Kansas begs Nebraska not to leave the Big 12

[BigTime]

The Texas/OU game was a non-conference game for decades. And it was (and still is) at a "neutral site with no passion." I swear, the youth these days just do not understand.

Oh yeah, OU/Texas is at a nuetral site isn't it? I heard that game was a pretty big deal and has been since the first fish flopped up on land and decided to stay there.

That must be an obvious exception to the rule though, Tony. Obviously. But then again, I'm too young to know anyway whether it is or isn't. :facepalm

 

[Cheno]

The Texas/OU game was a non-conference game for decades. And it was (and still is) at a "neutral site with no passion." I swear, the youth these days just do not understand.

Really...the Tom Penders/Billy Tubbs matchups were highly anticipated? And I could have swore Texas and OU played in Norman and Austin last year. Maybe I'm confused.

 

[Sawyer]

NORMAN — The two coaches Sooner fans care about most feel differently about the possibility of Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 for the Pac-10.

Football's Bob Stoops is excited.

Women's basketball's Sherri Coale is not.

Two things:

1. I read that as "Sherri Coale is hot"

2. Does she realize that there's a good possibility in a new conference (with a new network) that every game her team plays will be on TV? That's got to be nice for a women's basketball team.

 

[Tony]

Maybe I'm confused.

Maybe?

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Yeah cuz CU vs CSU really means something. Blah. Just like the Illinois/Mizzou game played in St. Louis has passion. No.
And what does Bernadette going to Europe have to do anything. Man, KU must be powerful if you think the possible break-up of the Big 12 wouldn't have happened if the female chancellor went to the Big 12 meetings and said "guys, nobody is leaving...case closed". LOL. I mean come 'on this is about money and football....not KU's chancellor. Silly statement. And what has Lew Perkins done wrong? He's elevated KU's athletic department hugely. Doubled the athletic budget, brought incredible facilities. Yes, I'll hate it if the Big 12 breaks up. Probably wouldn't be good for KU.
I won't like it as an OU fan either. Are you really looking forward to playing the Pac-10 teams? Are you looking at it as you'll have a better chance for success? I don't see the excitement as a fan. I can see Nebraska and Mizzou fans being excited about the Big 10. I get that. Maybe it's just me and my dislike for the Pac-10. I think the Pac-10 sucks...from travel to late night games to crappy Fox Sports.

It means that she thought that there was something more important to do than attend the most important conference meetings pretty much ever. Whatever, I'm indifferent.

 

[Cheno]

And if you think the Illinois games in St. Louis lack passion, you've obviously never been to one. It's a huge deal for Mizzou fans, especially in that part of the state.

Don't hold a candle to the two KU/Mizzou games though...on the local level and most certainly on the national level. If Mizzou goes to the Big 10 all of a sudden Mizzou/Illinois is a big, big deal and KU/Mizzou lessens if it even happens at all (and it wouldn't in football).
Agree?

 

[Cheno]

Maybe?

Yeah. I thought I was on a basketball board talking hoops yet Sooner fans keep bringing up football examples. I guess maybe I thought a few still had passion about hoops here. I guess really then OU and KU fans are no different. Both only care about one sport. Again, I thought we were talking hoops yet the only benefits and examples I keep hearing about here is for football.

 

[boksooner]

I must be going to the wrong OU/Texas game, because I see passion every year.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Really, more people care about Sherri Coale than Jeff Capel? What kind of stupid intro was that to an article under any circumstance? Strange.

 

[stoops4pres]

Possibly. But I keep hearing from some they don't mean much.
And it wouldn't be the same. And wouldn't include home and homes in the same year. And it wouldn't be a conference game. To suggest they would is silly. The hoops and football game would probably be in some neutral site with no passion. Like the Mizzou/Illinois hoop game. I look forward to Bedlam. I look forward to KU/Mizzou, KU/KSU...I look forward to Texas/OU....I look forward to those rivalries.

Yeah I agree, basketball would take a hit from a rivalry standpoint, which would be unfortunate.

I was just saying regardless whatever happens, the match-ups will still be there. And I'm apathetic whether or not the Bedlam series is diluted in football, its never been much of a rivalry in the first place.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Yeah. I thought I was on a basketball board talking hoops yet Sooner fans keep bringing up football examples. I guess maybe I thought a few still had passion about hoops here. I guess really then OU and KU fans are no different. Both only care about one sport. Again, I thought we were talking hoops yet the only benefits and examples I keep hearing about here is for football.

Now you understand why KU is not being invited to join any of these new conferences.

 

[seniorsooner]

Yeah. I thought I was on a basketball board talking hoops yet Sooner fans keep bringing up football examples. I guess maybe I thought a few still had passion about hoops here. I guess really then OU and KU fans are no different. Both only care about one sport. Again, I thought we were talking hoops yet the only benefits and examples I keep hearing about here is for football.

Cheno to be fair I think the reason you're seeing football discussed quite a bit here is quite frankly football is the only sport that matters in this whole mess. Football is the cash cow, and everything else may as well be a club sport.

 

[boksooner]

Yeah. I thought I was on a basketball board talking hoops yet Sooner fans keep bringing up football examples. I guess maybe I thought a few still had passion about hoops here. I guess really then OU and KU fans are no different. Both only care about one sport. Again, I thought we were talking hoops yet the only benefits and examples I keep hearing about here is for football.

I like how you start using thinly veiled insults when you realise that your arguments are falling on deaf ears.

 

[Tony]

Yeah. I thought I was on a basketball board talking hoops yet Sooner fans keep bringing up football examples. I guess maybe I thought a few still had passion about hoops here. I guess really then OU and KU fans are no different. Both only care about one sport. Again, I thought we were talking hoops yet the only benefits and examples I keep hearing about here is for football.

Possibly. But I keep hearing from some they don't mean much.
And it wouldn't be the same. And wouldn't include home and homes in the same year. And it wouldn't be a conference game. To suggest they would is silly. The hoops and football game would probably be in some neutral site with no passion. Like the Mizzou/Illinois hoop game. I look forward to Bedlam. I look forward to KU/Mizzou, KU/KSU...I look forward to Texas/OU....I look forward to those rivalries.

.

 

[Sawyer]

No, not really. Why would you think I would agree when I'd already clearly stated I didn't?

Any MU/ku game played after the dissolution of the Big 12 will still be a huge deal. The national attention the game receives will rise and fall with the level of play of each team in either sport, but it will still be among the biggest rivalry games every year and won't lessen in importance at all with Mizzou or kansas fans. It may be difficult to ever replicate the football game from 2007... but then again, chances are good the two teams never meet again with both ranked in the top 5 and the winner being one game away from a national title berth.

Believe it or not, there are MU fans, especially from St. Louis, who put as much weight on the Illinois game as they do the kansas game. MU's losing streak to Illinois was one of the biggest criticisms some fans had of the Quin era.

 

[seniorsooner]

Really, more people care about Sherri Coale than Jeff Capel? What kind of stupid intro was that to an article under any circumstance? Strange.

I posted the article on the OUInsider football board and this response is solid gold:

I'm sure the impact on women's basketball will be a real key in this

 

[Tony]

I like how you start using thinly veiled insults when you realise that your arguments are falling on deaf ears.

They aren't that thinly veiled.

 

[Sawyer]

At least kansas will get to continue playing rivalry games in the octagon of doom.

 

[BigTime]

Really, more people care about Sherri Coale than Jeff Capel? What kind of stupid intro was that to an article under any circumstance? Strange.

I don't think that is the case. Though, you have to think that with all the bad pub over the last 6 months that Coach Capel's image among the casual Sooner fan has taken a hit.

There are some folks that like to try and force the issue that women's basketball is somehow the second most popular sport among OU fans. All you need to do is look at the attendance (butts in the seats and tickets sold) and you will find your answer (and that is with the tickets prices for the women's games being dirt cheap).

The real order of popularity goes something like this:

1. Football
2. Spring practice/spring game
3. Men's hoops
4. Women's hoops

I give Coach Coale a lot of credit though. She has certainly made OU one of the top women's basketball fanbases in the country. And she did it by starting from ground zero.

My fear is that the Thunder will slide in there at #3 for the casual OU fan and bump both the college basketball teams down. It may have already happened.

 

[stoops4pres]

Cheno to be fair I think the reason you're seeing football discussed quite a bit here is quite frankly football is the only sport that matters in this whole mess.

Exactly. The reason football is perpetually mentioned, is because all this expansion talk revolves mainly around football.