<<<OU v. OSU All-Time (a comparison)>>>

[Dignon003]

Not to mention that since about 1929 or so the series is pretty much even.

 

[BigTime]

Not to mention that since about 1929 or so the series is pretty much even.

No its not. OU still leads....but nice try.

I could say, not to mention, if you look since the modern era of basketball, OU is dominating in all categories. But you wouldn't like that much.

 

[Dignon003]

OU has the lead they do because they won a whole lot of games in the very early years of the series. ie. 25 of the first 27.

OU has a 35 game lead in the series. by 1929 OU had won 35 games in the series. Thus since then it's been even.

http://www.okstate.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/okst/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/09mediaguide-section4

Barry Trammel got an email about this very subject and poses his opinion. Good read.

http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/06/27/bedlam-basketball-debate/

 

[WaymanFan]

My argument favoring OU by a slight margin has to do with the fact that OSU has only finished ahead of OU one time in 13 Big XII seasons. I don't put much stock in the head-to-head. If I did, then I would have to say Texas has a better football tradition than OU because of the head-to-head series. I'm not about to do that, so I'll at least stay consistent.

 

[DenverSooner]

Nice - BigTime deserves huge recognition for putting this together and helping to dismiss the greatest myth in Oklahoma Sports and that myth is OSU basketball. The simple fact is OU has more history and is the better program.

This is my favorite part:

Since the inception of the Big 12 conference, OSU has only finished ahead of OU in the conferences win/loss record one (1) time:
96-97 OU 9-7 OSU 7-9
97-98 OU 11-5 OSU 11-5
98-99 OU 11-5 OSU 10-6
99-00 OU 12-4 OSU 12-4
00-01 OU 12-4 OSU 10-6
01-02 OU 13-3 OSU 10-6
02-03 OU 12-4 OSU 10-6
03-04 OU 8-8 OSU 14-2
04-05 OU 12-4 OSU 11-5
05-06 OU 11-5 OSU 6-10
06-07 OU 6-10 OSU 6-10
07-08 OU 9-7 OSU 7-9
08-09 OU 13-3 OSU 9-7

 

[DenverSooner]

OU has the lead they do because they won a whole lot of games in the very early years of the series. ie. 25 of the first 27.

OU has a 35 game lead in the series. by 1929 OU had won 35 games in the series. Thus since then it's been even.

http://www.okstate.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/okst/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/09mediaguide-section4

Barry Trammel got an email about this very subject and poses his opinion. Good read.

http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/06/27/bedlam-basketball-debate/

You just have to love the logic of an OSU garduate (or lack of logic). Lets pick a random date, chop off 35 OU wins and call it a tie. That is truly pathetic.

Here is the history: http://soonerstats.com/basketball/men/series/details.cfm?oppid=2

You moronic aggies should have some fun with that site. For example:

1950 - present OU 72 to OSU 59 or a 55% winning percentage

1960 - present 65-46 or a 59% winning percentage for OU

1970-present 56-32 or 64% winning percentage for OU

1980-present 37-28 or 59% winning percentage for OU

1990- present 22-21 or a 51% winning percentage for OU

2000- present 12-9 or a 57% winning percentage for OU.

OU has won 42% of the games in Stoolwater and a massive 75% in Norman. Is that about even your worthless Aggies.

Post Iba OU has a 64% winning percentage.

What that shows you is that since 1950 OSU had one respectable decade where the series was 10-11. One decade of essentially even basketball in 60 years and you worthless aggies have the nerve to come onto an OU board and suggest it has been essentially even. What a freaking joke.

It is insulting to suggest OSU is about the same or better than OU. Go to Soonerstats and run the series with all the old Big 8 teams any you will find that only CU and ISU have worse records against OU than OSU. Missouri, KSU, obviosly Kansas and NEBRASKA (NEBRASKA!) have better records against OU and have been more of a challenge. OSU basketball is a myth.

 

[HoHum]

:clap :ford

 

[BigTime]

:clap :ford

You are starting to come around!

 

[HoHum]

You are starting to come around!

My ford head isn't popping up!!! I was applauding his Ford like outburst!

 

[BigTime]

My ford head isn't popping up!!! I was applauding his Ford like outburst!

If you call Obi an effing idiot 3 times, then it will appear. Works like a charm.

 

[seniorsooner]

It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!! :OUbball-logo::OUbball-logo:

 

[skyvue]

Denver's heart is in the right place, but he doesn't quite have all of his ducks in a row.

oswho's acutally had the better record in three decades since 1950. But they've only had a better record in one other decade ever.

Here's OU's record against oswho by decade:

1908-1920: 23-2
1921-1930: 14-5
1931-1940: 11-10
1941-1950: 5-16
1951-1960: 8-12
1961-1970: 9-15
1971-1980: 19-5
1981-1990: 16-5
1991-2000: 9-13
2001-present: 11-8

So OU has a winning record against oswho in six of 10 decades to date (7 of 11 if you count the 1900s separately). Three of oswho's four winning decades against OU came under a single coach, Henry Iba.

Since 1929, OU actually trails in the series, 80-85, but to further prove my pdoint that the Iba era was oswho's only true heyday in the Bedlam series, from 1908-1940, OU led the series, 48-17, and since 1971, OU leads the series 55-31.

Without Iba's tenure, it's a freaking runaway.

oswho cut into OU's lead by 23 games or so under Iba, but OU's gained those back since his departure.

So please, Dignon, don't spread this notion that OU's lead was built only in the third of the century. That's a flat lie.

To most observers, the modern era in football began during or just after the war years. Similarly, most observers consider them modern era in hoops to have begun in the seventies or, some say, the eighties.

Either way, OU's got a healthy lead over oswho in the modern era. And they built a huge lead in the "ancient" era. The only lengthy span in which they didn't dominate oswho was the Iba era.

The truth is, oswho's nearly a one-trick pony in hoops. Without Iba, they'd be not even an afterthought. It's as if OU had had only Bud and, say, Chuck Fairbanks in football, with no other successful coaches.

 

[w0lfe]

About the athletic department thing, there was an article by Sports Illustrated a few years back stating that OU is the number 3 athletics program in all college sports.

 

[w0lfe]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_online/news/2002/10/01/1_10/

Here was that link by the way, a little old, but not too bad. We have since added to these accomplishments since than also

OSU comes in at number 60, but hey they have an ice hockey club!! hahaha

 

[DenverSooner]

Denver's heart is in the right place, but he doesn't quite have all of his ducks in a row.

oswho's acutally had the better record in three decades since 1950. But they've only had a better record in one other decade ever.

Here's OU's record against oswho by decade:

1908-1920: 23-2
1921-1930: 14-5
1931-1940: 11-10
1941-1950: 5-16
1951-1960: 8-12
1961-1970: 9-15
1971-1980: 19-5
1981-1990: 16-5
1991-2000: 9-13
2001-present: 11-8

So OU has a winning record against oswho in six of 10 decades to date (7 of 11 if you count the 1900s separately). Three of oswho's four winning decades against OU came under a single coach, Henry Iba.

Since 1929, OU actually trails in the series, 80-85, but to further prove my pdoint that the Iba era was oswho's only true heyday in the Bedlam series, from 1908-1940, OU led the series, 48-17, and since 1971, OU leads the series 55-31.

Without Iba's tenure, it's a freaking runaway.

oswho cut into OU's lead by 23 games or so under Iba, but OU's gained those back since his departure.

So please, Dignon, don't spread this notion that OU's lead was built only in the third of the century. That's a flat lie.

To most observers, the modern era in football began during or just after the war years. Similarly, most observers consider them modern era in hoops to have begun in the seventies or, some say, the eighties.

Either way, OU's got a healthy lead over oswho in the modern era. And they built a huge lead in the "ancient" era. The only lengthy span in which they didn't dominate oswho was the Iba era.

The truth is, oswho's nearly a one-trick pony in hoops. Without Iba, they'd be not even an afterthought. It's as if OU had had only Bud and, say, Chuck Fairbanks in football, with no other successful coaches.

I am embarrassed to admit you are correct. I did not actually look at the decades and just ran searches from 1950 forward, etc. Regardless, OSU is a freaking joke and this notion that OSU is the better school is laughable. Only once since Big XII play has OSU finished higher than OU.