If OU is a lock, and OSU wins...

[thebigabd]

If OU is a lock for the tournament, and OSU wins... how does OSU not make it to the NCAA Tournament?

Kansas
Kansas
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Oklahoma
Oklahoma
Tulsa
Florida State
Texas

How many other teams have 2 wins over a 1 seed, and Texas Tech and WVU are likely 2-4 seeds. If this forum is right and OU is a lock, they would have beaten OU twice as well.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

If OU is a lock for the tournament, and OSU wins... how does OSU not make it to the NCAA Tournament?

Kansas
Kansas
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Oklahoma
Oklahoma
Tulsa
Florida State
Texas

How many other teams have 2 wins over a 1 seed, and Texas Tech and WVU are likely 2-4 seeds. If this forum is right and OU is a lock, they would have beaten OU twice as well.

I agree. I think the only thing holding them back is they don't want to put 9 teams from a conference in. So who would you knock out?

 

[thebigabd]

I agree. I think the only thing holding them back is they don't want to put 9 teams from a conference in. So who would you knock out?

Good question... don't know.

If OSU would have finished off Tech and Arkansas they wouldn't be in this situation, and they blew big leads in those games. Total disasters. That would have given them two wins over KU, two wins over Tech, and added Arkansas (a tourney lock)...

But, back to the here and now... seems impossible to keep them out of the NCAA Tournament if they win tonight. Big if though...

 

[WichitaSooner]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-teams-stack-up-lets-look-at-the-quadrants/

 

[Maverick008]

If OU is a lock for the tournament, and OSU wins... how does OSU not make it to the NCAA Tournament?

Kansas
Kansas
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Oklahoma
Oklahoma
Tulsa
Florida State
Texas

How many other teams have 2 wins over a 1 seed, and Texas Tech and WVU are likely 2-4 seeds. If this forum is right and OU is a lock, they would have beaten OU twice as well.

Because these are the other W's on their schedule:

Pepperdine 6-26
Charlotte 6-23
Oral Roberts 11-21
Houston Babtist 6-25
Austin Peay 18-14
Mississippi Valley State 4-28
Tulsa 19-11
UT-Rio Grande Valley 15-16

Total- W-L: 85-164

Lunardi made the comment last night that based on their OOC schedule he sees them only with about 11 legitimate wins not 18....based off the non-con opponents listed above, that makes sense.

 

[thebigabd]

Ok so they beat the worst teams on their schedule, and beat the best teams on their schedule. I don't see a problem.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Ok so they beat the worst teams on their schedule, and beat the best teams on their schedule. I don't see a problem.

rpi is sitting at 87

 

[SoonerBounce13]

rpi is sitting at 87

kenpom is 57

 

[WichitaSooner]

kenpom is 57

Which is usually not close to good enough for an at large.

 

[stormspencer]

Because these are the other W's on their schedule:

Pepperdine 6-26
Charlotte 6-23
Oral Roberts 11-21
Houston Babtist 6-25
Austin Peay 18-14
Mississippi Valley State 4-28
Tulsa 19-11
UT-Rio Grande Valley 15-16

Total- W-L: 85-164

Lunardi made the comment last night that based on their OOC schedule he sees them only with about 11 legitimate wins not 18....based off the non-con opponents listed above, that makes sense.

This right here....fair or unfair, OSU is being somewhat punished for their weak OOC schedule despite how well they've played the last few weeks. This criteria is something the committee has been fairly consistent on over the years. If you don't play a tough non-conference schedule (and win a few) while being a borderline team in other measures/metrics, you have the potential to be left out. This is also the same concept that hurts teams like St. Mary's, BYU, and recently Middle Tennessee, but from a different perspective. In those teams' cases, if you play in a weak conference, then you had better schedule a few tough out of conference games (and win at least one) despite your gaudy record or you will be sweating it out as well come selection Sunday.

Yes, osu has beaten some good teams recently, but you can also make an argument that they got to the win total that they are at now because of semi-weak scheduling.

 

[perryj74]

Their non conference SOS is in the 300s and they went 10-3 in those games. If you're going to schedule like that you better be 13-0.

 

[oudna]

OU not a lock

 

[61sooner]

If OSU wins, and at halftime, tht looks like a lock, and they beat KU a 3rd time, OU stays home and Cowpokes go in.
How revolting would that be.

 

[thebigabd]

If OSU doesn't make the dance at this point it will be a total sham... Lots of at-large teams won't have the wins OSU has.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Can we decline the nit bid please

 

[stormspencer]

If OSU wins, and at halftime, tht looks like a lock, and they beat KU a 3rd time, OU stays home and Cowpokes go in.
How revolting would that be.

That's not how it works. OU hasn't played like a tournament team for 5+ weeks....however, that is offset by OU playing like a #1 seed for the first two months of the season. The result is likely a 10 seed.

 

[Sooner81]

Some on here are such haters. Fact is is all the smart guys who pick like 99% of the teams every year say OU is a lock and we ARE. OSU needs to beat KU and maybe the next day to get in and that is a fact because they played a sucky schedule and got swept by Baylor and K-State

 

[Matthew G]

Can we decline the nit bid please

We yeah, because we'll be in the NCAA tournament.

 

[Sooner81]

We yeah, because we'll be in the NCAA tournament.

This !!!

 

[Soonermarty]

I'd flip flop the teams. We aren't any good