset, but also very committed if the new coach wants him to stay. Those guys were blindsided. He said one of the coaches told him it all makes sense now because Riley has always been the hardest worker on the staff, but this season he seemed very detached and kinda just going thru the motions.

I'm not mad about a guy seeing a chance to better his life and that of his family. Look those kids in the eyes and tell them. Give them and their families the respect they gave you when you were in their homes. Also why blindside your staff like that? If it's truly because he wanted no parts of the SEC, and saw a better road to success in Cali, then so be it. He didn't owe us fans anything, but to handle this like he seems to be is a slap in the faces of all of the kids who can't go with him. He owed them better, and that's what the former players are upset about.....
 
jmizzy4ou said:
I grew up with, and have been friends with a guy who QB'd during the Switzer years.
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Tell Troy I still love him and that his ankle injury against Miami haunts me to this day!
 
skyvue said:
For one thing, Bob Stoops would never back down from a challenge, and it appears that is exactly what Riley has done. Gabe and Teddy said as much in their latest podcast episode; they both feel he's running to the PAC 12 because it's the path of least resistance, that he'd rather dominate that conference (can he? Remains to be seen) than tough it out in the SEC.
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I think this is the focal point of the argument for sure, and I agree 100% on the Stoops part. I think it's pretty clear Riley would just prefer to go to the P12 and go 11-1 or 12-0 on a yearly basis and dominate that crappy conference with little resistance, then (likely) get blasted in the playoff, as opposed to have to earn it the hard way in the SEC, where 9-3 could be considered super and anything above elite. He took the road less traveled and (apparently) went about it in the sleaziest of ways.

I saw a quote where Stoops told the team (I'm paraphrasing) "You're OU football. He isn't." I think that sums it up quite nicely.
 
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