Postseason Play

[bigreddog]

Blake, Blake, Blake, I'm so glad we won so many games with one player on the floor. How disrepected towards the other players and coaches. I'm glad so many other players are in the league form all those years making it to the tournament.

 

[DenverSooner]

Sticking up for OU and calling out people who just continuously repeat aggy talking points make me a troll?

Which argument is more lame? Can't win without Blake (nobody wins without great players) or 5th year (like it matters what year your roster has to be rebuilt at the last minute)?

Capel has had plenty of success, he will have plenty more. Our rivals will always try to explain away our success as some fluke and only weak or fake OU fans will get sucked into it. There are really only 5 or 6 poster who continuously make the same lame points and guess what? NONE OF THEM WENT TO OU.

Who are those 5 or 6 people that didn't go to OU? I personally have two degrees from OU and I have said that this is unacceptable for year 5 and that Capel has not won without Blake Griffin. How can you possibly say he has won without Blake Griffin. His Big XII record without Blake Griffin is 10-22 or .3125.

It is hardly a talking point of OSU fans or other schools. In fact, I suspect fans of most other Big XII schools like Capel. I know I was a fan of Sean Sutton.

 

[seniorsooner]

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. See: Bocabull.

 

[40 Cal]

You know I was having a great night chilling at a place with some friends, watching other people on a stage...you know stuff you do when your young and come accross this, killed the greatness.

SO Wait, Wait, WAIT...Capel hasn't won a game without Blake Griffin. REALLY???? I find this unacceptable, to even say. He has won games. He had a winning season before Blake step foot at OU. 16-15, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, that's a winning season and that 16 number is there meaning wins. So yes Capel has won without Blake. Now if we are talking about not making it to the post season without Blake, that's different then saying he can't win.

And I am sorry to say Blake Griffin as great as he is did not win every game for us. OU basketball did not just put Blake vs 5 of the other teams players. It's a team sport, lets remember that.

Last season was a mistake, who knew those three players were drama queens. NO ONE, your liar if you say you did. They made mistakes, they were young and stupid, like all of us were. After having something bad in the system it takes sometime to fix it. I believe that next year with Capel we will be back in the NCAA tourney. Fire Capel and your looking about 3 years before that happens again. That is because all those good recruits, we are looking forward to and have a chance on walk out the door the same time Capel does.

Now this can't be a true fan if you don't go to OU, its crap. I accepted anybody to be an OU fan, even the bandwagon ones, jump on board. I just ask that we stop putting down a program we say we support and if you are a fan show up to the games and don't say I am glad I didn't go to the game.

Can't we just be supportive????
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[seniorsooner]

It's possible to support the program without accepting two of the worst seasons in the last 40 years of Oklahoma basketball. I might go so far as to say you're not really supporting the program if you just sit back and make excuses for it. We need to have a sense of urgency when it comes to getting this turned around. Next season we need to make a big leap or some serious changes need to be made.

 

[okcsooner83]

40 Cal, who are all those good recruits? OU doesn't have the talent to make the ncaa tourney any time soon. How can OU compete with the top teams in the big 12 next season with the way the roster looks?

 

[NickZepp]

40 Cal, who are all those good recruits? OU doesn't have the talent to make the ncaa tourney any time soon. How can OU compete with the top teams in the big 12 next season with the way the roster looks?

How does our style attract anyone? That's the biggest problem I have. Our style of play just isn't defined at all. It makes our talent look even worse.

 

[Big Old Booger]

40 Cal, who are all those good recruits? OU doesn't have the talent to make the ncaa tourney any time soon. How can OU compete with the top teams in the big 12 next season with the way the roster looks?

Those "big name" recruits he references are just like all the other "the big one got away" stories with Jeff Capel's recruiting.

I'm sure we are in on some big names, but the chances of us signing them is slim because one just has to look at the problems in Norman -- losing coach on the hot seat, possible NCAA sanctions, number of blowout losses each season, etc. -- and it's easy to see why they won't come here.

However, let's say we sign 1 maybe 2, which is possible, then who's to say they will come in and:

(a.) even be on the roster by the time basketball season rolls around (i.e. Chris Early, Ahmed, etc);
(b.) actually live up to the hype associated with their name (i.e. Ray Willis, Orlando Allen, Kyle Cannon, Kyle Hardrick, Tony Neysmith, etc.);
(c.) come to practice every day (i.e. TMG);
(d.) show up to volunteer workouts and do the workout without complaining (i.e. Crocker, WW);
(e.) actually like to be coached and play with passion 100% of the time (i.e. WW, TMG, Keith Gallon).

In short, just give me some talented players who like to leave it all on the court and play for the name on the front of the jersey rather than on the back. And, when they get here coach them up and teach them how to play defense, how to rebound, and how to fight for loose balls. Then, construct an offense that gives them a solid chance to win instead of just allowing the first person to step over the half-court line to shoot it.

This really isn't asking too much and Capel has failed to even show he can do this.

 

[AdaSooner]

It's possible to support the program without accepting two of the worst seasons in the last 40 years of Oklahoma basketball. I might go so far as to say you're not really supporting the program if you just sit back and make excuses for it. We need to have a sense of urgency when it comes to getting this turned around. Next season we need to make a big leap or some serious changes need to be made.

Exactly my thoughts, seniorsooner!

No one, and I do mean NO ONE, has been a bigger Capel supporter than me since the day he arrived in Norman. I dare boca or anyone else to prove me wrong. But I'm not about to sit idly by and pretend that I'm happy about the decline of OU's BB program in the last two seasons.

Am I eager to see Coach turn things around? You bet! Hopeful that he can do it? Absolutely! If he pulls it off, I will be the happiest fan alive. But my usually enthusiastic outlook is at an all-time low right now, because I really don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[DenverSooner]

But I'm not about to sit idly by and pretend that I'm happy about the decline of OU's BB program in the last two seasons.

The Capel club cannot even recognize that you are giving him a complete pass on his first year and counting a 7-9 Big XII season as a good season. Most of his critics give him a pass for his first season and are more than willing to call his second season a success notwithstanding the fact that his Big XII record was average by the standards set by the prior two coaches.

 

[40 Cal]

40 Cal, who are all those good recruits? OU doesn't have the talent to make the ncaa tourney any time soon. How can OU compete with the top teams in the big 12 next season with the way the roster looks?

Sorry I took some me time away from all the negativity. Who do we have coming in really thats a question? Look it up, how hard is it to do that.

Robert Goff is one guy coming in

Romero Osby is a guy who is here, but can't play cuz of transfer rules.

Those two help with the size.

Capel is trying to go for Cezar Guerrero a point guard.

Also there is one more scholarship openned.

Lastly all the players are here with one year playing experience and if you didn't know this that usually helps.

Also I never said I was happy with what happened last season, but I expected this after that. I am not going to be down on the program and talk crap and say they won't be able to pull it back together. When I know that they will.

 

[NickZepp]

Osby and Goff's numbers look real similar to Nick Thompson's numbers in JUCO.

 

[40 Cal]

Osby and Goff's numbers look real similar to Nick Thompson's numbers in JUCO.

I am sure you would find something negative. Why don't you look at there size and what they do on the court. Romero is about 15 pounds more and Goff is like 30 pounds more then Nick. Also Nick likes to plays outside not inside.

 

[NickZepp]

I honestly don't know how anyone is judging these guys because they are yet to play at OU. But if they are of Capel's caliber of players so far I already have my standards fairly low.

 

[40 Cal]

I honestly don't know how anyone is judging these guys because they are yet to play at OU. But if they are of Capel's caliber of players so far I already have my standards fairly low.

That's fine I really don't care where you set your standards, I have seen Osby play and he looks good. You feel you can judge just about anything else, but since it's postive you don't have anything to say.

Also let me get this right all of Capel's players aren't that great of caliber? Rethink what you just put.

 

[NickZepp]

Of the top 5 players in the Capel era 4 were probably Sampson recruits.

 

[40 Cal]

Of the top 5 players in the Capel era 4 were probably Sampson recruits.

Who are you top 5 players? Even if some of them were sampson's recruits, they were more developed under Capel, AJ and Longar. Also Taylor would have left if it was not for Sampson leaving.

 

[Tony]

Also Taylor would have left if it was not for Sampson leaving.

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[WaymanFan]

The Capel club cannot even recognize that you are giving him a complete pass on his first year and counting a 7-9 Big XII season as a good season. Most of his critics give him a pass for his first season and are more than willing to call his second season a success notwithstanding the fact that his Big XII record was average by the standards set by the prior two coaches.

Posts like these are why I appreciate posters like Seniorsooner - someone who doesn't like the job Coach Capel is doing, but won't revise history to make his point.

There is nothing really to debate about Coach Capel's first season. Most objective people will stipulate that a seasoned coach would have squeezed an extra victory or two out of that team...big deal. To say he should have won 20 games with that team is completely absurd. The team only won 20 games the previous year - and lost their top 3 players with no one of impact to replace them. Is it really that difficult to conclude 2007 was going to be a rebuilding season?

As for year two, Jeff Capel actually exceeded expectations. How? For only the second time in 20 years, OU actually won a 1st round NCAA Tournament game with a seed lower than #3. We were a putrid 1-7 the previous 20 years, despite three of those seven losses as a #4 seed. That's a FACT, not some revisionist theory.

 

[One More Rebound]

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