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[MJSooner]

I remember sitting in them when they were red.

Those 1975 vintage plastic seats would be nice at auction. Historical souvenirs. OU will probably find something to do with Lloyd Noble, though, and keep those seats.

The padded seats have held up. At least in color. But the plastic ones have been off color for at least 25-30 years. Maybe put a couple in the mini HOF by the practice facility. LOL.

Weird how they changed the $$ seats on the risers to black this year.

I thought it was maybe to help disguise empty seats with the poor lighting in the seating area.

 

[inoref]

Porter knows he'll never get to coach in it.

He might, never know where he lands

 

[WTSooner]

Why is that not entirely accurate? It’s laid out in the Sooner Club Guide at soonerclub.com, nothing secret about it.

• 1 point per $100 donation for seats.
• 3 points per $100 for Cash Champion club donation.
• 1 point per season ticket purchased.

Based on those points, better off and get more points for donating extra to the SoonerClub not related to a seat donation vs buying seats for basketball.

Been a season ticket holder in both sports for 23 years and can attest this is the way it works for real.

But I will agree that Joe C has totally flubbed these recent pending facility announcements without any consideration of the average fans.

Those point totals mean nothing at the end of the day. No where close to enough points to really separate you in the pecking order for anything that matters.

 

[snydrosooner]

Those point totals mean nothing at the end of the day. No where close to enough points to really separate you in the pecking order for anything that matters.

When there was a waiting list for season football tickets, my family had upper deck basketball tickets at the time. They were told to get moved up the waiting list for football they needed to upgrade to lower level basketball, which of course was a minimum donation along with the ticket price.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Those point totals mean nothing at the end of the day. No where close to enough points to really separate you in the pecking order for anything that matters.

they very much matter for OU /texas tickets away game tickets and good bowl game tickets ..

 

[The_Banker]

they very much matter for OU /texas tickets away game tickets and good bowl game tickets ..

Correct, works for other sports you enjoy also. Requested 4 seats to the OU baseball regional in 2024 and these were the seats that got assigned because of donor level.

 

[WTSooner]

they very much matter for OU /texas tickets away game tickets and good bowl game tickets ..

One. Two. Five. Even ten points, don't matter. That isn't enough to move the needle. They give people 50 or 100 points to simply renew their tickets early. And you think a couple of points here and there is going to move the needle? It won't. I renewed early a few years ago and the 50-100 points I got for doing that didn't do anything for me.

If you are already in a good spot with points, adding 5 points might be move you a couple of rows better in your RRS seats, or something like that. At best.

 

[MJSooner]

One. Two. Five. Even ten points, don't matter. That isn't enough to move the needle. They give people 50 or 100 points to simply renew their tickets early. And you think a couple of points here and there is going to move the needle? It won't. I renewed early a few years ago and the 50-100 points I got for doing that didn't do anything for me.

If you are already in a good spot with points, adding 5 points might be move you a couple of rows better in your RRS seats, or something like that. At best.

The discussion wasn't about how many points mattered; the point was made that the lingering misconstrued policy was brought up that having basketball tickets helps your football privileges as a donor. Having basketball season tickets and not showing up, as some believe, does not help one with football tickets.

The reality is ticket purchases for any or all sports do not impact Sooner Club levels, other than 1 point. Under the current system, donations not tied to season tickets are where the most bang for the buck comes from when calculating one's Sooner Club level. The old system rewarded cash donations and seat donations equally. But simple math says one could spend the $500 or so cost of a basketball season ticket and get 1 point; or, give $500 to the Champions Fund and receive 15 points to the Sooner Club.

That was the reason for the Sooner Club points discussion. Though I agree with Boulder, those 5-10-20 points per year can make a difference on post season allocations.

 

[BoulderSooner]

One. Two. Five. Even ten points, don't matter. That isn't enough to move the needle. They give people 50 or 100 points to simply renew their tickets early. And you think a couple of points here and there is going to move the needle? It won't. I renewed early a few years ago and the 50-100 points I got for doing that didn't do anything for me.

If you are already in a good spot with points, adding 5 points might be move you a couple of rows better in your RRS seats, or something like that. At best.

lets say you pay 500 a ticket donation for football .. that is 15 points per seat ( lets say you have a pair) that is 30 current year points for the donation

the next year you get the same 30 .. plus 10 more for your prior year donation now you have 40 .

they next year it is 50 and so on and so forth ..


172 points puts you in the top 5,000 donor accounts ..

 

[BoulderSooner]

The discussion wasn't about how many points mattered; the point was made that the lingering misconstrued policy was brought up that having basketball tickets helps your football privileges as a donor. Having basketball season tickets and not showing up, as some believe, does not help one with football tickets.

The reality is ticket purchases for any or all sports do not impact Sooner Club levels, other than 1 point. Under the current system, donations not tied to season tickets are where the most bang for the buck comes from when calculating one's Sooner Club level. The old system rewarded cash donations and seat donations equally. But simple math says one could spend the $500 or so cost of a basketball season ticket and get 1 point; or, give to the Champions Fund and receive 15 points to the Sooner Club.

That was the reason for the Sooner Club points discussion. Though I agree with Boulder, those 5-10-20 points per year can make a difference on post season allocations.

the one aside from this .. is that while buying basketball tickets doesn't help with football ..

the big money football donors (who do donate well over the ticket required amount) .. in the past had large enough donations that they were able to buy bball tickets with out any additional donation ..

that changed when they moved the donations into 2 different pots (because of the IRS ) ..

 

[WichitaSooner]

It's interesting reading the posts about points because I know a lot of KU people who were very angry back in the early 2000s when Lew Perkins was their AD and implemented a points system to try to increase revenue. A lot of people who had had the same season tickets in Allen Fieldhouse for decades were very upset when they suddenly found themselves in worse seats, and the seats moved on pretty much an annual basis. One of my closest, lifelong friends played football for KU, lives in Chicago, and is a major booster, He was very smart about figuring out how to get the best basketball tickets possible. He gave a ton of money, but he also bought season tickets for just about every sport even though the football and basketball games are the only ones he ever attends. Point being, I think every athletic department pisses off some fans with their points system, while other fans are able to use it to their benefit if they have enough money, and/or figure out the best way to optimize their points.

 

[BoulderSooner]

It's interesting reading the posts about points because I know a lot of KU people who were very angry back in the early 2000s when Lew Perkins was their AD and implemented a points system to try to increase revenue. A lot of people who had had the same season tickets in Allen Fieldhouse for decades were very upset when they suddenly found themselves in worse seats, and the seats moved on pretty much an annual basis. One of my closest, lifelong friends played football for KU, lives in Chicago, and is a major booster, He was very smart about figuring out how to get the best basketball tickets possible. He gave a ton of money, but he also bought season tickets for just about every sport even though the football and basketball games are the only ones he ever attends. Point being, I think every athletic department pisses off some fans with their points system, while other fans are able to use it to their benefit if they have enough money, and/or figure out the best way to optimize their points.

generally speaking there is no reseating for OU sports .. ie as long as you pay the required donation you get the same seats each and every year and you can only move if someone doesn't renew ..


all of that is going to change with the new (terrible) west side renovation ... the entire stadium is going to be reseated based on priority points ..

 

[BoulderSooner]

also something that joe C did to hurt basketball is that they made the pregame tailgate and reserved parking even more exclusive ..


used to be that is you were in the lower level (first 5 rows on the side lines ) you paid 750 a seat .. plus the cost of tickets so 3k donation that put you in the pot for the pregame (and half time ) club .. and you got reserved parking ..

joe C changed that a few year back to 7500 donation requirement .. even though the per seat donation didn't change ..

ie he made the experice worse for OU basketball tickets holders who were spending the most money on bball tickets ..

 

[WTSooner]

lets say you pay 500 a ticket donation for football .. that is 15 points per seat ( lets say you have a pair) that is 30 current year points for the donation

the next year you get the same 30 .. plus 10 more for your prior year donation now you have 40 .

they next year it is 50 and so on and so forth ..


172 points puts you in the top 5,000 donor accounts ..

Those numbers don't jive with what I've seen.

If I'm getting 50 or 100 points for simply renewing season tickets early, with the numbers you have provided, that would make no sense. Significantly more points just for renewing early, but I saw no benefit two years ago when I did just that? I can't reconcile that information.

 

[WTSooner]

generally speaking there is no reseating for OU sports .. ie as long as you pay the required donation you get the same seats each and every year and you can only move if someone doesn't renew ..


all of that is going to change with the new (terrible) west side renovation ... the entire stadium is going to be reseated based on priority points ..

It will not be the entire stadium. I've done some asking around, and just like the South EZ renovation and the changes made for the move to the SEC, it will affect certain pockets of folks.

 

[BoulderSooner]

It will not be the entire stadium. I've done some asking around, and just like the South EZ renovation and the changes made for the move to the SEC, it will affect certain pockets of folks.

no it very much is the ENTIRE stadium including club seating and suites

Why is a stadium-wide reseating process necessary?
This renovation marks a defining moment for the future of Oklahoma Football. Because the project will completely transform the west side of the stadium, the movement and reconfiguration of seats across multiple sections make a stadium-wide reseating process necessary. This approach ensures a fair and consistent experience for all season ticket holders, giving all season ticket holders the opportunity to select new seat locations within the reimagined venue.

While details of the reseating process are still being finalized, every season ticket holder will be contacted by the end of the 2027 calendar year and be given the opportunity to review available seating options before the process officially begins.

Football - The Palace Project

The Palace Project for University of Oklahoma Sooners Football

soonersports.com

Does the stadium-wide reseating process include the premium areas such as the MidFirst Bank East Stadium Club and Suites and the Valero Champions Club, Loge Boxes and Suites?
Yes. Those who wish to remain in a premium area for the 2029 season - the target for project completion - will have the opportunity to secure a comparable seating option. Outreach to current premium seat holders, including those in the Valero Champions South Loge Box and South Club, will begin in November 2025 and continue over several months.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Those numbers don't jive with what I've seen.

If I'm getting 50 or 100 points for simply renewing season tickets early, with the numbers you have provided, that would make no sense. Significantly more points just for renewing early, but I saw no benefit two years ago when I did just that? I can't reconcile that information.

your renewal points don't carry forward

 

[WTSooner]

no it very much is the ENTIRE stadium including club seating and suites

Football - The Palace Project

The Palace Project for University of Oklahoma Sooners Football

soonersports.com

I don't really care about how they've worded their communication. It won't be the entire stadium. I'd say at least 40% of us won't be asked to move or make a decision. They aren't going to move people from the West side into the section I sit, but there aren't people in other sections that are going to take my spot either if they get relocated. That isn't how the other renovations worked. There will be a chunk of people that will be affected. MAYBE half the fans. Maybe.

 

[WTSooner]

your renewal points don't carry forward

Carry forward?

It's not done on a calendar year. If I renew my 2026 football season tickets in 2025, those points are for the 2026 season. I've been told that multiple times by multiple people within the OU ticket office. Same with extra (not required) donations (ie, the Sooner Club). If I donate in December, those points don't go away when the calendar rolls into January of the next year.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I don't really care about how they've worded their communication. It won't be the entire stadium. I'd say at least 40% of us won't be asked to move or make a decision. They aren't going to move people from the West side into the section I sit, but there aren't people in other sections that are going to take my spot either if they get relocated. That isn't how the other renovations worked. There will be a chunk of people that will be affected. MAYBE half the fans. Maybe.

lol it has already started .. and It 100% is the entire stadium