Can you guys explain some Trump things to me?

[sheepdogs1]

Some people could look to have there moral compasses calibrated there. Many things in life are dynamic thus things could change on a dime. And people could look elsewhere for these things.

Are we really saying nobody should look at the president as a way to conduct themselves in any way? That’s where Trump has taken us.

Why do you have to be so childish? I'm afraid I asked. Now your last point, unlike you're initial statement, is a great question.

This is my take. There was a tv personality named Matt Lauer. Matt was very successful and came across as intellectual, but at the same time an easy going fellow. Now I feel that more people "knew of" this man than actually "knew" him personally. Now for those that "knew of" Matt these people might have been impressed with him to the point that they were compelled to pattern at least some part of their life after him. If so, do you believe these people made a wise choice? I know I don't. Thus it is a person's own judgement as to who and where they get their moral compass calibrated, but they would be better served, in my opinion, to choose a person or place that they know much more about and are much more familiar with. When I drive a car in an unfamiliar place I drive with more caution than a place I am very familiar with. I wish people would really get to know the people they cherish, look up to, worship, if they have to worship people, then to blindly accept a person they really do not know. Many people marry a person and then realize "I do not know who this person is." Not a good take IN MY OPINION. In closing, there are many Matt Lauers in the landscape of life. Never judge a book by its cover.

 

[BCSooners]

Why do you have to be so childish? I'm afraid I asked. Now your last point, unlike you're initial statement, is a great question.

This is my take. There was a tv personality named Matt Lauer. Matt was very successful and came across as intellectual, but at the same time an easy going fellow. Now I feel that more people "knew of" this man than actually "knew" him personally. Now for those that "knew of" Matt these people might have been impressed with him to the point that they were compelled to pattern at least some part of their life after him. If so, do you believe these people made a wise choice? I know I don't. Thus it is a person's own judgement as to who and where they get their moral compass calibrated, but they would be better served, in my opinion, to choose a person or place that they know much more about and are much more familiar with. When I drive a car in an unfamiliar place I drive with more caution than a place I am very familiar with. I wish people would really get to know the people they cherish, look up to, worship, if they have to worship people, then to blindly accept a person they really do not know. Many people marry a person and then realize "I do not know who this person is." Not a good take IN MY OPINION.

I copied and pasted your response because I thought you’d see how ridiculous it is. Your constant analogies and stories usually either don’t have anything to do with the topic at hand or don’t add anything to the discussion.

If Trump was still a TV personality then I wouldn’t be as vocal of how I detest him, I did before he ran for office, and how bad he is at his job.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I copied and pasted your response because I thought you’d see how ridiculous it is. Your constant analogies and stories usually either don’t have anything to do with the topic at hand or don’t add anything to the discussion.

If Trump was still a TV personality then I wouldn’t be as vocal of how I detest him, I did before he ran for office, and how bad he is at his job.

You want people to look up to someone they do not know. I do not. Simple.

 

[BCSooners]

You want people to look up to someone they do not know. I do not. Simple.

It’s not even about looking up to him. It’s the job he’s doing, the divide he’s caused, and the embarrassment he is that make other countries lose respect for him & us.

 

[sheepdogs1]

It’s not even about looking up to him. It’s the job he’s doing, the divide he’s caused, and the embarrassment he is that make other countries lose respect for him & us.

Does this apply to one or all presidents?

I am talking about all presidents.

You said the following, "Are we really saying nobody should look at the president as a way to conduct themselves in any way?" (Yes, this was the basis for my "story.")

 

[BCSooners]

Does this apply to one or all presidents?

I am talking about all presidents.

You said the following, "Are we really saying nobody should look at the president as a way to conduct themselves in any way?" (Yes, this was the basis for my "story.")

In any way yes. I look at Trump and there’s nothing about him I respect or would want my behavior altered to his in any way. So I definitely don’t want him, and don’t think he’s fit, to be president.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

In any way yes. I look at Trump and there’s nothing about him I respect or would want my behavior altered to his in any way. So I definitely don’t want him, and don’t think he’s fit, to be president.

I totally understand that. Some people don't care as much about that though. Some prefer what he accomplishes in office over how he acts. I would guess that most pro trumpers wish he would lay off twitter and act a little more dignified...but at the end of the day, he is who he is. IMO, he is the least presidential acting president but I don't think he is much different than most of the more recent presidents either...he just doesn't fake anything

 

[AdaSooner]

Why weren’t you going off on the opposite opinion, that they will? I thought you were concerned with keeping it all about the facts.

If facts are so important to you, why do you ignore the claims you made about COVID-19 that were presented on this board as fact but proved to be wrong later?

Case in point the recent news about Hydroxychloroquine. You were all over the risks of using the drug to treat Covid patients when Trump mentioned it in a task force update. You were on a roll for weeks, calling him crazy for recommending a drug that put people’s life in danger. Never mind that Hydroxychloroquine has been used for years to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis.

If facts are so important to you, why didn’t you correct the error you made when the news broke about the faulty study Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine used to publish their reports on Hydroxychloroquine? Did it occur to you that someone with Covid might refuse to try the drug when you said it was dangerous, and in doing so miss an opportunity to shorten the life of the virus? After all, you’re a medical professional patients listen to. Trump is a lay person who doesn’t know the difference between Hydroxychloroquine and an Aspirin.

I added that last part tongue in cheek to point out how silly you were in blaming Trump for simply mentioning a drug in a press conference. My criticism of you for failing to correct the mistakes you’ve made is sincere. You obviously get off on negative news. I can’t recall a single time when you posted positive news about Covid. There have been several posts, just not by you. Prove me wrong and I will be happy to apologize.

 

[steverocks35]

If facts are so important to you, why do you ignore the claims you made about COVID-19 that were presented on this board as fact but proved to be wrong later?

Case in point the recent news about Hydroxychloroquine. You were all over the risks of using the drug to treat Covid patients when Trump mentioned it in a task force update. You were on a roll for weeks, calling him crazy for recommending a drug that put people’s life in danger. Never mind that Hydroxychloroquine has been used for years to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis.

If facts are so important to you, why didn’t you correct the error you made when the news broke about the faulty study Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine used to publish their reports on Hydroxychloroquine? Did it occur to you that someone with Covid might refuse to try the drug when you said it was dangerous, and in doing so miss an opportunity to shorten the life of the virus? After all, you’re a medical professional patients listen to. Trump is a lay person who doesn’t know the difference between Hydroxychloroquine and an Aspirin.

I added that last part tongue in cheek to point out how silly you were in blaming Trump for simply mentioning a drug in a press conference. My criticism of you for failing to correct the mistakes you’ve made is sincere. You obviously get off on negative news. I can’t recall a single time when you posted positive news about Covid. There have been several posts, just not by you. Prove me wrong and I will be happy to apologize.

First off, the reason I told him to focus on facts is because he was going on and on about parsing fact vs. opinion.

Secondly, on the subject of hydroxycholoroquine, it has NOT been proven effective. That Lancet study turns out to have been based on a bad set of initial data but there are plenty of other studies out there. People with Covid-19 absolutely SHOULD NOT take hydroxychlorquine, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

I STILL blame Trump for mentioning an unproven and potentially unsafe drug over and over and over in his press conferences. It was irresponsible and remains so.

I told you many times that there were plenty of people here posting positive Covid-19 things, but the fact of the matter is that there just aren't many positive things to report about Covid-19. EVEN NOW, cases are spiking in several states and we are in fact getting another burst of cases in Oklahoma. If you're looking for sunshine-pumping, seek it elsewhere.

 

[sheepdogs1]

If facts are so important to you, why do you ignore the claims you made about COVID-19 that were presented on this board as fact but proved to be wrong later?

Case in point the recent news about Hydroxychloroquine. You were all over the risks of using the drug to treat Covid patients when Trump mentioned it in a task force update. You were on a roll for weeks, calling him crazy for recommending a drug that put people’s life in danger. Never mind that Hydroxychloroquine has been used for years to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis.

If facts are so important to you, why didn’t you correct the error you made when the news broke about the faulty study Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine used to publish their reports on Hydroxychloroquine? Did it occur to you that someone with Covid might refuse to try the drug when you said it was dangerous, and in doing so miss an opportunity to shorten the life of the virus? After all, you’re a medical professional patients listen to. Trump is a lay person who doesn’t know the difference between Hydroxychloroquine and an Aspirin.

I added that last part tongue in cheek to point out how silly you were in blaming Trump for simply mentioning a drug in a press conference. My criticism of you for failing to correct the mistakes you’ve made is sincere. You obviously get off on negative news. I can’t recall a single time when you posted positive news about Covid. There have been several posts, just not by you. Prove me wrong and I will be happy to apologize.

All you are going to do is provoke an incalcitrant person and nothing else for some things never change.

 

[steverocks35]

All you are going to do is provoke an incalcitrant person and nothing else for some things never change.

That’s an opinion, not a fact

 

[AdaSooner]

All you are going to do is provoke an incalcitrant person and nothing else for some things never change.

Sure, why not? He’s still making crap up to cover his tracks.

I told you many times that there were plenty of people here posting positive Covid-19 things

Bet he can’t show me one time he told me that, much less “many times.” You challenged him once, too. Are you giving up?

 

[steverocks35]

Sure, why not? He’s still making crap up to cover his tracks.



Bet he can’t show me one time he told me that, much less “many times.” You challenged him once, too. Are you giving up?

I’m not making anything up... try again.

And I’m not digging through hundreds of pages of the thread to find it but I did tell you that.

I still haven’t figured out why you’re so obsessed with “good news” from me. Go google it, don’t rely on this website for your info.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Sure, why not? He’s still making crap up to cover his tracks.



Bet he can’t show me one time he told me that, much less “many times.” You challenged him once, too. Are you giving up?

If "Pork Chop" was only a sock puppet.

 

[AdaSooner]

I’m not making anything up... try again.

And I’m not digging through hundreds of pages of the thread to find it but I did tell you that.

I still haven’t figured out why you’re so obsessed with “good news” from me. Go google it, don’t rely on this website for your info.

Only a fool would rely on you for Covid news. You’re on the off-topic board now. That should tell you something!

Time to talk about basketball. I’m going back to the main forum.

 

[steverocks35]

Only a fool would rely on you for Covid news. You’re on the off-topic board now. That should tell you something!

Time to talk about basketball. I’m going back to the main forum.

There must be lots of fools here then. I’m not the one that got the thread moved, if it had stayed on-topic it would have been fine. Also, I didn’t ask you to come over here and comment. Now you’re acting all outraged. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[mict085]

Sure, keep making excuses for Trump abhorrent behavior, of course most of you don't care that he's completely immoral.

LOL. A democrat talking out of his ass about morality. That’s a freaking laugh.

 

[steverocks35]

LOL. A democrat talking out of his ass about morality. That’s a freaking laugh.

LOL, I thought you were the party of family values? Guess not.

 

[sheepdogs1]

LOL. A democrat talking out of his ass about morality. That’s a freaking laugh.

Network after network released people due to improper things said or done to women and most were liberals. The "party of convenience"strikes yet again. (or the party of black face painters is another of their titles) Chris Cuomo of CNN was backing the rioters the other day. I did not know you teach morality by being immoral. And before the Buffy's get upset Trump does not claim to be a beacon of morality like some proclaim, who will in time show they are anything but.


21 celebs/politicans called out for black face. I wonder how many were democrats?

https://www.insider.com/celebrities...for-a-plot-line-on-her-comedy-central-show-21

And a list provided by NBC of those personalities accused of violations against women.


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/s...ng-list-men-accused-sexual-misconduct-n816546

 

[mict085]

LOL, I thought you were the party of family values? Guess not.

Dude, you Democrat’s made damn sure character didn’t matter when Bill Clinton had his dick sucked in the White House. Bill pedophile Clinton and his good old buddy Epstein likely had hundreds of victims, but he’s your favorite president. You don’t give a crap about family values or character when talking about a democrat. Then you bring it up when it suits you.

You are a hypocrite.