For All Those Putting Ultimate Faith in Joe Ca$tiglione

[daqman]

My dad and I used to go to a bunch of baseball games back in the day. Enos Semore and my dad were really good friends. In fact, my dad hired some baseball players back in the day to basically watch the irrigation and make sure the crops were getting watered as much as they needed. :ez-laugh:

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[Big Old Booger]

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Probably should keep that on the down-low as I'm not sure what the statute of limitations is for NCAA sanctions. :ez-laugh:

 

[Cleavon Little]

Probably should keep that on the down-low as I'm not sure what the statute of limitations is for NCAA sanctions. :ez-laugh:

With OU, no statute of limitations. Ohio State, USC, different story.

 

[Max Power]

With OU, no statute of limitations. Ohio State, USC, different story.

Or anyone one from the old SW Conference if you saw the SMU 30 for 30

 

[BanjoCharley]

to make the correct decision PLEASE remember this..........and heed my words!




He's the guy who hired Jeff Capel..........

Oh man I had completely forgotten that, thanks so much for bringing that unknown fact to light.

 

[Sooner04]

OK, I'll slow down. Thanks for reading it three times.

Stoops is here solely because of Joe C. He is also pretty good. If you got your wish, maybe Stoops would leave. Maybe you would like that, because you could continue to rant about how much OU sucks. Except since we would also suck in football, you could talk about it on a football board too. A football board plus a basketball board equals two boards. Two boards is twice as many opportunities for people like you to spout off unrehearsed crap.

Got it?

1. I do not wish Ca$tiglione would leave. I wish we'd quit holding him to some impossible standard where he never makes mistakes because he does. Hiring Jeff Capel was a mistake, and I hope he corrects it.

2. David Boren had plenty to do with the hiring of Bob Stoops too.

3. I get no pleasure in the ineptness of our BBall program. I go to the games, I see how empty the arena has become. I know how empty I feel going to Senior Day knowing there's nothing on the line.

4. My original post was far from unrehearsed. It took me a long time to find that picture of Cosmo Kramer.

 

[Cleavon Little]

1. and 2. Well, if ever you meet Joe C, you might leave out the fact that you spell his name with a dollar sign and that you think Boren hired Stoops, or he might get the feeling you want him to leave. I sure did.

3. Me neither. And, thinking Senior Day is worthless because nothing is on the line is an insult to Cade Davis and the history of the Bedlam series.

4. Kudos for your success in the Kramer gif search. Your effort in pic searching should be commended. Your forethought in thread starting, not so much.

 

[trueou]

1. I do not wish Ca$tiglione would leave. I wish we'd quit holding him to some impossible standard where he never makes mistakes because he does. Hiring Jeff Capel was a mistake, and I hope he corrects it.

Do you mean exactly what you said? In my opinion, it is totally unfair to call a decision made based on information known at the time a mistake, just because it led to a bad result. That is asking decision makers to have an unerring crystal ball or to know everything like God.

If you want to say that Joe C's choice for head basketball did not work out and it is time for him to cut his losses and go forward with someone new that is a reasonable opinion. But to imply that he should have known at the time that we would be in this spot is just not realistic. As someone pointed out two years ago we were all thrilled that he had picked another winner. And it is possible that he did pick a winner who just had some incredibly bad luck. Or it could be he picked someone who cannot cut the job as head coach at OU. There are OU fans on both sides of that issue.

As I said earlier decisions like who will be OU's head coach are not as simple as some make them out to be. Once you choose a guy you automatically eliminate all possible other guys as coach. Once you fire a guy he will never be your head coach again. The future is unknowable. Keeping Jeff may work out for the best. Getting a new guy may work out for the best. But no one knows for sure. But I know that whatever decision is made, there will be a multitude of people jumping on message boards claiming to have known all along that the decision was going to lead to the success or failure which ultimately comes from that decision.

 

[Sooner04]

3. Me neither. And, thinking Senior Day is worthless because nothing is on the line is an insult to Cade Davis and the history of the Bedlam series.

In the grand scheme of conference finishes and postseason aspirations, what was on the line last Saturday? We won and finished 10th. I understand wanting to win the last time you take the floor in front of your home crowd, and there is NO bigger fan of Cade Davis than I, but in terms of advancing the program it was a meaningless win.

 

[colston15]

Unless Joe C is willing to open the pocket book the next coaching search will end a lot like the first one...

 

[Cleavon Little]

In the grand scheme of conference finishes and postseason aspirations, what was on the line last Saturday? We won and finished 10th. I understand wanting to win the last time you take the floor in front of your home crowd, and there is NO bigger fan of Cade Davis than I, but in terms of advancing the program it was a meaningless win.

You said nothing about grand schemes in the earlier post. You said nothing, which means not one thing, was on the line. My position was that pride in beating a bedlam rival was on the line. Pride in sending Cade out with a win was on the line. In every game something is on the line, or quit playing the game.

I'm assuming you are saying that because you can't win the conference and go to the postseason, that nothing is on the line on Senior Day. That is the exact same mentality that those burger boys last year had down the stretch, and you see where that got them. There is always something on the line; it's called pride in winning.

 

[coolm]

In my opinion, it is totally unfair to call a decision made based on information known at the time a mistake, just because it led to a bad result. That is asking decision makers to have an unerring crystal ball or to know everything like God.

Nope. That is making Joe C. accountable for his risky dealings and his penchant for trying to get off cheap and/or hit the grand salami.

If you are gonna swing for the bleachers then you accept the risk of whiffing on the deuce.

 

[NormanPride]

In the grand scheme of conference finishes and postseason aspirations, what was on the line last Saturday? We won and finished 10th. I understand wanting to win the last time you take the floor in front of your home crowd, and there is NO bigger fan of Cade Davis than I, but in terms of advancing the program it was a meaningless win.

You're a terrible fan and you know it. Not only do you wish for Joe C to leave, you probably want him to die in horrible ways. When you went to Senior Night (where's the proof of that? I bet you just stayed home and made Joe C voodoo dolls) you didn't cheer one bit for Poor Cade Davis. You should be ashamed. I bet you rooted for Kansas in '88, you cretin.

 

[SoMuchDramaInTheLNC]

You're a terrible fan and you know it. Not only do you wish for Joe C to leave, you probably want him to die in horrible ways. When you went to Senior Night (where's the proof of that? I bet you just stayed home and made Joe C voodoo dolls) you didn't cheer one bit for Poor Cade Davis. You should be ashamed. I bet you rooted for Kansas in '88, you cretin.

Are you the man behind the "Penguins" on SoonerFans? :ed