This was one of Capel's biggest problems

And honestly this is why Capel will make a great assistant coach. He will be able to play the role of "big brother" to a "T". He will be a recruiting machine and someone to stroke the egos of the big time recruits after they have been chewed out by the head coach.
 
I don't think we are in much disagreement but I think this was his problem. You have to be a bit hard on your players, and that's something Capel was not.

You are completely wrong. Short memory? He was seen on national television blasting his players in timeouts. He banned them from the locker room for I don't even know how long.

Capel's biggest downfall was recruiting. More precisely, the evaluation of the character of recruits. He recruited some good players with bad attitudes.
 
You are completely wrong. Short memory? He was seen on national television blasting his players in timeouts. He banned them from the locker room for I don't even know how long.

Capel's biggest downfall was recruiting. More precisely, the evaluation of the character of recruits. He recruited some good players with bad attitudes.

I think I agree with this. He signed some kids who couldn't be disciplined by anyone.

Every team signs kids like this occasionally and they are often invited to go elsewhere. He signed way too many of them.
 
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You are completely wrong. Short memory? He was seen on national television blasting his players in timeouts. He banned them from the locker room for I don't even know how long.

Capel's biggest downfall was recruiting. More precisely, the evaluation of the character of recruits. He recruited some good players with bad attitudes.

I think it's impossible to point at any one part of his coaching and call it his biggest downfall.
 
And honestly this is why Capel will make a great assistant coach. He will be able to play the role of "big brother" to a "T". He will be a recruiting machine and someone to stroke the egos of the big time recruits after they have been chewed out by the head coach.

Good point. Which is why I don't know if he can utilize those skills as well while at Duke as he could as an assistant somewhere else, because Duke basically sells itself. But he can improve some of his shortcomings in other ways being with that program, so perhaps it evens out.
 
Capel's biggest downfall was recruiting. More precisely, the evaluation of the character of recruits.

Every team signs kids like this occasionally and they are often invited to go elsewhere. He signed way too many of them.

Agreed.
 
My take is Jeff Capel made some difficult decisions with some questionable talent and it backfired on him. Once the smoke cleared OU was in too deep. It would have been difficult to sell the program on back to back to back losing seasons IF that's how it were to pan out but OU wasn't going to wait around to see.

Two things I know for sure though, OU did the right thing by nabbing Kruger and Capel is a pretty damn good coach that made a young judgement error which I'm sure he'll learn and benefit from.
 
My take is Jeff Capel made some difficult decisions with some questionable talent and it backfired on him. Once the smoke cleared OU was in too deep. It would have been difficult to sell the program on back to back to back losing seasons IF that's how it were to pan out but OU wasn't going to wait around to see.

Two things I know for sure though, OU did the right thing by nabbing Kruger and Capel is a pretty damn good coach that made a young judgement error which I'm sure he'll learn and benefit from.

my thoughts as well. here comes boca...
 
The circumstance was that Capel had a big time job with high expectations. He was just a kid, and an arrogant one at that. He will learn more about becoming a good coach by looking back over his shoulder and watching how Kruger handles this program than he will by watching Coach K handle Duke.
 
The circumstance was that Capel had a big time job with high expectations. He was just a kid, and an arrogant one at that. He will learn more about becoming a good coach by looking back over his shoulder and watching how Kruger handles this program than he will by watching Coach K handle Duke.

He also needs somebody (as an asst) who can coach the X's and O's and someone who can evaluate character in recruits.

If he were to get that, he would be fine as a head coach.
 
The circumstance was that Capel had a big time job with high expectations. He was just a kid, and an arrogant one at that. He will learn more about becoming a good coach by looking back over his shoulder and watching how Kruger handles this program than he will by watching Coach K handle Duke.

Well said Gary.
 
He also needs somebody (as an asst) who can coach the X's and O's and someone who can evaluate character in recruits.If he were to get that, he would be fine as a head coach.

I think that is what most rational posters are pointing to when they say that he will learn from it. You act as if the guy never made a decent coaching move, and he will never learn to do those things more consistently.

I know that you don't like the guy, but your one-sided posts reek of bitterness/hatred, with very little rationale. Numerous coaches have failed miserably, gotten another chance, and looked like the 2nd coming of Wooden. Its called growth/learning. Please don't act like he can't succeed without others doing the " coaching for him".
 
I think that is what most rational posters are pointing to when they say that he will learn from it. You act as if the guy never made a decent coaching move, and he will never learn to do those things more consistently.

I know that you don't like the guy, but your one-sided posts reek of bitterness/hatred, with very little rationale. Numerous coaches have failed miserably, gotten another chance, and looked like the 2nd coming of Wooden. Its called growth/learning. Please don't act like he can't succeed without others doing the " coaching for him".

I'll believe it when I see it.

I live in the show me state now, so Jeff is going to have to show me. :)
 
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