Football question

[Eielson]

At some point, we have to stop talking about the thumb IMHO.

At some point. It hasn't even been a month since he had surgery and you've been acting like it was a year ago for almost 2 weeks.

 

[Eielson]

The OL is not healthy. Not even close imo. Mateer is not 100%. I think the only OL in the SEC more banged up than OU is South Carolina. “Very healthy” is not a good way to describe the offense.

Now, luckily there are dudes on staff who get paid a lot of money to make it work. So no excuses. But they do have one hand tied behind their back because of injuries.

Yeah, anybody trying to say this offense is "very healthy" is really reaching.

The defense overall is pretty healthy, but it's also playing at an elite level.

 

[Boom Soon]

Yeah, anybody trying to say this offense is "very healthy" is really reaching.

The defense overall is pretty healthy, but it's also playing at an elite level.

Funny how the defensive line actually attacks and moves forward and doesn’t get hurt. The offensive line moves backwards and gets rolled up on.

 

[Boom Soon]

At some point. It hasn't even been a month since he had surgery and you've been acting like it was a year ago for almost 2 weeks.

It was coaching malpractice to play him against Texas. He clearly was not even close to 100%. He may have been barely 50%. Being back by Ole Miss is the standard timeline for his injury. 4 weeks or so.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

It was coaching malpractice to play him against Texas. He clearly was not even close to 100%. He may have been barely 50%. Being back by Ole Miss is the standard timeline for his injury. 4 weeks or so.

Probably. And I don't think it is a coincidence that after Mateer played against texas, Hawkins decided to redshirt.
He's probably thinking "they won't even play me when the dude has a broken thumb and is throwing picks, I'm out"

 

[BoulderSooner]

Probably. And I don't think it is a coincidence that after Mateer played against texas, Hawkins decided to redshirt.
He's probably thinking "they won't even play me when the dude has a broken thumb and is throwing picks, I'm out"

the plan to RS hawkins has been in place ALL SEASON nothing new about it ..

 

[BoulderSooner]

It was coaching malpractice to play him against Texas. He clearly was not even close to 100%. He may have been barely 50%. Being back by Ole Miss is the standard timeline for his injury. 4 weeks or so.

I think you can look at it in 2 ways ... 1st if he doesn't throw 3 picks .. and just plays a little better OU has a good chance to win ..

but him playing poorly coming back early and having not practiced much (or at all) .. was foreseeable .. and an OU loss vs texas with the backup QB .. would not really hurt OU in the playoff race and would have been the smarter program thing to do ..

 

[WichitaSooner]

I am obviously not a Brent fan and don’t think he makes good decisions, but the decision to start Mateer against Texas doesn’t bother me at all. Hawkins just isn’t very good. If Mateer is medically cleared by the doctors and is telling you he can play, you play him. Sitting him because you think the committee won’t hold it against you if you lose with Hawkins is not the mentality I want. I know the 12-team playoff gives you more wiggle room to overcome a loss, but I still don’t think you should approach a game, especially a game against your rival, as if you can afford to play your backup because a loss won’t hurt you. If Hawkins had played well against Kent State and shown real growth from last season, then maybe it’s a fair question. But with his awful mechanics and inaccurate throws, there was no reason to think he’d be able to do much against Texas.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

the plan to RS hawkins has been in place ALL SEASON nothing new about it ..

I mean I think that was the general plan but that if anything happens to mateer he would play and if needed break the redshrit.
If mateer goes down again, I bet hawkins does not come in.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I am obviously not a Brent fan and don’t think he makes good decisions, but the decision to start Mateer against Texas doesn’t bother me at all. Hawkins just isn’t very good. If Mateer is medically cleared by the doctors and is telling you he can play, you play him. Sitting him because you think the committee won’t hold it against you if you lose with Hawkins is not the mentality I want. I know the 12-team playoff gives you more wiggle room to overcome a loss, but I still don’t think you should approach a game, especially a game against your rival, as if you can afford to play your backup because a loss won’t hurt you. If Hawkins had played well against Kent State and shown real growth from last season, then maybe it’s a fair question. But with his awful mechanics and inaccurate throws, there was no reason to think he’d be able to do much against Texas.

Agree. I'm out on hawkins. And I think he likely is looking for somewhere else in december

 

[BoulderSooner]

I mean I think that was the general plan but that if anything happens to mateer he would play and if needed break the redshrit.
If mateer goes down again, I bet hawkins does not come in.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

if mateer had a injury that would cause him to miss a game Hawkins would 100% start ..

if he gets knocked out of a tied game this weekend in the second Q hawkins will come in ..


if his helmet gets knocked off .. and he has to leave for 1 play .. it will not be hawkins ..

 

[BoulderSooner]

Agree. I'm out on hawkins. And I think he likely is looking for somewhere else in december

Mateer is almost for sure returning to OU next season