supermachoman
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I can't help but think of back to the future, where the headlines change from "committed" to "commended"
oh I wish that were true..
oh I wish that were true..
Agreed. If I had read the headline and not the story, I would never have guessed that Pledger and Fitz were the players arrested for petty theft.
What were they thinking?!!! Never mind, they weren't thinking, and therein lies the problem. I just don't understand why would anyone would risk their reputation and their career on merchandise they could purchase by picking up aluminum cans on the side of the road?
College athletes are held to a higher standard than normal students and teenagers. They are there on a free ride, getting a free education and they should be held to a higher standard, so something like this cannot be overlooked. Just because the crime has "petty" in the official term doesn't make it any less severe. Attempting to shoplift, whatever it may be, is still theft and they still should be punished for it.
With that said when handled internally you can't imagine what some of that punishment is and some would probably rather miss a game than go through that.
Good post.I'm so not ready to condemn these guys. Capel hasn't been shy about dispensing discipline in the past so his no comment reply has me curious about the events. For instance, what involvement if any did the Police have. From the sketchy reports we're heard one could draw a conclusion that a security guard saw them put some shirts in a bag and he assumed they were going to shop lift. Did they leave the store without paying ? That's a very relevant question which shows intent.
One is left under the impression at times they have overstepped boundaries and gone too far. Here is a link:
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2007/07/27/dillards-suit-part-pattern/
I trust Capel to get to the bottom of this and I will respect his decision.
I'm so not ready to condemn these guys. Capel hasn't been shy about dispensing discipline in the past so his no comment reply has me curious about the events. For instance, what involvement if any did the Police have. From the sketchy reports we're heard one could draw a conclusion that a security guard saw them put some shirts in a bag and he assumed they were going to shop lift. Did they leave the store without paying ? That's a very relevant question which shows intent.
One is left under the impression at times they have overstepped boundaries and gone too far. Here is a link:
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2007/07/27/dillards-suit-part-pattern/
I trust Capel to get to the bottom of this and I will respect his decision.
I'm so not ready to condemn these guys. Capel hasn't been shy about dispensing discipline in the past so his no comment reply has me curious about the events. For instance, what involvement if any did the Police have. From the sketchy reports we're heard one could draw a conclusion that a security guard saw them put some shirts in a bag and he assumed they were going to shop lift. Did they leave the store without paying ? That's a very relevant question which shows intent.
One is left under the impression at times they have overstepped boundaries and gone too far. Here is a link:
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2007/07/27/dillards-suit-part-pattern/
I trust Capel to get to the bottom of this and I will respect his decision.
We have people suggesting that this is normal behavior. It may be usual, but not normal. It is also unacceptable.
We have people suggesting that athletes are held to higher standards, that they would suffer no consequences if they simply had academic scholarships. What is this based on? What evidence suggests that those on academic scholarship are permitted such behavior? We are talking about a potential felony theft. We used to suspend students from school for such behavior, any student. Has that changed? Would we want any representative of the university involved in a felony?
We have seen suggestions that Rhymes and Plumley had prior history that resulted in what should have been harsher punishment. The accusations about Plumley came out after she was arrested. Until then, we did not know of her prior problems. Rhymes----firing machine guns? Get serious.
If these young men did commit a felony, a one or two game suspension is inadequate. That is the type of stuff that we railed about when it happened at Nebraska and Texas, when 60 Minutes did a story the tendency of the Nebraska administration to let that stuff slide. You don't let this happen without letting them know that they will suffer the consequences if they do not represent the university properly. A scholarship is a privilege, and it comes with conditions. I don't think larceny is one of the accepted conditions. Don't soft pedal this.
We have people suggesting that this is normal behavior. It may be usual, but not normal. It is also unacceptable.
We have people suggesting that athletes are held to higher standards, that they would suffer no consequences if they simply had academic scholarships. What is this based on? What evidence suggests that those on academic scholarship are permitted such behavior? We are talking about a potential felony theft. We used to suspend students from school for such behavior, any student. Has that changed? Would we want any representative of the university involved in a felony?
We have seen suggestions that Rhymes and Plumley had prior history that resulted in what should have been harsher punishment. The accusations about Plumley came out after she was arrested. Until then, we did not know of her prior problems. Rhymes----firing machine guns? Get serious.
If these young men did commit a felony, a one or two game suspension is inadequate. That is the type of stuff that we railed about when it happened at Nebraska and Texas, when 60 Minutes did a story the tendency of the Nebraska administration to let that stuff slide. You don't let this happen without letting them know that they will suffer the consequences if they do not represent the university properly. A scholarship is a privilege, and it comes with conditions. I don't think larceny is one of the accepted conditions. Don't soft pedal this.
We have people suggesting that this is normal behavior. It may be usual, but not normal. It is also unacceptable.
We have people suggesting that athletes are held to higher standards, that they would suffer no consequences if they simply had academic scholarships. What is this based on? What evidence suggests that those on academic scholarship are permitted such behavior? We are talking about a potential felony theft. We used to suspend students from school for such behavior, any student. Has that changed? Would we want any representative of the university involved in a felony?
We have seen suggestions that Rhymes and Plumley had prior history that resulted in what should have been harsher punishment. The accusations about Plumley came out after she was arrested. Until then, we did not know of her prior problems. Rhymes----firing machine guns? Get serious.
If these young men did commit a felony, a one or two game suspension is inadequate. That is the type of stuff that we railed about when it happened at Nebraska and Texas, when 60 Minutes did a story the tendency of the Nebraska administration to let that stuff slide. You don't let this happen without letting them know that they will suffer the consequences if they do not represent the university properly. A scholarship is a privilege, and it comes with conditions. I don't think larceny is one of the accepted conditions. Don't soft pedal this.
They do something similar to this in Dallas. At one time, I had the wire-rims off my 1986 Cadillac stolen three times in two years. Each time, they only took three hubcaps.Dillards has off duty cops and other law enforcement guys working undercover all the time. I know because I sold a home to a guy who works with ATF during the day and he works part time as a undercover cop for Dillards at Penn Square.
If it's under $500 they get you charged with Larceny from a retailer, over $500 you get charged with a Felony Grand Theft. They don't cut any shoplifters any slack because they loose a bunch of dough every year to shoplifting.
we have people suggesting that this is normal behavior. It may be usual, but not normal. It is also unacceptable.
We have people suggesting that athletes are held to higher standards, that they would suffer no consequences if they simply had academic scholarships. What is this based on? What evidence suggests that those on academic scholarship are permitted such behavior? we are talking about a potential felony theft. we used to suspend students from school for such behavior, any student. Has that changed? Would we want any representative of the university involved in a felony?
We have seen suggestions that rhymes and plumley had prior history that resulted in what should have been harsher punishment. The accusations about plumley came out after she was arrested. Until then, we did not know of her prior problems. Rhymes----firing machine guns? Get serious.
If these young men did commit a felony, a one or two game suspension is inadequate. That is the type of stuff that we railed about when it happened at nebraska and texas, when 60 minutes did a story the tendency of the nebraska administration to let that stuff slide. You don't let this happen without letting them know that they will suffer the consequences if they do not represent the university properly. A scholarship is a privilege, and it comes with conditions. I don't think larceny is one of the accepted conditions. Don't soft pedal this.