Sherri is WAY over paid! Why...

Well, Spock. I would disagree about Sherri. But, I see Oklahoma somewhat differently than do you which is why we differ so much politically. It is that political difference that I see limiting OU basketball, not just Sherri. She puts a better product on the floor than does the men's team as a rule.

You are mostly correct for the last decade. But to me none of the recent basketball coaches has been trying to sell the OU fans the same bill of goods as to how good their basketball team should be. Consequently the men's fans have not been disappointed quite as badly.

Rest assured I will he in my seat in LW4 today just as I have been when Sherri's team hits the court pumping her team to go get'em as I have for more than a decade.

She most likely will continue to exasperate me at times but she is my coach and I will support her. I just will never understand why she will not take the next step and do her job at the level she could. I will always find that unacceptable. I want her best job not just a great job!!!

With that I will make the sunshine pumpers happy and exit the board for the forseeable future. The is not a venue to discuss the pros and cons of OU WBB. Too many here want to make Sherri a member of the holy trinity not a mortal basketball coach. Too many of you scanctimonious poster here for me. Too few wants to deal with reality. I am out.
 
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For certain I do not dispute there can be differences between government and business accounting practices but I also know that fans do not arbitrarily make statements that WBB is assuming financial resonsibility for facilities they are not using and WBB cost are distorted. The athletic department annual report distributes expenses with facilities as a separate line item. The real discrepancy in allocation that can distort revenues and expenses by sport is the assignment of revenues from the conference. In the report I have it is listed as a one item conference revenue which we know is primarily revenue generated by the football television contract followed by MBB and WBB. None of those revenues are allocated to a sport and they amounted to 22% of 2013-14 revenue. The big loser? Football.

While WBB's conference distribution portion is significant relative to the other minor sports it is insignificant relative to football and probably less than 50% of that of MBB.

Facilities expenses are significant but less than football expense, external expense, other women's sports expense, other men's sports expense and on par with men's basketball expense, operational support services expense. WBB expense is about half that of MBB expense and on par with internal support services expense and academic support services expense.

This report is an annual report distributed to me as a donor to the athletic and academic departments at OU. It is not available online and always runs a year in arrears after each academic year has transpired. This years report does have a decrepency in that about 5% of the expenses are not listed which amounts to a little more than $5 million. I assume those monies are Boren's, Castiglione's, Stoops, Kruger's and Sherri's mad money.

To me this is not a discussion about whether Sherri is paid too much. The marketplace determines that. Hence she is paid what Joe C. and Boren feel is necessary to keep her happy and at OU. End of discussion. Vinny's point that Sherri is paid that of a top 5-8 women's basketball coach and therefore should have her team performing at that level has merit as a discussion item among OU fandom. Bob Stoops is compensated as a top 5 coach and fans want to hold him accountable and rightly so. It comes with the territory.

It appears Bob is taking action to fix the problem. Many fans are asking the question "what is Sherri doing to fix the problem". They are still awaiting an answer.

My only complaint with Sherri is her annual vow that OU is goal is to compete for conference and national championships. To me she is not taking the recruiting step necessary to meet those goals. Therefore if she is not going taking the steps necessary to win the championships they seek she needs to declare that they are going to be this best team they can be and quit generating false hopes for the OU fan. I can live with that just as I accept that the volleyball and soccer team are just going to be upper division conference participants. Men's gymnastics, women's gymnastics and softball I hope for and expect an occasional national championship just as do their coaches as their coaches have proven they will take the steps and make the effort to acheive their goals. Football and WBB not so much so.

How fans posting that OU WBB does not operate at the financial loss being reported by the athletic department is bogus. But to expect documentation to disprove their assertions without providing similar documentation supporting their position is idiotic.

Many do not think I am a WBB and Sherri fan but I retired to Norman to witness OU sports and have season football, MBB, WBB, baseball, softball and wrestling season tickets and frequently attend men's gymnastics, women's gymnastics and volleyball events to the tune of about 100 annually. I have seen virtually every game the Guys have played in LNC and many road games over the last decade. I support Sherri with my butt, my money and my time but I do not think she is stepping up and doing everything she could do to acheive her stated goals and I choose to be vocal.

At times I am just as hard on other coaches when their actions are less than their words. I do have inside information about some things regarding coaching and recruiting. Not about individuals but about concepts and practices and it is easy to see that Sherri is not doing all she can do to put the best team available on the floor.

I want her to acheive her goals but I do not see it happening in the near term future unless she significantly elevates her recruiting as she has begun to do with the return of Pam. The Sooners need to close on a Cox or a Holmes and maintain at least one similar player (difference maker) on the roster most years to be a national contender. Anything less is lip service to the fans.

The academic department always runs in the black by generally far less than $100,000 per year. Drop by sometime I will share the report.

GREAT POST and I 98% agree.
 
All I see in these 4 pages of posts are generalities.

What is Sherri doing or not doing regarding recruiting. Specifics, not generalities such as get better assistants or something like that.

Do any of us really know what a coach who does a good recruiting job do? Or what our present staff does or not do vs those standards?

Of course one sure method is to get your daughter on an elite AAU team and sit in the stands with the parents and recruit them. We know that works.

Forgive the sarchasm but couldn't resist. But please, specifics not generalities.

Last year's class was not highly rated but we may have a gem in Carter.

This year we have a 5* in Gabbi and a possible impact player in Vionese.

Next year only one recruit but not a top rated one.

After that is Mulkey and Dungee

And the following year we have LLanusa. But the real key to that year is to pick up some of the other highly rated in state players.

And we have to keep Dungee, Mulkey and Llanusa.
 
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Some of you people are absolutely blind. How many programs have been to 3 Final Fours in the last 12 years? I bet you can count the number on less than a hand. That's why Sherry is paid the way she is. Because she's one of the best. It's not complicated.
 
Some of you people are absolutely blind. How many programs have been to 3 Final Fours in the last 12 years? I bet you can count the number on less than a hand. That's why Sherry is paid the way she is. Because she's one of the best. It's not complicated.

How blind are you? We are NOT saying she hasn't done some Great things IN THE PAST. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!! Read the posts !!!!!!!!!! It's NOT complicated.

She WAS one of the best. She is NOT now one of the best. We are talking about the LAST 5 years if you would read. I LOVE what she did up until that point. But she has gotten Lazy and the facts are all over the place if you Homers would just open your eyes. Now come back with something, we just want our 1million per year worth on recruiting effort and coaching and developing the player there. If she is not up to maintaining her early on excellence then time to move along as we can get a Fantastic high effort coach for a million per.
 
Was she lazy from 2003-2005, too? What did you say then? That she got fat and happy after the Final Four run? Probably.

It's clear to me she has an outstanding young basketball team. We are on our way back to the top. Any time you are at a program for as long as she has, you will have peaks and valleys. It doesn't mean just because you've had a few down years (all but one year we are still winning tournament games and going to Sweet 16s) means your coach has lost it. Give me a break.
 
And as far as I can tell, she's doing a fine job recruiting. And this year has been a fantastic example of her ability to develop players. Open your eyes. Good heavens.
 
Just quit arguing with these negative posters. Do we get to the Final Four every year? Obviously not. These people who post like they think that is the ONLY measure of a coach are the most uninformed, foolish people in the world. They have no understanding of basketball or athletic competition.

Just laugh at them when they post. They are not OU fans. They may well be OSU fans or Baylor fans or who knows what - trying to disparage OU. Oh sure they will claim innocence and say they are the top OU fans in the US. This is a message board. They could be anyone. You know better than to fall for the "I love OU" empty claim when their posts verify that they don't like our coach, our players, our campus facilities, etc.

We are in 2nd place in the Big-12. We just won today by 23 points against the team just behind us in the conference. We are 3 games ahead of our nearest follower (who may drop to 4 games behind us tonight) and at least 4 games ahead of everyone else who trails us.

Think about it. If that is unacceptable to you then you are not posting seriously.

If they suggest it is time to fire Sherri - and when they talk about hiring a replacement due to her being overpaid that is EXACTLY what they are saying (no matter their protestations) - just respond with a simple, single phrase:

"That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard."
 
And as far as I can tell, she's doing a fine job recruiting. And this year has been a fantastic example of her ability to develop players. Open your eyes. Good heavens.

You are derranged hahaha. The program has been DOWN for 5 long years compared to what she is COMPENSATED. If you are compensated at a top 5 level your valley's are NOT 5 years long. And she has not signed a top 10 player in 5+ years like she used to. OPEN YOUR EYES. You are one of the sunshine pumpers on this board that ALWAYS attacks anyone who says anything but Yeah about OU and Sherri. And God in Heaven IS good.

Wow you pumpers are persistent!!! And some of the reason she has gotten in the tourney the last several years I believe is that OU was hosting hmmmmm? And DRob and most of the rest of her players NEVER learn or learned to value the ball TO's out the wassu. And this years team was awful in the preseason and then got it handed to them at a Baylor team that IS EVERY BIT AS YOUNG. The one who rides a broom in Waco is, and I HATE to admit this, a WAY better coach in all facets than Sherri is.

So as long as 5 year valleys are OK with you that's great, but they are not OK with me and not when there are better options at the level we are compensating.
 
And I know that's what my boss and my company says to me and everyone else, "You did great 5 or 6 years ago, so just keep plugging along" yeah right
 
That can't be the stupidest thing you have heard. If you have been on this board for a week, you have heard even dumber things. If you remain on the board for at least an hour, you may hear something yet more stupid tonight. It is just a bit surprising that they are here after a win. Usually, they only show up after losses.
 
Update:

Iowa State lost tonight, so the nearest team behind us is 4 games back.

Negative posters: We are closer to 1st place than 3rd place.
 
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And I know that's what my boss and my company says to me and everyone else, "You did great 5 or 6 years ago, so just keep plugging along" yeah right

Well I'll take your word for it. I'm not surprised your performance has gone way downhill based on the wisdom you show here.

But if your boss is keeping you, the boss must be your mom or dad.
 
In order to perform to the potential that the Big Twelve coaches thought of us at the beginning of the year, we have a big road ahead. We need to lose the next five games and hope that at least three teams win all five.
 
In order to perform to the potential that the Big Twelve coaches thought of us at the beginning of the year, we have a big road ahead. We need to lose the next five games and hope that at least three teams win all five.

I think you just told us who the Big-12 coach of the year should be.
 
THIS! ^^^^^ They are "I hate Sherri" fans! Nothing more, nothing less. Same drivel was being spewed when we went to back-to-back Final 4s. Thank you!

HAHAHA, once again HOMER kiss OU butt people who can't stand any negatives, don't know how you all get up everyday. ticcat, I have 12 OU season tickets in section 102 and have since Blakes first year so around 20+ years. I donate over $10,000 per year. I go to OU men's bball and Women's bbal and OU Softball (I was in the crowd for Both of our National titles) and OU Wrestling AND My BBA is from OU. Hmmmmmm I guess I'm just not a REAL OU fan :ez-roll:. You all are the one's who just sit at home on your computers and attack anyone who doesn't have a happy face on. When someone states a fact it just burns you all.

And IF you can read, please read many of my posts as I state many times that I like Sherri and have supported her BUT she has slidden terribly. If you doubt me just PM me and I can meet you, if you leave your computer, and I'll show you my documents to prove it. Bet you won't though
 
Well I'll take your word for it. I'm not surprised your performance has gone way downhill based on the wisdom you show here.

But if your boss is keeping you, the boss must be your mom or dad.



Well, I have to say you should change your screen name, it doesn't apply with this post.

And by the way, I have been in an industry for 27 years at a high level sales position, where you have to perform every year. I have been in the top 25% EVERY year and have had great reviews every year and raises (for which I am very thankful to the Lord for) and have won 6 President's Clubs (top 5%). And if you doubt me please PM me and I will meet you somewhere and show you since you doubt me, I have the documents.

Sweetheart, if you venture out into the REAL world, you will find that this is the case in most large businesses. And by the way, my company had global sales of 21.2 Billion last year and my "mom and dad" are 77 and 81 and long retired hahaha. You don't know how rediculous your statements are.
 
I think you just told us who the Big-12 coach of the year should be.

Uh, Mulkey. Her team is every bit as young as OU's and they are killing everyone. She wins the honor going away and I hate it. But sometimes if you are a rational person you have to admit the obvious. If you are a rational person.
 
And I know that's what my boss and my company says to me and everyone else, "You did great 5 or 6 years ago, so just keep plugging along" yeah right

You are acting like Sherri Coale has done nothing but lose games in the last five years. We're clearly close to making another run. Just look at our team this year & look what we have coming back and the level of recruits we have coming in. I've been following Coale since her first year, so I've seen her best and worst teams. I know the type of program she builds. In her tenure, Sherri's had what I would consider three waves of success, and we have 3 Final Fours to show for it. I believe wholeheartedly we are building on that fourth wave and another Final Four. And you'll look like a danged fool when that day comes.

And for the record, I would take Sherri Coale as my basketball coach over that comedy act down in Waco ten times out of ten. And I don't care how good of a defensive basketball coach Mulkey is. I'll pass on that act & all of the shady recruiting tactics.
 
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