Asst Coach Search update?

[SoonerBounce13]

So we have been close to done for a week now...

 

[SuperHoops]

I'm pretty sure he does.

nep·o·tism
/ˈnepəˌtizəm/
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noun
the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.
"his years in office were marked by corruption and nepotism"
synonyms: favoritism, preferential treatment, keeping it in the family, the old boy network, looking

Nepotism refers to partiality to family whereas cronyism refers to partiality to a partner or friend. Favoritism, the broadest of the terms, refers to partiality based upon being part of a favored group, rather than job performance.[1]

 

[Eielson]

Not in the slightest. Recruiting had fallen off a cliff and we had subpar assistants across the board, every single one of whom would eventually be fired or forced out except for Cale Gundy. We finished in a 3 way tie for fourth place in the conference in 2014 with a 5-4 record, and were absolutely humiliated in the awful bowl we played in.

At our absolute lowest we finished in the top half of the conference with a conference record above .500. That's in no way, shape, or form comparable to what has happened to this basketball team over the past 3 years.

 

[CoachTalk]

Its been accepted. Announcement pending

 

[CoachTalk]

Official tomorrow

 

[Sooner04]

Not in the slightest. Recruiting had fallen off a cliff and we had subpar assistants across the board, every single one of whom would eventually be fired or forced out except for Cale Gundy. We finished in a 3 way tie for fourth place in the conference in 2014 with a 5-4 record, and were absolutely humiliated in the awful bowl we played in.

But that season was sandwiched between a Sugar Bowl win and a CFP appearance. That's a pretty far cry from the mediocre slow drip playing out inside the Lloyd Noble Center.

 

[CMSOONER]

Official tomorrow

Is said new hire a good recruiter and talent developer?

 

[skyvue]

Nepotism refers to partiality to family whereas cronyism refers to partiality to a partner or friend. Favoritism, the broadest of the terms, refers to partiality based upon being part of a favored group, rather than job performance.[1]

From https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/nepotism (an Oxford English Dictionary site):

The practice among those with power or influence of favouring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.

We can keep going back and forth about this, but is that the point of this thread? Do you think I didn't carefully consider my word choice in composing my post? Even if you're convinced (despite evidence presented to you) that I used the wrong word, did you for even a moment not grasp the point I was making? Does it give you a tingle to correct people on niggling (at best) "errors" that have nothing to do with the subject at hand? If so, I could throw in a typo for your pleasure or an "I could care less."

 

[sperry]

But that season was sandwiched between a Sugar Bowl win and a CFP appearance. That's a pretty far cry from the mediocre slow drip playing out inside the Lloyd Noble Center.

Loved that sugar bowl season, but that team dramatically overachieved. The 15 season was after you went out and made what I think will go down as the best assistant coach hire in history.

Again, Every single assistant from 2011 was fired or forced out aside from Cale gundy. That tells you all you need to know.

 

[CoachTalk]

Is said new hire a good recruiter and talent developer?

I’d say yes.

 

[vbdad]

I will go ahead and agree with skyvue here.... Its not surprising that Kruger, who has been a coach for a long time, has close friends that are also excellent coaches.

I am sure Bill Gates has friends that are excellent programmers.... George Clooney probably has friends that are great actors... etc.

I really don't like a coaching staff made up of a head coach and a bunch of shady recruiters like Pooh Williamson... Give me guys with head coaching experience who can develop talent, teach, mentor, coach basketball, etc any day.

Pooh Williamson isn't a shady recruiter. He has worked with Tubby Smith who is an upstanding guy and coach. Tubby was let go or encouraged to leave at Memphis and Kentucky basically because he was on the up and up.

 

[WTSooner]

Pooh Williamson isn't a shady recruiter. He has worked with Tubby Smith who is an upstanding guy and coach. Tubby was let go or encouraged to leave at Memphis and Kentucky basically because he was on the up and up.

The problem with Pooh, and Cason as well, as they are just mediocre assistant coaches. Nothing more, nothing less. High floor, low ceiling. There isn't much upside at this point.

I guess that'd be fine if our program was humming along, but I'd prefer if we were adding higher upside assistants at this point to try to get back on the up and up.

JMO.

 

[rickjames]

The problem with Pooh, and Cason as well, as they are just mediocre assistant coaches. Nothing more, nothing less. High floor, low ceiling. There isn't much upside at this point.

I guess that'd be fine if our program was humming along, but I'd prefer if we were adding higher upside assistants at this point to try to get back on the up and up.

JMO.

Any examples of coaches that could fit that mold?

 

[Eielson]

Pooh's resume is lightyears ahead of the average Lon hire.

 

[thebigabd]

Pooh Williamson isn't a shady recruiter. He has worked with Tubby Smith who is an upstanding guy and coach. Tubby was let go or encouraged to leave at Memphis and Kentucky basically because he was on the up and up.

Pooh has no value as a coach. Thats why he has worked for 18 schools.

 

[usedtobe1]

Pooh's resume is lightyears ahead of the average Lon hire.

I don’t agree with that. I think Jim Molinari has a pretty solid resume’ including 20 years as a head coach. The only knock on him is his age. Henson, Hill, and Crutchfield were solid. Carlin Hartman was the associate head coach at Rice before coming to OU. His bio says he was the lead recruiter for Jamal Bienemy, Austin Reaves, Kur Kuath, Victor Iwuakor, and Anyang Garang.

I don’t think Pooh is light years ahead of those guys.

 

[WTSooner]

Pooh has no value as a coach. Thats why he has worked for 18 schools.

Yep, that was the point I was getting at. That doesn't exactly scream success.

 

[skyvue]

Yep, that was the point I was getting at. That doesn't exactly scream success.

I'm eager to see the list of candidates you'd be happy to see hired; I trust you're working on compiling that now.

I'd be happy to see abd's list, too. Perhaps there are some juco coaches abd could submit as candidates? Or perhaps he'd prefer to cite them later as sure bets we foolishly passed on.

 

[AdaSooner]

Pooh has no value as a coach. Thats why he has worked for 18 schools.

Is your “18 schools” an exaggeration to make a point? If not, where did you get your list? His online wiki bio says he was an assistant at 12 schools not 18.

 

[Maverick008]

Is your “18 schools” an exaggeration to make a point? If not, where did you get your list? His online wiki bio says he was an assistant at 12 schools not 18.

Not to mention a lot if not all of the schools in the beginning of his career would be considered “stepping stone” jobs and on top of that Pooh moved from a couple schools to follow the head coach he was working for at the time (Wichita St. to A&M with Turgeon and Texas Tech to Memphis with Tubby Smith). When Smith was fired he then took the job at Miami.

To say he brings “noting to the table” as an assistant coach must mean they have been to a lot of practices to see him fail at his job first hand to make that comment more than just because he’s been to umpteen # of schools.....