Can you guys explain some Trump things to me?

[SoonerBounce13]

Reported 40-45% LGBT voting trump

I find this really really hard to believe.

I can believe 1 in every 4 or 5 black people voting for trump.
I can believe 3-4 in every 10 latinos voting for trump
But I can't see almost half the gays out there voting for trump

 

[sheepdogs1]

I find this really really hard to believe.

I can believe 1 in every 4 or 5 black people voting for trump.
I can believe 3-4 in every 10 latinos voting for trump
But I can't see almost half the gays out there voting for trump

Trump has had many gay friends over the course of his life. He also was the 1st president to take office and support marriage which was same sex. Richard Grenell became the 1st openly gay person to be appointed to a cabinet position, but of course liberals label him a homophobe.

 

[mict085]

I find this really really hard to believe.

I can believe 1 in every 4 or 5 black people voting for trump.
I can believe 3-4 in every 10 latinos voting for trump
But I can't see almost half the gays out there voting for trump

I agree, but there are a hell of a lot more gay conservatives than you think. Many people are getting tired of the violence and the rioting, as well as the democrat hypocrisy.

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[steverocks35]

State of the race as of today...

https://electoral-vote.com/

 

[steverocks35]

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Brand new Florida poll...

The race is starting to crystallize.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

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Brand new Florida poll...

The race is starting to crystallize.

 

[mict085]

Trump bringing peace to the Middle East and the liberal media doesn’t want to talk about it. LOL. Trump is winning with or without them.

This is historic.

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[stormspencer]

There is more horsesh!t in that post than there ever was in my pasture.

Trump: Doesn't care how many Americans die as long as long as the stock market is good. Has told more easily identified lies than any previous president. I think he's probably in the Guinness Book of Records for that. He's also been accused of rape more than any previous president. He is, to use a cliche, a pig. But enough of his good points. Our grandchildren and great-grand children will learn in their history books that he was the worst American president ever. It boggles my mind that anyone who has ever had a relative serve in the armed forces or has ever served themselves can support a man who thinks those who serve are 'suckers' and 'losers'.

And it boggles my mind that anyone with a brain actually believes that. We get it....you and your ilk hate the guy. I don't much care for him personally myself. But if he has been consistent on anything, it has been his staunch support for the military/law enforcement.

 

[sheepdogs1]

And it boggles my mind that anyone with a brain actually believes that. We get it....you and your ilk hate the guy. I don't much care for him personally myself. But if he has been consistent on anything, it has been his staunch support for the military/law enforcement.

I think we can both agree that if you have disdain for an individual then so be it, but to gin stuff up plainly lacks both integrity and character.

 

[thebigabd]

Listened to an interesting interview with former Arizona Senator Jeff Flake this morning... He basically said that Trump has infected the party, and said the GOP Senate can be broken into three groups:

1.) People who are horrified of Trump backlash, so support everything he says even though they strongly dislike him, his approach, etc.

2.) People who are privately working against Trump.

3.) People who are cheering him on.

I think the most interesting comment he made, in discussing current GOP Senators is that the vast majority of them had really high aspirations of legislating when they got to the Senate. They wanted the "Senate to be the Senate", in the way it has always been... He said that is dead now. There is no legitimate debate anymore. You are either with Trump, or against Trump. That's it. Carrying out his wishes or opposing them. It's not a true deliberative body anymore.

When he was asked why he is supporting Biden even though their policy positions are different, he said, paraphrasing "because Biden will bring the civility back and we can have those discussions, those debates. As Senators that is what we want to do. I can win a civil debate with a Democratic Senator on healthcare solutions, and then we can come to a compromise deal. There is none of that going on under Trump. There are no real debates, on policy or anything else, and I know that bothers every Senator who had hopes for coming to Washington and doing what Senators are supposed to do, instead of defending the President and blindly supporting him"....

He also said that Trump winning could be worse for the GOP than Trump losing.... Said 4 more years of Trump will turn even more people off, and possibly flip Texas blue, which creates all its own problems.

He said the most positive thing that can happen for the party is for Biden to win convincingly, which is what will show voters and elected officials that Trumpism is the wrong path, and then they can quickly come back with a new brand of conservatism that works, is inclusive, etc instead of what Trumpism brings.

 

[mict085]

Remember the fake story about Russian bounties on US soldiers? Another effort to make Trump look bad that was a lie. Just like the fake stories about him calling troops losers, and the many other political hit jobs that have been proven to be lies. The dems have nothing and they know it. Trump is winning.

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[SoonerBounce13]

It's not a true deliberative body anymore.

when was the last time it was? Has nothing to do with Trumnp and everything to do with how divided liberals and conservatives are.

When he was asked why he is supporting Biden even though their policy positions are different, he said, paraphrasing "because Biden will bring the civility back and we can have those discussions, those debates. As Senators that is what we want to do. I can win a civil debate with a Democratic Senator on healthcare solutions, and then we can come to a compromise deal. There is none of that going on under Trump. There are no real debates, on policy or anything else, and I know that bothers every Senator who had hopes for coming to Washington and doing what Senators are supposed to do, instead of defending the President and blindly supporting him"....

This isn't a Trump issue. Trump has no power to stop the senate from debating. This is ridiculous.

He also said that Trump winning could be worse for the GOP than Trump losing.... Said 4 more years of Trump will turn even more people off, and possibly flip Texas blue, which creates all its own problems.

He said the most positive thing that can happen for the party is for Biden to win convincingly, which is what will show voters and elected officials that Trumpism is the wrong path, and then they can quickly come back with a new brand of conservatism that works, is inclusive, etc instead of what Trumpism brings.

Well it is prety easy to see which category Flake is in

 

[mict085]

Listened to an interesting interview with former Arizona Senator Jeff Flake this morning... He basically said that Trump has infected the party, and said the GOP Senate can be broken into three groups:

1.) People who are horrified of Trump backlash, so support everything he says even though they strongly dislike him, his approach, etc.

2.) People who are privately working against Trump.

3.) People who are cheering him on.

I think the most interesting comment he made, in discussing current GOP Senators is that the vast majority of them had really high aspirations of legislating when they got to the Senate. They wanted the "Senate to be the Senate", in the way it has always been... He said that is dead now. There is no legitimate debate anymore. You are either with Trump, or against Trump. That's it. Carrying out his wishes or opposing them. It's not a true deliberative body anymore.

When he was asked why he is supporting Biden even though their policy positions are different, he said, paraphrasing "because Biden will bring the civility back and we can have those discussions, those debates. As Senators that is what we want to do. I can win a civil debate with a Democratic Senator on healthcare solutions, and then we can come to a compromise deal. There is none of that going on under Trump. There are no real debates, on policy or anything else, and I know that bothers every Senator who had hopes for coming to Washington and doing what Senators are supposed to do, instead of defending the President and blindly supporting him"....

He also said that Trump winning could be worse for the GOP than Trump losing.... Said 4 more years of Trump will turn even more people off, and possibly flip Texas blue, which creates all its own problems.

He said the most positive thing that can happen for the party is for Biden to win convincingly, which is what will show voters and elected officials that Trumpism is the wrong path, and then they can quickly come back with a new brand of conservatism that works, is inclusive, etc instead of what Trumpism brings.

LOL. Yeah, you should listen to the RINO. Hahahahahahaha. What a waste of everyone’s time.

Biden is in the early stages of dementia. He’s not going to be doing anything. Kamala already referred to the Harris administration with joe Biden because it’s no secret Biden is the Trojan horse to get kamala the presidency. She’s a total disaster.

Trump has done more great things in less than 4 years in office than any president in the last 32 years. Once we completely open up the country again, the economy will come roaring back, more jobs, less unemployment, capitalism, freedom, and the American dream will resume. This nonsense will be put to rest and we can get on with our lives in a free and just society. If Biden wins, God help us as the socialist/communists mob rule will be spreading to every hometown and the dems will sell out America and send more American jobs to China as we whore ourselves to the Chinese communist party.

 

[thebigabd]

This isn't a Trump issue. Trump has no power to stop the senate from debating. This is ridiculous.

If you openly disagree with Trump in a Senate debate, you are basically done. He will attack you on twitter, support your political opponents, create/back someone who literally says they are a "Trump Republican"... This is actually happening. Tommy Tuberville and others ran against other GOP members on the basis of being a Trump Republican and having Trumps back (literally saying those words).

You can't have a legitimate debate if you can't speak your own mind. That is what he is saying. They are all just mouthpieces for one man now.

when was the last time it was? Has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with how divided liberals and conservatives are.

Before Trump.

Well it is prety easy to see which category Flake is in

Yea, he wouldn't bend the knee and basically got kicked out of the party, as described above. But he is a conservative.

 

[thebigabd]

LOL. Yeah, you should listen to the RINO. Hahahahahahaha. What a waste of everyone’s time.

Exhibit A.

Disagree with Trump, and you aren't even a Republican now. He even coined a new name for it, RINO.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

If you openly disagree with Trump in a Senate debate, you are basically done. He will attack you on twitter, support your political opponents, create/back someone who literally says they are a "Trump Republican"... This is actually happening. Tommy Tuberville and others ran against other GOP members on the basis of being a Trump Republican and having Trumps back (literally saying those words).

You can't have a legitimate debate if you can't speak your own mind. That is what he is saying. They are all just mouthpieces for one man now.

And I think that is rubbish. He will attack you if you attack him. This is pretty laughable that you think the reason the senate can't get anything done is Trump. That is baloney.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Exhibit A.

Disagree with Trump, and you aren't even a Republican now. He even coined a new name for it, RINO.

Rino has been around a lot longer than trump.
And LOL at the senate debating and getting stuff done before trump. It has been a long time. It has been very divided for a long time. It isn't a trump thing. It is a society thing

 

[thebigabd]

Rino has been around a lot longer than trump.
And LOL at the senate debating and getting stuff done before trump. It has been a long time. It has been very divided for a long time. It isn't a trump thing. It is a society thing

We have thousands of pages of discussion, literally, on this forum. I honestly don't see the point anymore. You guys have boiled into this:

A.) Trump isn't responsible for anything. Trump hasn't done ANYTHING bad to the country. Trump is the victim.

B.) You back that up by making generic comments about how you don't like him. Even MicT tries to pull the "I don't like him" card, but basically worships him.

It's a weird position... He's perfect in everything he does, nothing is his fault, he isn't responsible for anything.... BUT, I don't like him.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

We have thousands of pages of discussion, literally, on this forum. I honestly don't see the point anymore. You guys have boiled into this:

A.) Trump isn't responsible for anything. Trump hasn't done ANYTHING bad to the country. Trump is the victim.

B.) You back that up by making generic comments about how you don't like him. Even MicT tries to pull the "I don't like him" card, but basically worships him.

It's a weird position... He's perfect in everything he does, nothing is his fault, he isn't responsible for anything.... BUT, I don't like him.

nope. We never said he does nothing wrong or that he hasn't lied or been incorrect on something.
Liberals make such ridiculous claims though that are partial or flat out lies that it is hard not to defend trump because the criticism is ridiculous.

You just attributed a term that has been around for a long time to Trump and that he is the reason that the senate can't work together. Do you realize how ridiculous this claim is? it is either flat out being deceitful or ignorance.

But I guess i'm a trump lover for pointing out that trump did not infact coin the term RINO

 

[thebigabd]

nope. We never said he does nothing wrong or that he hasn't lied or been incorrect on something.
Liberals make such ridiculous claims though that are partial or flat out lies that it is hard not to defend trump because the criticism is ridiculous.

You just attributed a term that has been around for a long time to Trump and that he is the reason that the senate can't work together. Do you realize how ridiculous this claim is? it is either flat out being deceitful or ignorance.

But I guess i'm a trump lover for pointing out that trump did not infact coin the term RINO

Ok, take the least important part of the whole thing and make it all about that. RINO is way more commonly used now than it ever has been, is the point I am making. And anymore, RINO = not 100% in line with Trump.

Mitt Romney is not a Republican in name only, neither is Flake. Those guys are real Republicans. That's the point I am making.