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Porter Moser, consistently failing​

Porter Moser had a great nonconference season with Oklahoma in this campaign, but he also had a strong noncon season the previous year. This is now two straight years OU has dominated in November and December but then completely crumbled once the calendar turned to January and conference play began. If this happened once, it would be a weird, strange turn of events. When it happens two years in a row, it shows a pattern and a fundamental inability to make adjustments. Oklahoma fans can't be blamed for being turned off by this. They went through the wringer last season, when a gleaming nonconference resume was squandered by a series of collapses in Big 12 games. Now, the conference collapse under Porter Moser has become a continued trend in the SEC. It's really hard to sit here and say Oklahoma fans should accept another year of this. Moser, who guided Loyola Chicago to the 2018 Final Four and obviously has talent as a coach, just hasn't been able to get the job done in Norman. It would seem time for a reset for the coach and the school. Moser needs to find a job where he can start fresh and allow OU to find its next coach.

Big hitters​

Part of the hot seat, and the reality of coaches being fired, is that replacements are needed. Athletic directors have to have a candidate in mind if they are going to fire their current coach. At some schools, it's all about chasing the big guys. Indiana and Villanova, for instance, should make a run at Buzz Williams of Texas A&M or Grant McCasland of Texas Tech, coaches who have proved they can hack it at the high-major level. UNLV needs to take big swings if it does fire Kevin Kruger (which it absolutely should). Can these athletic directors at programs with proud basketball histories land the plane and find their Big Dog?

Coaches waiting for the big phone call​

Some programs will go for the big hitters. Other programs will make the call to the rising coach who has thrived at the mid-major level and is ready for the step up to the big time.
A few of those coaches who should get phone calls from ADs in search of a new coach: Ben McCollum of Drake; Randy Bennett of Saint Mary's (not likely to say yes, but always a guy ADs must call and force to say no); Matt Langel, Colgate; and Russell Turner, UC Irvine.
 
yeah, i think unless he comes up with about 3 upsets it's inevitable he's gone....which is probably for the best. Another year of this and there won't be ANY fans at the games.
 
lol for all those saying softball isn’t even close to men’s bball…oops

“The investment into basketball is never going to be at the level football is at OU. Since Moser has arrived, the locker rooms have been updated and he and his staff were given the impression other facilities would be improved as well. The lack of attendance at the 49-year-old Lloyd Noble Center remains an issue and softball ticket sales topped men’s basketball by about $600,000 in 2024.”
 
Soonerinkc said:
lol for all those saying softball isn’t even close to men’s bball…oops

“The investment into basketball is never going to be at the level football is at OU. Since Moser has arrived, the locker rooms have been updated and he and his staff were given the impression other facilities would be improved as well. The lack of attendance at the 49-year-old Lloyd Noble Center remains an issue and softball ticket sales topped men’s basketball by about $600,000 in 2024.”
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and tv money (which matters basketball is massively above softball)
 
Soonerinkc said:
lol for all those saying softball isn’t even close to men’s bball…oops

“The investment into basketball is never going to be at the level football is at OU. Since Moser has arrived, the locker rooms have been updated and he and his staff were given the impression other facilities would be improved as well. The lack of attendance at the 49-year-old Lloyd Noble Center remains an issue and softball ticket sales topped men’s basketball by about $600,000 in 2024.”
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Well softball does play almost double the home games as basketball. That helps.
 
Softball not only wins, they win big. They crush their opponents and win national championships. There's also a new park with expanded capacity.
 
Just saw this: Softball sold more tickets for fewer games than men's and women's hoops combined.
 
It's worth noting that not all of last season's home games were played at Love's Field.

We're all frustrated with attendance at men's basketball games, but the connection between performance and attendance can't be denied. The women's team, on the other hand, definitely deserves better. They've been terrific for four seasons under Coach Baranczyk.
 
skyvue said:
Most of the comments here that have ragged on softball haven't been about TV money.
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I'm certainly NOT saying this to rag on the softball team, as I've been following them since around the 2010 mark which is well before a large section of our fanbase. That being said, many of the conversations about the differences between the two sports (softball and men's bball) that I have seen on this site have been about the money they are respectively bringing in for the university. TV money absolutely does belong in part of those conversations. It says a ton about the softball team that their ticket sales are doing so well - and they deserve that recognition - but even with the softball team at the top of their sport and the basketball team at the lowest point it's been in over a decade, the bball team will rake in more profit. I'm not going to argue that there aren't some who do in fact rag on the softball team, but the point I'm making is that the university should be investing proportionately more resources into the areas that are bringing in larger chunks of the revenue and profit. That's just good business.
 
cbertus6 said:
That's just good business.
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For many--certainly for me--the overarching focus on money is ruining college sports. I'm not naive; I know it's always been a key factor, but now it drives everything and collegiate sports are losing their luster (for me and others). Your final sentence clangs harshly on my ear (I'm not criticizing you--I'm criticizing the state of collegiate sports). A university is not a business, and neither should collegiate sports be viewed as strictly a business. As they move more in that direction, they interest and inspire me less and less.

OU men's hoops doesn't make more money on a merit system; it makes that money because men's basketball is a one of the more popular sports. But men's sports got a decades-long head start on women's sports. If we only funnel money into perpetuating the status quo, not only is it, in my opinion, unjust, we will miss out on a great deal of fun and joy. Women deserve their place at the table. Asking that they bring in as much money as the men at this stage is not only unrealistic, it's impossible. Men's sports have an entrenched advantage that certainly isn't going away any time soon and may never do so.
 
AnotherSoonerInTX said:
Just saw this: Softball sold more tickets for fewer games than men's and women's hoops combined.
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not more tickets more money from tickets ..

womens basketball tickets cost very very little .. OU softball tickets are not cheap ..

this also does not include donations to buy the tickets .. in either mens basketball or softball .


and so you know if you want to sit in the first 10 rows for OU basketball you are paying 1000 a seat plus the cost of tickets ..
 
Does the money for softball include regionals, super regional and WCWS? The world series is wildly popular, but I have no clue how much and how teams are paid. I would assume the further you go and more games you play you get a bigger share, but how much that actually is I have no clue.
I think weekday game times are a significant factor in attendance at both men's and women's, especially with those of us who drive from OKC/Edmond. In the "good old days" except for Big Monday all weekday home games for both were at 7. Now a 7 game is rare- typically 6 or 8, and that goes without mentioning the ridiculous outlier of the men's game vs Texas at 9. Tough to get to a 6 pm game living in Edmond, and 8 game ends late and home late. Doable but not ideal. I know TV rules all and you have to go where and when the conference says and where the $$ is. But time is a factor.
 
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