Lon is a below average in game coach.

And OU has won five straight from texas. Do you think OU has a better program/better talent than texas?

Sometimes one team just has the other team's number for a span of time. It happens in every sport.

That streak will come to an end in Austin because rick Barnes is no longer there. While kruger is a below average in game coach, Barnes is just plain bad.

And ftr, I do believe Ou has a better program than everyone besides ku in this conference.
 
And ftr, I do believe Ou has a better program than everyone besides ku in this conference.

Interesting. Because definitely not based on incoming talent the last 5 years.

Kruger has been a miracle worker.
 
Interesting. Because definitely not based on incoming talent the last 5 years.

Kruger has been a miracle worker.

ou has a substantial lead in every series against opposing big 12 teams except ku. This program was doing big things long before Lon got here.

Who is responsible for bringing in talent the past 5 years? (For the record I think Lon has done a good job with recruiting, and it appears to be getting better.)

He has done a good job rebuilding the program but you could make the argument that the previous 3 coaches accomplished at least the same things thus far with only capel proving he couldn't consistently sustain it. If lon is a miracle worker then billy tubbs is Jesus Christ himself.

In 30 years of coaching, Lon has 1 shared conference title, 2 mountain west tournament championships and 1 final four. He is a very solid coach but his resume to date is far from elite and IMO his in game coaching leaves a lot to be desired.

Having said all that, I'm glad he's the coach and I hope he sticks around for a long time. I want to believe he will reach new heights with Ou.
 
Having said all that, I'm glad he's the coach and I hope he sticks around for a long time. I want to believe he will reach new heights with Ou.


This post is all over the place. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove except that you are very frustrated with the loss last night. Understandable but why rip a coach you feel this way about? Most coaches in America save for a handful have weaknesses. Lon really has none. I will admit in game coaching isn't his strength (program building and player development are off the charts) but I don't consider it a weakness at all. He's actually a far better recruiter than I thought he would be and, except for Sampson, is as good a game coach as we've had in quite awhile.


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Are there really people arguing about this? Maybe "average" isn't the best term, but it's certainly not a strength, and that's been known since before he came to OU. He is a program builder, an improving recruiter, and a great preparer. But during the games, his coaching leaves a lot to be desired.
 
Tubby is a great bball coach but not much of a recruiter though. Lon just has no freaking bench and our guys are freaking dead ass tired.
Lattin is such an offensive liability it's comical. You don't shoot in the 30s an win many games either.

Tubby is a good recruit. He's not a Calipari recruiter but who is. He brought several good players to Minnesota. Being at Texas Tech, he's not going to get national recruits..he will recruit similar to how Lon has been recruiting here.
 
he's starting a former walk-on (still might be) that was playing in the Frat league...who honestly beat out Lattin and was (seemed) fairly even with Spang...5 pts/4 rb to Spang 5 pts/9 rb
 
"In game" coaching might be one of the most overrated aspects in basketball.
 
Oh lawd, Did we get a**es handed to us last night yes, but I dont think this equates to Kruger to being a bad ingame coach, that is possibly the silliest thing I have ever seen
 
"In game" coaching might be one of the most overrated aspects in basketball.


Agree to a certain extent. Still an important aspect but is certainly overrated. Coaches coach, players must execute. What we see is what players execute on the floor. In game coaching is more difficult to judge.


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Oh lawd, Did we get a**es handed to us last night yes, but I dont think this equates to Kruger to being a bad ingame coach, that is possibly the silliest thing I have ever seen

I might have missed it, but I didn't see anybody call him a BAD in game coach. Just an average one.
 
He gets consistently out coached by the Bruce webers, tubbys of the world.

He is an amazing team builder and developer but is below average at in game coaching.

I think Kruger is a great coach. With that being said, he does make some questionable decisions from time to time.
 
I think Kruger is a great coach. With that being said, he does make some questionable decisions from time to time.

no coach makes the right calls 100% of the time… its called sports… ever play hoops?? didn't think so. and if you did? why are you knocking on the team all the time.

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Being average is the same as Bad when you are an OU fan, I am no settler fact is we are not good enough inside and the kids look tired to me I hope they pull out of it and they very well may, there are a ton of teams that can win in all. Below average is Poor.
 
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kruger stated on his radio show that pretty much we aren't going to try anything different. WE are who we are and there is no point in changing what we do. We are not great at rebounding or defense or inside so why try.

Pretty amazing to hear out of a head coach
 
LK's point was there is not a low post scorer on waivers you can sign and play tomorrow at Morgantown.

The players are what they are, they either played better than themselves the first 20 games or worse than themselves the past five.

No one really knows right now.
 
THe thing is, I really don't believe it is what we are doing that is different. It is what opponents are doing. If we can't adjust we are doomed
 
THe thing is, I really don't believe it is what we are doing that is different. It is what opponents are doing. If we can't adjust we are doomed

There is no doubt that teams are guarding OU differently. But I still see a lot of wide open looks that guys are missing.

Scoring the ball covers up many things a team does poorly. OU didn't score the last 2:30 against Tech, well of course that magnifies the defensive rebounding and turnovers, etc. when you don't score.

OU's strength is their ability to shoot. WV can shoot 35 percent and win because they force turnovers and play great halfcourt defense. That's not OU's identity.
 
THe thing is, I really don't believe it is what we are doing that is different. It is what opponents are doing. If we can't adjust we are doomed

I've seen OU opponents emphasize on taking away the 3-ball since 2014.

We had about 20 open looks vs Tech and made 4 of them.
 
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