Pac 16 Basketball Scheduling?

[OUHoops]

How do you guys think they are going run the schedule?

If you played every team in your division twice that's 14 games, and then if you played one game against the eight teams in the other division that's 22 conference games and I just don't see that happening.

As an example, the Big East had 16 teams and played 18 conference games. If each Pac 16 team played 18 conference games, then you're talking about 14 against your division opponents and then one game series against four of the eight from the other side?

Is that how you guys invision the scheduling going down or do you think there's a better way to do it?

 

[bocabull]

IMO basketball has the biggest potential for improvement in level of play and fan interest in both attendance and TV viewership. This is where a Pac-16 TV network can really bring the bucks too by covering every single game.

Going to 22 games will be the wise play. OU easily has 6 boring games vs patsies that serve no purpose and can be replaced with exciting, revenue generating conference games.

The Pac-10 scheduling for basketball makes up for the travel distance by scheduling weekend games that only require 1 trip. To play all the Pacific Division teams OU would only need to make 2 west coast road trips per season (3 if you count the trip to play the Arizona schools). They will play USC/UCLA, Cal/Stanford, UW/ WSU and UO/OSU on either Thursday/Saturday or Friday/Sunday. So you travel to LA/Bay Area/Washington/Oregon and stay an extra night.

I really hope A&M brain farts to the SEC so we can get Kansas in here. When all is said and done I think the Pac-16 hoops potential is the real sleeping giant here.

I understand Cheno is scared of this because he is used to Kansas being the big fish and knows that joining with UCLA would make them second fiddle.

 

[Cheno]

I understand Cheno is scared of this because he is used to Kansas being the big fish and knows that joining with UCLA would make them second fiddle.

:ez-laugh: Yeah, I'm scared of UCLA. KU would dominate the Pac-16 like they did the Big 12. It would actually help recruiting the west coast.
I don't want to go because of the west coast time zone and the crappy Fox Sports telecasts. Seriously, when is the last time you've watched a relevant Pac-10 conference game? Think about it. No ESPN means No good basketball coverage. Sorry, but that's a fact. The Pac-10 gets the least amount of basketball coverage of any major conference.

 

[NickZepp]

I'm not sure if the new network will be with Fox Sports anymore. Maybe it will. There's definitely a chance for a TBS contract and maybe their own TV network.

 

[jwg]

I would like to see an 18 game schedule where everyone plays each team once and three teams twice. This is similar to the big east schedule except there are three home and away games with the same team rather than one. This would allow Ou to have home and away games with OSU, Texas, and OSU

 

[bocabull]

:The Pac-10 gets the least amount of basketball coverage of any major conference.

Thank you for proving my point. So remind us again what is the sleeping giant to be awoken? Like I said, it's less about football than people want to believe.

As for you owning the Big XII, you have won 4 of the last 10 titles, including 4 of the last 5. I would expect Kansas to have better teams but win 3 of 10 instead of 4 of 10 in the Pac-16.

 

[boksooner]

Basketball, baseball, etc are important because they will make up a large percentage of the programming of a conference network. And the Fox Sports deal expires for both conferences after the 2011 season. You will see a much better deal with a new unified conference.

 

[NickZepp]

Thank you for proving my point. So remind us again what is the sleeping giant to be awoken? Like I said, it's less about football than people want to believe.

As for you owning the Big XII, you have won 4 of the last 10 titles, including 4 of the last 5. I would expect Kansas to have better teams but win 3 of 10 instead of 4 of 10 in the Pac-16.

We'll see if this leads to a PAC-16 network which changes everything in all sports.

 

[Cheno]

I'm not sure if the new network will be with Fox Sports anymore. Maybe it will. There's definitely a chance for a TBS contract and maybe their own TV network.

TBS is horrible. Remember the college football experiment?
And their own cable network wouldn't give them national exposure.
ESPN is where it's at.

 

[Cheno]

And the Fox Sports deal expires for both conferences after the 2011 season. You will see a much better deal with a new unified conference.

Possibly but who knows. A main kicker is the pacific time zone. It always loses out to the eastern and central time zones.

 

[MNsooner]

Possibly but who knows. A main kicker is the pacific time zone. It always loses out to the eastern and central time zones.

Yeah, but if the new teams added are in the central time zone, I think it makes the Tv rights for the conference all the more appealing. This is, if anything, a problem partially solved by adding new teams.

 

[NickZepp]

California has roughly 35 million people
Texas has roughly 25 million people
Arizona has roughly 7 million people
Washington has roughly 6.5 million people
Oregon has roughly 4 million people
Oklahoma has roughly 3.5 million
if Utah is thrown in that's 2.5 million more

The Big 12 reached roughly 40 million people. Now this conference will reach more than double that based on the state populations. This doesn't include the nationwide fan following that Texas and OU have especially and that USC and some of the other PAC 10 teams probably have.

 

[Darwin]

How important is it to be the conference that provides ESPN the best games in the best time slots. They should add h to the name for hype, eshpn. I think they have too big an effect on perception but it only helps recruiting to be hyped by the talking heads. They made the Big East.

 

[Cheno]

How important is it to be the conference that provides ESPN the best games in the best time slots. They should add h to the name for hype, eshpn. I think they have too big an effect on perception but it only helps recruiting to be hyped by the talking heads. They made the Big East.

It's extremely important. ESPN is sports. ESPN now has the BCS games. You watch ABC and it says ESPN on ABC. ABC even realizes ESPN is sports.

Think about all the great college basketball conference games and rivalry games you've seen over the last few years. You think ESPN. Rivalry week with Duke/UNC, Big Monday, Super Tuesdays, the conference tourney's with the Syracuse 6 overtime game, etc. They are all on ESPN.
Tell me one relevant Pac-10 conference game you remember watching on Fox Sports? Fox Sports sucks.

 

[Seymore Cox]

I see it now, Pac 16 Mountain West Challenge.

 

[boksooner]

It's extremely important. ESPN is sports. ESPN now has the BCS games. You watch ABC and it says ESPN on ABC. ABC even realizes ESPN is sports.

Think about all the great college basketball conference games and rivalry games you've seen over the last few years. You think ESPN. Rivalry week with Duke/UNC, Big Monday, Super Tuesdays, the conference tourney's with the Syracuse 6 overtime game, etc. They are all on ESPN.
Tell me one relevant Pac-10 conference game you remember watching on Fox Sports? Fox Sports sucks.

The FSN deal expires(2011) before the new conference would even start playing(2012). So your argument is irrelevant.

Tell me how many memorable games have involved Texas, OU and OSU? Are you telling me that a Texas/UCLA or an OU/Arizona Big Monday game isn't going to be memorable?

The whole point of the expansion is to improve the conference coverage, not just from a geographical perspective, but also from a time zone perspective.

 

[Cheno]

The FSN deal expires(2011) before the new conference would even start playing(2012). So your argument is irrelevant.
Tell me how many memorable games have involved Texas, OU and OSU? Are you telling me that a Texas/UCLA or an OU/Arizona Big Monday game isn't going to be memorable?
The whole point of the expansion is to improve the conference coverage, not just from a geographical perspective, but also from a time zone perspective.

All speculation. ESPN has never wanted anything to do with the Pac-10.
If the Pac-16 cared about basketball coverage they'd be looking at KU. It's all about football and TV sets for it's on cable network. The interesting scenario is if the Pac-whatever is going to let UT pursue their own cable TV network like they want to.

 

[bocabull]

LOL @ ESPN wanting nothing to do with the Pac-10. You really don't get it. None of the lack of revenue generated by the Pac-10 has been about time zones or any of the other nonsense you cite.

The Pac-10 region has been exploding in population and wealth for a couple generations. They really have not cared about monetizing the conference because of their massive wealth.

So now the new commissioner has talked the Universities into monetization. It will be a piece of cake and will dwarf the revenue of the Big 10 and SEC.

 

[Cheno]

LOL @ ESPN wanting nothing to do with the Pac-10. You really don't get it. None of the lack of revenue generated by the Pac-10 has been about time zones or any of the other nonsense you cite.

The Pac-10 region has been exploding in population and wealth for a couple generations. They really have not cared about monetizing the conference because of their massive wealth.

So now the new commissioner has talked the Universities into monetization. It will be a piece of cake and will dwarf the revenue of the Big 10 and SEC.

So the Pac-10 hasn't wanted to be on ESPN or have good broadcast contracts?

 

[bocabull]

The Pac-10 has games on CBS and Fox Sports. They dictate the terms.

Whenever they are ready they will pop over to the Disney headquarters in Los Angeles and cut a deal. I would not be surprised if the new conference hooks up with Disney/ABC/ESPN to do a joint venture to run their sports network.

You see the Pac-10 has been in no rush because they don't need the money. They are not like the SEC schools desperate for cash constantly trying to squeeze every nickel out of their sports programs.