Good News for OU's 3 seed hopes

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1.) Utah, another team contending for one of those 3 seeds, just lost to Oregon. Not a bad loss on the road, but it won't do them any favors.

2.) Louisville, again, another team gunning for a 3 seed, just dismissed their starting PG Chris Jones. Won't help them down the stretch.

3.) OU is now a consensus 3 seed according to bracket matrix.com, which, if you're not familiar, is an amalgam of all the different bracketology picks out there. We're hurt a little by some doofus who currently has us as an 8 seed.

OU will have a chance to really make a statement for a 3 seed if they can go into Ames and come out victorious. We had the Cyclones down by 20 in Norman, so you can't tell me a win, even at Hilton, isn't possible if we play well.
 
Pitt & Oregon winning is also good news for OU as it should put Texas on the outside looking in. The Longhorns lose at Kansas and West Virginia and they will be in the NIT.
 
bocabull said:
Pitt & Oregon winning is also good news for OU as it should put Texas on the outside looking in. The Longhorns lose at Kansas and West Virginia and they will be in the NIT.
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Not sure how that's good news for OU unless you just enjoy Texas being miserable. A regular season sweep of Texas needs to look as impressive as possible.
 
Anything bad for Texas is good for OU. Always. Them sucking has nothing to do with how OU will perform. Their resume sucks. If they lose the next 2 road games they will be 6-10, with only 1 win against a top 50 team and an RPI in the mid 40s. That's NIT every time.
 
This is a conundrum. Would you rather have UT miss the NCAA tourney and cost us a seed (move from a 3 to a 4) or would you rather they make the NCAA and maybe keep us at a 3 seed?
 
OU needs to beat Kansas and make the finals of the Big XII tourney and they will be a 3 seed. Texas faceplanting will have no effect. Them beating us in the Big XII tournament is the only factor they could play.
 
I may be the only one but I'm in shock that OU is legitimately on that 3 line right now with only 3 games left to play. Funny how insulated you become at times.
 
geeoh said:
Not sure how that's good news for OU unless you just enjoy Texas being miserable. A regular season sweep of Texas needs to look as impressive as possible.
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Exactly. We want Texas to make the tournament. It makes our sweep look that much better. It wouldn't be good for them to fall on their face from this point forward. We need their RPI to stay better than 50.....so it remains quality wins for us. To think otherwise is just flat out short-sighted and ignorant.
 
That sounds like inbred SEC nonsense. lol

Texas failing is always good for OU. Beating Kansas and advancing in the Big XII tourney is what will boost our profile. Winning at Iowa State would boost our profile. Screw UT and that entire state of braindead imbeciles.
 
Something to keep in mind.....

This is kind of like the college football conundrum. Do you want the best teams playing for a NC or in the Playoff in terms of their resume, or do you want the best teams playing in terms of when all teams bring their A game, who are the best teams?

I still don't think this OU team's A game, at least, the A game they are capable of bringing with any kind of consistency, puts them in the top 12 teams of the country. I just don't. BUT.....when you look at it in terms of resume, it's becoming tougher and tougher to argue we don't belong there, which is stunning to me having watched us play every game this season.
 
bocabull said:
Pitt & Oregon winning is also good news for OU as it should put Texas on the outside looking in. The Longhorns lose at Kansas and West Virginia and they will be in the NIT.
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Yeah! That way if OU beats ISU in Ames Kansas will already have the Title wrapped up by the time they come to Norman!! That's what I'm talking about!...........
 
geeoh said:
3.) OU is now a consensus 3 seed according to bracket matrix.com, which, if you're not familiar, is an amalgam of all the different bracketology picks out there. We're hurt a little by some doofus who currently has us as an 8 seed.

OU will have a chance to really make a statement for a 3 seed if they can go into Ames and come out victorious. We had the Cyclones down by 20 in Norman, so you can't tell me a win, even at Hilton, isn't possible if we play well.
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I think that's actually an error. That guy has us as a 6 and an 8. I assume the 8 is supposed to be Oklahoma State.
 
It isn't about wanting Texas to do well or not to do well....I couldn't care less about Texas. However, my argument is totally self serving....if you're an OU fan that is. I want all the possible variables in our favor going into selection Sunday. Now can we take care of some of those variables on our own...of course. But the goal is to get the best seed possible and give us the best chance to advance in the tournament. And in order to do that, one of the factors that is taken into consideration on selection Sunday is quality wins. Thus I would like as many of our opponents that we have beaten....to stay in the top 50 or top 25 of the rpi. I don't care if their rival or not, it serves us well in the long run for teams that we've beaten/swept (osu, texas, etc.)....to have success down the stretch. It's really not that difficult to comprehend if you think about it for more than.....say 3 seconds.

And yes, if we win out, we can certainly overcome some of our perceived limitations in our resume (i.e. bad losses)....duh...no sh!t. But our probability to do that isn't good based on metrics and the difficulty of our schedule at the end of the season. Thus, we might as well hope for other factors to go in a positive direction that helps us down the stretch as well.
 
I see us being a #3 seed if we go into Selection Sunday with a single-digit loss total.

If we run the table and get to 25-8, we could get a #2 seed if things play out the right way. Conversely, if we finish 19-12, we're looking at a #6 seed.
 
WaymanFan said:
I see us being a #3 seed if we go into Selection Sunday with a single-digit loss total.

If we run the table and get to 25-8, we could get a #2 seed if things play out the right way. Conversely, if we finish 19-12, we're looking at a #6 seed.
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Exactly. Texas getting the finger is just icing on the cake. They have no effect on us. We already beat them twice. Hopefully they lose out. Same with lil brother who we also swept.
 
WTSooner said:
Something to keep in mind.....

This is kind of like the college football conundrum. Do you want the best teams playing for a NC or in the Playoff in terms of their resume, or do you want the best teams playing in terms of when all teams bring their A game, who are the best teams?

I still don't think this OU team's A game, at least, the A game they are capable of bringing with any kind of consistency, puts them in the top 12 teams of the country. I just don't. BUT.....when you look at it in terms of resume, it's becoming tougher and tougher to argue we don't belong there, which is stunning to me having watched us play every game this season.
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OU's A game is exceptional and easily top 12. The problem is OU's B game and OU has shown that B game on multiple occassions.
 
If we maintain our current trajectory (3 or 4 seed), below are some possibilities of teams we could be matched up with in the first round:
Iona
Stephen F. Austin or Sam Houston St.
Eastern Washington - they won at Indiana and barely lost at Washington when they were at full strength.
Murray State
William & Mary
UC Davis
Louisiana Tech

And yes, I know a lot can change between now and then.
 
Yeah, OU's A game is top 5 or 6 in the country. It's stifling defense combined with lights out 3 point shooting.


Problem is, that A game doesn't show up all the time, and even the B game is absent way too frequently.
 
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