2024-25 Season Plus / Minus after Louisville

[BoulderSooner]

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Kobe Elvis	102​	220:52​	6​
Jeremiah Fears	90​	197:16​	-4​
Duke Miles	86​	176:16​	0​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	69​	186:13​	13​
Jalon Moore	63​	198:15​	0​
Sam Godwin	44​	141:33​	2​
Brycen Goodine	30​	64:52​	8​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	23​	48:37​	0​
Mohamed Wague	19​	52:09​	DNP​
Dayton Forsythe	16​	47:13​	0​
Luke Northweather	10​	59:40​	0​
Reid Lovelace	0​	02:11​	DNP​
Jake Moser	-2​	02:43​	DNP​
​	​

 

[hoopsaustin]

Color me not swayed at all by plus/minus stats. I followed the thread all of last year and to me, I think they are just about worthless. It's largely luck and just about when you are subbed in or not imo. Am I totally off base?

 

[BCSooners]

Color me not swayed at all by plus/minus stats. I followed the thread all of last year and to me, I think they are just about worthless. It's largely luck and just about when you are subbed in or not imo. Am I totally off base?

For 1 game it can be skewed, but for multiple games in a row or a season I think it's an important stat.

You have to factor in how many minutes a kid gets and what is the team's average +-/game

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

I'll be honest....as a coach I've never used +/- extensively but I do think it holds value. Easy to see who is producing at a solid clip nightly and who is consistent.

I have a buddy who has won a couple of state titles who is a big time numbers person....he swears by +/- stuff.

 

[BCSooners]

I'll be honest....as a coach I've never used +/- extensively but I do think it holds value. Easy to see who is producing at a solid clip nightly and who is consistent.

I have a buddy who has won a couple of state titles who is a big time numbers person....he swears by +/- stuff.

I’ve used it more with lineups than just 1 person. But sometimes 1 persons +- is so different from the teams that you have to take notice.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I’ve used it more with lineups than just 1 person. But sometimes 1 persons +- is so different from the teams that you have to take notice.

i wish i had access to 2 man 3 man 4 man and 5 man +/- groups .. if anyone know where that is available let me know

 

[cbertus6]

i wish i had access to 2 man 3 man 4 man and 5 man +/- groups .. if anyone know where that is available let me know

You can sign up for a free version of CBBanalytics.com. It’s a great resource that I look at quite frequently, especially for advanced analytics. They do have advanced analytics for 2-5 man lineups as well

 

[BoulderSooner]

You can sign up for a free version of CBBanalytics.com. It’s a great resource that I look at quite frequently, especially for advanced analytics. They do have advanced analytics for 2-5 man lineups as well

awesome thank you

 

[BoulderSooner]

post Lindenwood Game 1

Name​	+/-​	MIN​
Kobe Elvis	34​	23:51​
Sam Godwin	26​	28:33​
Duke Miles	25​	24:34​
Brycen Goodine	25​	14:43​
Jalon Moore	19​	25:18​
Jeremiah Fears	16​	26:03​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	15​	26:28​
Mohamed Wague	6​	09:27​
Dayton Forsythe	3​	06:50​
Luke Northweather	1​	2:38​
Reid Lovelace	0​	01:05​
Jake Moser	-2​	01:37​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	-3​	07:25​
	​	​

 

[cbertus6]

From CBBanalytics.com, our best 4, 3, and 2 man lineups via net rating (I excluded 5-man because only 4 different lineup combinations had 6+ minutes together so far):

4-man lineup (min. 12 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Fears, Moore (+58.5 net rating on 12 minutes played)

3-man lineup (min. 20 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Moore (+50.0 net rating on 30 minutes played)

2-man lineup (min. 30 minutes): Elvis, Fears (+59.0 net rating on 33 minutes played)

 

[cbertus6]

Specifically breaking down Fears and his On/Off numbers:

When Fears is on the court: +38.9 Net Rating, 129.0 O Rating, 62.0% eFG%, 15.8% TOV%, 90.1 D Rating

When Fears is off the court: +27.5 Net Rating, 100.0 O Rating, 43.8% eFG%, 6.4% TOV%, 72.5 D Rating

 

[pnkranger]

Specifically breaking down Fears and his On/Off numbers:

When Fears is on the court: +38.9 Net Rating, 129.0 O Rating, 62.0% eFG%, 15.8% TOV%, 90.1 D Rating

When Fears is off the court: +27.5 Net Rating, 100.0 O Rating, 43.8% eFG%, 6.4% TOV%, 72.5 D Rating

He's the best freshman guard we've had since Trae. No question.

 

[BoulderSooner]

He's the best freshman guard we've had since Trae. No question.

and he is significantly better on D at this point in his career (while clearly not the shot maker)

 

[Soonerguy06]

Call me crazy but I think I saw a little more passion and defensive pressure so far than in players in seasons prior. Maybe this team will surprise us. It can't get a whole lot worse towards the end of the season then it has the last three before this one.

 

[BoulderSooner]

post Northwestern St

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Kobe Elvis	47​	56:10​	13​
Duke Miles	39​	56:53​	14​
Jeremiah Fears	38​	55:47​	22​
Jalon Moore	28​	54:19​	9​
Sam Godwin	25​	56:53​	-1​
Brycen Goodine	25​	14:43​	DNP​
Mohamed Wague	23​	21:07​	17​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	13​	47:59​	-2​
Luke Northweather	8​	7:35​	7​
Dayton Forsythe	1​	11:52​	-2​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	0​	12:49​	3​
Reid Lovelace	0​	01:05​	DNP​
Jake Moser	-2​	01:37​	DNP​
​	​

 

[BoulderSooner]

post Stetson

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Kobe Elvis	75​	90:46​	28​
Jeremiah Fears	48​	75:14​	10​
Duke Miles	47​	82:27​	8​
Jalon Moore	47​	82:47​	19​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	29​	75:18​	16​
Sam Godwin	25​	77:26​	0​
Brycen Goodine	25​	14:43​	DNP​
Mohamed Wague	23​	31:51​	0​
Dayton Forsythe	15​	29:23​	14​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	10​	28:37​	10​
Luke Northweather	8​	7:35​	DNP​
Reid Lovelace	0​	01:05​	DNP​
Jake Moser	-2​	01:37​	DNP​
​	​

 

[BoulderSooner]

post East Texas A&M

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Kobe Elvis	96​	122:43​	21​
Jeremiah Fears	78​	108:51​	30​
Duke Miles	75​	116:22​	28​
Jalon Moore	62​	105:38​	15​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	53​	101:26​	24​
Sam Godwin	34​	95:57​	9​
Brycen Goodine	25​	14:43​	DNP​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	24​	39:32​	14​
Mohamed Wague	23​	42:21​	0​
Dayton Forsythe	16​	37:41​	1​
Luke Northweather	8​	8:41​	0​
Reid Lovelace	0​	02:11​	0​
Jake Moser	-2​	02:43​	0​
​	​

 

[BoulderSooner]

after Providence

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Kobe Elvis	92​	156:58​	-4​
Jeremiah Fears	87​	139:52​	9​
Duke Miles	81​	137:14​	6​
Jalon Moore	56​	127:14​	-6​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	52​	128:03​	-1​
Sam Godwin	38​	111:32​	4​
Brycen Goodine	28​	33:39​	3​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	23​	46:37​	-1​
Mohamed Wague	22​	45:51​	-1​
Dayton Forsythe	16​	43:39​	2​
Luke Northweather	7​	22:17​	-1​
Reid Lovelace	0​	02:11​	DNP​
Jake Moser	-2​	02:43​	DNP​
​	​

 

[BoulderSooner]

after Arizona

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Kobe Elvis	96​	184:55​	4​
Jeremiah Fears	94​	173:16​	7​
Duke Miles	86​	164:17​	5​
Jalon Moore	63​	162:45​	7​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	56​	155:20​	4​
Sam Godwin	42​	121:08​	4​
Brycen Goodine	22​	45:51​	-6​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	23​	46:37​	DNP​
Mohamed Wague	19​	52:09​	-3​
Dayton Forsythe	16​	43:39​	DNP​
Luke Northweather	10​	42:59​	3​
Reid Lovelace	0​	02:11​	DNP​
Jake Moser	-2​	02:43​	DNP​
​	​

 

[cbertus6]

Our best 4, 3, and 2 man lineups with net ratings

4-man lineup (min. 35 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Fears, Moore with +43.5 Net Rating
3-man lineup (min. 50 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Fears with +49.1 Net Rating
2-man lineup (min. 80 minutes): Miles, Fears with +37.0 Net Rating

Also, Fears' on/off numbers below

On: +26.8 Net Rating, 123.6 O Rating, 96.8 D Rating, 16.4 TO%, 20.4% Forced TO%
Off: +14.9 Net Rating, 111.6 O Rating, 96.8 D Rating, 11.4 TO %, 17.8% Forced TO%