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MJSooner said:
This.

Guys that aren’t NBA first rounders, even if drafted in the second round, aren’t guaranteed contracts. The odds are overwhelmingly against them to be on a roster and even harder to be on one in 3 years. Their options in most cases are the G League or overseas, and at that talent level the will be making less than $100K and as low as $35K. Guys like Kur could have at least made some money after being at OU and setting up his NLI for a couple of years and at least making some money while on campus while working on improving his draft status with the perks of being on full scholarship.

I also believe a school like OU who has a strong brand but refused to use questionable tactics in the old world because at least now we have a seat at the table. The big schools or slimy schools will still be able to pay more but at least we can show they can monetize themselves at OU and gives us a chance to sell the program and partnership.

IMO it changes a lot on how we view and think of college athletes but won’t change the dynamics, competition, or power structure very much for the top schools or now think of as brands.

Who it could hurt severely though are the KStates, ISU, Tech, and others, all who do not have a strong brand, history, major media presence, or population center to win in the NLI world.
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I wouldn’t lump ISU in that category at all. Most of the endorsements that the majority of players get will be local, and that means players on teams with a rabid fan base will likely do just fine. Iowa State fans support their teams win, lose, or draw. I’m sure plenty of local businesses will be more than happy to align themselves with players.

But bigger picture, I don’t think anyone knows how this stuff will play out. My gut instinct is that it isn’t going to be as earth shattering as some people seem to think. It’ll be interesting to see what happens, though.
 
Here's a list from Darren Rovelle of athletes likely to bank initially off NIL

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf...r&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=darrenrovell

What people don't get is instagram and tiktok followings are huge in this thing for outreach. It's not necessarily just talent.

Also he put up tweets with OU's rules on NIL

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1410712318779047937?s=20

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1410714159042412546?s=20

Basically it's what you would think. Although lol @ Assault weapons. All weapons are potentially AWs.

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MJSooner said:
This.



Guys that aren’t NBA first rounders, even if drafted in the second round, aren’t guaranteed contracts. The odds are overwhelmingly against them to be on a roster and even harder to be on one in 3 years. Their options in most cases are the G League or overseas, and at that talent level the will be making less than $100K and as low as $35K. Guys like Kur could have at least made some money after being at OU and setting up his NLI for a couple of years and at least making some money while on campus while working on improving his draft status with the perks of being on full scholarship.



I also believe a school like OU who has a strong brand but refused to use questionable tactics in the old world because at least now we have a seat at the table. The big schools or slimy schools will still be able to pay more but at least we can show they can monetize themselves at OU and gives us a chance to sell the program and partnership.



IMO it changes a lot on how we view and think of college athletes but won’t change the dynamics, competition, or power structure very much for the top schools or now think of as brands.



Who it could hurt severely though are the KStates, ISU, Tech, and others, all who do not have a strong brand, history, major media presence, or population center to win in the NLI world.
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A guy like Austin Reaves could maybe make 6 figures next year at OU instead of going pro and maybe missing a roster and maybe getting 5 figures in the G league or maybe more overseas if he's lucky.
 
allday92 said:
Overall, it should help bring parity in college sports. Why be one of the 4-5 faces at Duke, Kentucky, Villanova OR go be the one face at Oklahoma basketball?
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I think the opposite. The blue bloods have so much money that can be thrown at recruits legally now, that the little guys don't have much of a shot at top talent
 
NickZepp said:
A guy like Austin Reaves could maybe make 6 figures next year at OU instead of going pro and maybe missing a roster and maybe getting 5 figures in the G league or maybe more overseas if he's lucky.
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I just don’t see how AR would make 6 figures at OU next year. He’d make mid 6 figures if he went overseas.

If you’re NBA or borderline you’ll make more $$ that way 98% of the time.
 
It's funny that out of the gate some of the biggest beneficiaries of the NIL are attractive female athletes. I just hadn't thought of that angle. Still think this NIL stuff is going to be a mess.
 
WTSooner said:
It's funny that out of the gate some of the biggest beneficiaries of the NIL are attractive female athletes. I just hadn't thought of that angle. Still think this NIL stuff is going to be a mess.
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I didn’t think of that either, and it’s so obvious. I also think kids that stay in-state can make more, especially in lower populated states.
 
BCSooners said:
I didn’t think of that either, and it’s so obvious. I also think kids that stay in-state can make more, especially in lower populated states.
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Reading an article tracking players' social media stats was cringe af.. what a strange world
 
If you are a top 20 basketball player where would your endorsements be greater? Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, etc. or OU. OU's fan base in basketball is nothing compared to those schools. If that would not mean something to you it certainly would mean something to your parents. And the schools who cheat and/or take of advantage of loopholes will have new ways to bring in the top players.

In my opinion the politicians have just professionalized college sports and though with good intentions have done nothing for the average player.

Every Athletic Director and College President will be faced with tough decisions on how to play this. Trying to compete at the higher levels may prove to be too much a rat race.
 
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SoonerinNC said:
If you are a top 20 basketball player where would your endorsements be greater? Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, etc. or OU. If that would not mean something to you it certainly would mean something to your parents. And the schools who cheat and/or take of advantage of loopholes will have new ways to bring in the top players.

In my opinion the politicians have just professionalized college sports and though with good intentions have done nothing for the average player.

Every Athletic Director and College President will be faced with tough decisions on how to play this. Trying to compete at the higher levels may prove to be too much a rat race.
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I could see some schools getting big benefactors paying for certain salaries every year. Miami is already seeing that with a half a million dollars going to the players there. But smaller schools won't be able to do that. Lesser programs that don't have any real following for a long term will probably end up falling by the wayside. But maybe I'm wrong and there is enough money to go around, but I doubt it. Not the way things have been for a long time.
 
NCAA really screwed this up. Could’ve had a system in place at least a decade ago & they would’ve had some control. Seems like it’s completely out of their hands now.
 
BCSooners said:
NCAA really screwed this up. Could’ve had a system in place at least a decade ago & they would’ve had some control. Seems like it’s completely out of their hands now.
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Which is probably for the better anyway. NCAA has been pretty incompetent with control over things.

Look at the Adidas crap that had federal crimes go on and we are probably gonna see nothing done to any real major programs like Kansas and UNC that were involved. They may drop the punishment they gave to OSU now.
 
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NickZepp said:
Which is probably for the better anyway. NCAA has been pretty incompetent with control over things.

Look at the Adidas crap that had federal crimes go on and we are probably gonna see nothing done to any real major programs like Kansas and UNC that were involved. They may drop the punishment they gave to OSU now.
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Yep if they disband it’ll be for the good.
 
We see how crazy things are with football and I think it's very easy to make the leap to hoops. Agents, AAU and the newest https://time.com/6114853/overtime-elite-league-salary/, all can turn upside down the old normal. I also think we should expect many schools to coordinate with providers of nil deals. I expect this scenario, School SEC1 hires company Statues-R-us to provide a statue for $5 million and then that company spends over $4 million for NIL deals. Some of that money is targeting specific players of SEC1 rivals and league contenders, not just best players available.


I expect chaos until a functional governing body exists and even then there is no going back. The 1st thing to do is create time windows for the portal and schedule signing days that fit the new abnormal.
 
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I say let the kids make all the $$ they can/want. I can't blame any of them for doing so.
 
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